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Post by boothenboy75 on Sept 15, 2014 19:49:37 GMT
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Post by Plave on Sept 15, 2014 21:51:31 GMT
If I wasn't a Stoke supporter I wouldn't want to see most of our games either.
The big four or five have most f the supporters and are more interesting to the neutrals, even as we improved under MH last year our goal scoring was still low.
I find it a strange think to get wound up about. (Not saying you are but many on here are)
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Post by britsabroad on Sept 16, 2014 3:20:24 GMT
This obsession with everyone and everything being out to get Stoke is getting quite embarrassing. It's like reading a Liverpool forum.
The simple fact is the average viewer would rather see other teams on there first.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 4:50:26 GMT
Im not bothered where we are on the list. I just want the editors to put up a fair reflection of the game!
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Post by Lard on Sept 16, 2014 5:36:01 GMT
What I find a little strange is that the producers favour weighing down the beginning of the program with the 'more attractive' fixtures. If this was a music festival then they would be at the end. Personally I would have thought that a good spread of these games across the whole programme might encourage more people to watch the entire programme as opposed to either joining late, or leaving early.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 16, 2014 6:22:45 GMT
Take solace in the good book. Matthew 20:16
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Post by metalhead on Sept 16, 2014 9:46:47 GMT
What I find a little strange is that the producers favour weighing down the beginning of the program with the 'more attractive' fixtures. If this was a music festival then they would be at the end. Personally I would have thought that a good spread of these games across the whole programme might encourage more people to watch the entire programme as opposed to either joining late, or leaving early. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards That's logic that is!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2014 9:49:02 GMT
If one of the Shits games got called off,MOTD would most likely show an empty Old Trafford for 20 mins.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 16, 2014 11:50:30 GMT
Take solace in the good book. Matthew 20:16 Are you Dot Cotton?
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Post by Gods on Sept 16, 2014 12:02:14 GMT
What I find a little strange is that the producers favour weighing down the beginning of the program with the 'more attractive' fixtures. If this was a music festival then they would be at the end. Personally I would have thought that a good spread of these games across the whole programme might encourage more people to watch the entire programme as opposed to either joining late, or leaving early. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards That's a great point and one which has perplexed me for a while. Imagine going to see a Film or a Show which starts well, becomes very moderate, and then ends with barely a whimper
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 16, 2014 12:05:35 GMT
I suspect they figure a lot of people are unlikely to stay up until pushing midnight to see the big game of the day and so get all the eventful games on first knowing they'll get a bigger audience for that first hour or so than they might otherwise?
When I was growing up they'd choose two games from the outset to feature and just show the goals from the others, so there was a fairly good chance you'd get an hour of 0-0 draws and then 10 minutes of goals at the end.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 12:11:49 GMT
If we're being honest, we've been at the back end of the schedule for a few years for good reason.
Christ, we've moaned 'til the cows come home at times on here about how bad some of the stuff we played has been. If we've struggled with it in the past, you can't really expect the neutral to put their feet up on a Saturday night and enjoy it.
If we can repeat the performances of Villa and Fulham last season, and hit the back of the net more regularly, then we'll find ourselves further up the schedue. Man City aside this season, I can understand why all the other games were on last or near the end.
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Post by Gods on Sept 16, 2014 12:59:13 GMT
Anyone who thinks Stoke City have EVER been any kind of fixture on MOTD in the past prior to our most recent reincarnation in 2008 as "top flighters" should read the article in the Leicester edition of the fanzine. There are some staggering facts about our absence from this show down the years but the one which hit me hardest was that in the 43 years from 1965 to our top flight return in 2008 we won in front of the MOTD cameras in top division games exactly a miserable 12 times in total. About one win every 4 years in front of the MOTD cameras. So the BBC MOTD league archives prior to 2008 comprise the grand total of exactly 12 Stoke City wins to perm from. Go on, I'm on a roll, here is another. 5 years (FIVE YEARS) passed between MOTD screening our 5-0 win against Arsenal in 1970 and our next win on MOTD. In other words the entirety of the Hudson/Greenhoff/Stokealmostfashionable epoch came and went passed without a televised MOTD victory However parsimonious our coverage may now be its a big improvement on what preceded it.
