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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 20, 2014 14:50:09 GMT
So hard to be objective when you've just seen 2 valuable points thrown down the toilet... but honestly I think Leslie did the job today, unlucky breaks are going against us - we just need to kill off the unforced errors, close teams out a bit more ruthlessly and we really aren't far off. But if we end up in a relegation scrap, these are the kind of lost points that will be to blame 7 from me * if you were there please
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Post by SCFC92 on Sept 20, 2014 14:52:41 GMT
7 for me, 8 if I read he absolutely bollocked Sidwell for that challenge..
Good point
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 20, 2014 14:54:52 GMT
6. Wrong substitutions once again IMO
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2014 14:59:19 GMT
6. Wrong substitutions once again IMO What substitutions should he have made? It is worth spending 40 quid plus and going to these games just so you don't have to read some of the shit spouted on here in the immediate aftermath of the game. I'll give Hughes a 9 and deduct a point for the fact that he couldn't get himself on to the pitch to finish just 1 of the countless chances that we created on the day. He should hang his head in shame that his players aren't as good a player as he was. Wank manager! We need a new manager and new team!
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 20, 2014 14:59:52 GMT
So hard to be objective when you've just seen 2 valuable points thrown down the toilet... but honestly I think Leslie did the job today, unlucky breaks are going against us - we just need to kill off the unforced errors, close teams out a bit more ruthlessly and we really aren't far off. But if we end up in a relegation scrap, these are the kind of lost points that will be to blame 7 from me * if you were there please Is it really necessary to have been at the match to participate in these threads? Isn't watching on telly enough to make an informed assessment? Just wondering like. EDIT: my apologies, now realise I've been reading that *if you were there* line wrong all along.
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 20, 2014 15:02:42 GMT
6. Wrong substitutions once again IMO What substitutions should he have made? It is worth spending 40 quid plus and going to these games just so you don't have to read some of the shit spouted on here in the immediate aftermath of the game. I'll give Hughes a 9 and deduct a point for the fact that he couldn't get himself on to the pitch to finish just 1 of the countless chances that we created on the day. He should hang his head in shame that his players aren't as good a player as he was. Wank manager! We need a new manager and new team! what substitutions should he have made ? Let me tell you - Adams off earlier as he was clearly struggling and out of shape for this level and I'd out in assaidi instead if him to run at Armand traore (easily one if the worst full backs in the prem) who had been on a yellow card for ages . That's what
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Post by chrispk76 on Sept 20, 2014 15:04:27 GMT
3 on 2 , 3 on 1 and no end product ! the manager can't control that
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 20, 2014 15:05:31 GMT
A decent starting 11 - especially considering it was an away game. I'd still have preferred Diouf playing with or behind Crouch rather than out wide - which doesn't really suit him - probably at the expense of Adam who I would keep as an impact sub especially in away games. I'd probably have started Arnie on the left and Moses on the right.
I don't think he had any choice with the Moses sub and Arnie was arguably the better choice to bring on compared to Assaidi. Sidwell was an obvious sub for Adam but I might have taken the chance to move Diouf inside and bring Assaidi on. But I hope Hughes makes it clear to Sidwell that was a stupid foul to give away at that point in the game and on that part of the pitch.