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Post by coates on Sept 16, 2014 13:16:23 GMT
This obsession with everyone and everything being out to get Stoke is getting quite embarrassing. It's like reading a Liverpool forum. The simple fact is the average viewer would rather see other teams on there first. Would the average viewer like to see a 0-0 between United and Liverpool?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 13:39:40 GMT
This obsession with everyone and everything being out to get Stoke is getting quite embarrassing. It's like reading a Liverpool forum. The simple fact is the average viewer would rather see other teams on there first. Would the average viewer like to see a 0-0 between United and Liverpool? rather than a game involving us that had one goal in it either way (which a lot of ours tend to)? yes...yes they would actually having said that, i'm thinking about complaining to the Romans as because of them and their hatred of us, we also come towards the end of the alphabet so are always near the bottom of the league before it kicks off...bastards!
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Post by coates on Sept 16, 2014 14:18:50 GMT
Would the average viewer like to see a 0-0 between United and Liverpool? rather than a game involving us that had one goal in it either way (which a lot of ours tend to)? yes...yes they would actually having said that, i'm thinking about complaining to the Romans as because of them and their hatred of us, we also come towards the end of the alphabet so are always near the bottom of the league before it kicks off...bastards! Who comes first a entertaining 2-2 draw between hull and west ham, or a bored fest between two of the big clubs. As a football fan I want to see entertaining games, with goals and chances. Motd is shite anyway they can't edit to save their life's, have many games have they properly edited to reflect what actually happened.
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Post by coates on Sept 16, 2014 14:22:05 GMT
If we're being honest, we've been at the back end of the schedule for a few years for good reason. Christ, we've moaned 'til the cows come home at times on here about how bad some of the stuff we played has been. If we've struggled with it in the past, you can't really expect the neutral to put their feet up on a Saturday night and enjoy it. If we can repeat the performances of Villa and Fulham last season, and hit the back of the net more regularly, then we'll find ourselves further up the schedue. Man City aside this season, I can understand why all the other games were on last or near the end. a 2-1 result against a top four side sees you near the beginning, where was a 2-1 result against a lower half side sees you at the end.
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Post by britsabroad on Sept 16, 2014 15:08:41 GMT
This obsession with everyone and everything being out to get Stoke is getting quite embarrassing. It's like reading a Liverpool forum. The simple fact is the average viewer would rather see other teams on there first. Would the average viewer like to see a 0-0 between United and Liverpool? Yes, whether you like it or not, its true. The average viewer wants to see their own team plus the big 4.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 16, 2014 15:10:33 GMT
This obsession with everyone and everything being out to get Stoke is getting quite embarrassing. It's like reading a Liverpool forum. The simple fact is the average viewer would rather see other teams on there first. Would the average viewer like to see a 0-0 between United and Liverpool? Depends doesn't it? I'd wager the casual viewer who might not know/have avoided the score would turn it on to see the big teams. The BBC's football coverage is very much geared towards the casual viewer, as the presence of lightweights like Shearer and Savage on the sofa illustrates nicely.
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Post by mark71 on Sept 16, 2014 15:16:01 GMT
The time to worry is when we aren't on MOTD.
It's a shit program so I don't know why people are getting wound up about it.
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Post by coates on Sept 16, 2014 15:25:10 GMT
The time to worry is when we aren't on MOTD. It's a shit program so I don't know why people are getting wound up about it. Goals on Sunday.
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Post by Gaz on Sept 16, 2014 15:57:18 GMT
In another study they found a direct correlation between the number of glory hunters and the frequency the team appeared first on MOTD. Personally, I'd like to thanks Jugears for the sterling work he's doing keeping us out of the limelight.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 16, 2014 16:03:24 GMT
Take solace in the good book. Matthew 20:16 Are you Dot Cotton?
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 16, 2014 19:02:59 GMT
One of the reasons we're not often on first is because our games haven't tended to have much riding on them in recent seasons. We've been unlikely to get relegated and haven't had any chance of qualifying for Europe via the league.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Sept 16, 2014 20:12:42 GMT
Does it really matter who is first or last? I watch the whole show anyways.
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