7 from me
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2014 15:06:21 GMT
What substitutions should he have made? It is worth spending 40 quid plus and going to these games just so you don't have to read some of the shit spouted on here in the immediate aftermath of the game. I'll give Hughes a 9 and deduct a point for the fact that he couldn't get himself on to the pitch to finish just 1 of the countless chances that we created on the day. He should hang his head in shame that his players aren't as good a player as he was. Wank manager! We need a new manager and new team! what substitutions should he have made ? Let me tell you - Adams off earlier as he was clearly struggling and out of shape for this level and I'd out in assaidi instead if him to run at Armand traore (easily one if the worst full backs in the prem) who had been on a yellow card for ages . That's what A central midfield player for a winger in a game we were dominating? Step forward Mr Mourinho. You are clearly the best manager the Premier League has never had. Get your application in at the Fail. They could do with your genius.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 20, 2014 15:07:01 GMT
So hard to be objective when you've just seen 2 valuable points thrown down the toilet... but honestly I think Leslie did the job today, unlucky breaks are going against us - we just need to kill off the unforced errors, close teams out a bit more ruthlessly and we really aren't far off. But if we end up in a relegation scrap, these are the kind of lost points that will be to blame 7 from me * if you were there please Is it really necessary to have been at the match to participate in these threads? Isn't watching on telly enough to make an informed assessment? Just wondering like. Sal hasn't said you have to be there to contribute. Like she says every week - you put a * in your post if you were there! This thread has been running after virtually every game for over 3 years - and you still haven't worked it out?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 15:07:45 GMT
So hard to be objective when you've just seen 2 valuable points thrown down the toilet... but honestly I think Leslie did the job today, unlucky breaks are going against us - we just need to kill off the unforced errors, close teams out a bit more ruthlessly and we really aren't far off. But if we end up in a relegation scrap, these are the kind of lost points that will be to blame 7 from me * if you were there please Is it really necessary to have been at the match to participate in these threads? Isn't watching on telly enough to make an informed assessment? Just wondering like. The.. * if you were there please Relates to, if you were there then you put * after your rating, whereas if you weren't then you don't put a * after your rating. It doesn't mean, only share your opinion if you were there. Unless that's not what you're getting at in which case this is a wasted post.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Sept 20, 2014 15:09:42 GMT
5
For the most woeful substitution ever. Fucking sidwell ffs
The worse signing for Stoke in many a year.
It wasn't broken and then he broke it.
His bench tactics need some serious work.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 20, 2014 15:10:37 GMT
Is it really necessary to have been at the match to participate in these threads? Isn't watching on telly enough to make an informed assessment? Just wondering like. The.. * if you were there please Relates to, if you were there then you put * after your rating, whereas if you weren't then you don't put a * after your rating. It doesn't mean, only share your opinion if you were there. Unless that's not what you're getting at in which case this is a wasted post. I've just posted the same as you. On reflection, I think he was trying to be funny. I hope so - otherwise he is a few sandwiches short of a picnic!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2014 15:10:38 GMT
7.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 20, 2014 15:12:49 GMT
Is it really necessary to have been at the match to participate in these threads? Isn't watching on telly enough to make an informed assessment? Just wondering like. Sal hasn't said you have to be there to contribute. Like she says every week - you put a * in your post if you were there! This thread has been running after virtually every game for over 3 years - and you still haven't worked it out? Oh I see! I honestly have just always ignored it because of that line.
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 20, 2014 15:13:17 GMT
8 for me. Sent out a team capable of scoring and winning. Assume Moses substitution was because still not fully fit after long lay off. Would have preferred other than Wilson at CB, but he did a respectable job. Not Hughes fault we let in yet another daft goal. Defence appears sound in principle but is still leaking daft goals. Would get Nzonzi having shooting practice all week, great defender and passed but should have buried the chance or at the very least forced a save. Still unbeaten away but no points at home. An odd season start.
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Post by britsabroad on Sept 20, 2014 15:21:11 GMT
5. He's showing his shortcomings as a manager this season and today was no different.
All he had to do was watch any of QPR's previous thrashings to see how to exploit their weaknesses. Long balls to Crouch is not the answer.
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Post by steve66 on Sept 20, 2014 16:31:15 GMT
6 for me, I am not in favour of making changes when the 11 on the pitch are playing well and looking comfortable, didn't look to me that either Victor or Charlie were struggling, both had been high up the pitch and keeping their defence on their toes moments before being taken off.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 20, 2014 16:33:34 GMT
6 for me, I am not in favour of making changes when the 11 on the pitch are playing well and looking comfortable, didn't look to me that either Victor or Charlie were struggling, both had been high up the pitch and keeping their defence on their toes moments before being taken off. Moses had cramp - but I guess Hughes was a bit closer to the action than you so we'll let you off. On the other hand it has been mentioned on the radio, the TV and on here about 20 times so you are very lucky to get let off.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:35:21 GMT
7.
Cant understand the sub criticism. Moses could hardly walk and with good reason given his performance.
Starting line up was good and overall performance was much better.
Very frustrated at the manner of dropping two points but hard to see how that can be attributed to the manager directly? First goal was a glaring error from the skipper who would normally deal with that and the second was a dreadful mistake from a vastly experienced professional.
As a coach you cannot legislate for it and this is rate the manager and not the result.
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Post by 2004 on Sept 20, 2014 16:35:39 GMT
7
Really annoyed we didn't come away with the 3 points but we were ok.
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Post by borat on Sept 20, 2014 16:43:22 GMT
5 A game we should have won, these are going down this season. His subs are awful too.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 20, 2014 16:47:20 GMT
5 For the most woeful substitution ever. Fucking sidwell ffs The worse signing for Stoke in many a year. Wasn't that Hughes, no Odemwingie, no Diouf.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:55:05 GMT
8 for me. Sent out a team capable of scoring and winning. Assume Moses substitution was because still not fully fit after long lay off. Would have preferred other than Wilson at CB, but he did a respectable job. Not Hughes fault we let in yet another daft goal. Defence appears sound in principle but is still leaking daft goals. Would get Nzonzi having shooting practice all week, great defender and passed but should have buried the chance or at the very least forced a save. Still unbeaten away but no points at home. An odd season start. I'm with Joe on this 8 for me, it's not LMH's fault some of the players fluffed the chances on another day it could have been 6.
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on Sept 20, 2014 17:01:14 GMT
7. the right starting lineup, not necessarily the right subs. I don't think Arnie brought much to the game. Unless he was just resting Moses which is possible. Maybe Assaidi should have been on the bench instead. a lot more of an attacking threat today just need to work on actually knocking them in. I think with work we'll have a very good side like last season.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Sept 20, 2014 17:19:42 GMT
*4 He is the manager so that is where the buck stops
QPR were really really poor today with key players missing and yet we come away gain with the same old story of should have scored more and defensive errors
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 20, 2014 17:21:49 GMT
7. the right starting lineup, not necessarily the right subs. I don't think Arnie brought much to the game. Unless he was just resting Moses which is possible. Maybe Assaidi should have been on the bench instead. a lot more of an attacking threat today just need to work on actually knocking them in. I think with work we'll have a very good side like last season. Moses had cramp. Hughes was right to replace him - its all to easy to pull a calf muscle if you play on with cramp. EDIT: Assaidi was on the bench.
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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 20, 2014 18:10:21 GMT
So hard to be objective when you've just seen 2 valuable points thrown down the toilet... but honestly I think Leslie did the job today, unlucky breaks are going against us - we just need to kill off the unforced errors, close teams out a bit more ruthlessly and we really aren't far off. But if we end up in a relegation scrap, these are the kind of lost points that will be to blame 7 from me * if you were there please Is it really necessary to have been at the match to participate in these threads? Isn't watching on telly enough to make an informed assessment? Just wondering like. EDIT: my apologies, now realise I've been reading that *if you were there* line wrong all along. Apologies here too, I need to remember to say 'add' It dates back years, there was a loon on the old board called Bring Back Muggleton (hiya BBM if you're reading this) who spemt his life claiming to have been at the match when he obviously hadn't (also he claimed to be black when he wasn't) - so when I took this thread over when Mystical Descent semi-retired, I came up with the * idea, because you do see a different game sometimes, other times you get it better ona stream anyway...
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Post by kidcrewbob on Sept 20, 2014 18:16:17 GMT
5 - more poor decisions and seemingly unable to motivate from the sidelines
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Post by robstokie on Sept 20, 2014 18:16:56 GMT
6*
Going forward, we ripped them apart at times, for the want of finishing we could have easily scored 4-5 today. However, he should have bought Assaidi on for Adam and moved Diouf in behind Crouchy and not sat so deep so as to invite pressure onto ourselves. If we had done that, I reckon we could have easily nicked a third on the break late on when they were chucking the kitchen sink at us. Also, we have lost that defensive discipline that used to run through us like a stick of rock.
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