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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 24, 2014 15:04:17 GMT
Deep breath...
Bego - 6 Bardsley - 6 Pieters - 5 Sharcross - 7 Wilson - 6 Whelan - 6 Sidwell - 5.5 Arnie - 5.5 Nzonzi - 5 Odimwingie - 5 Diouf - 5
Bojan - 6 Crouch - 5.5 Adam - 6.5
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 24, 2014 15:08:45 GMT
Bego - 5 Bardsley - 6 Pieters - 6 Shawcross - 7 Wilson - 5 Whelan - 4 Sidwell - 5 Arnie - 5 Nzonzi - 5 Odemwingie - 5 Diouf - 4 Bojan - 5 Crouch - 5 Adam - 6 Gouranga.
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Post by borat on Aug 24, 2014 15:12:58 GMT
Bego 5 Bardsley 6 Shawcross 6 Wilson 5 Pieters 6 Whelan 5 N Zonz 7 Odemwingie 6 Sidwell 4 Arnie 2 Diouf 1
Subs Bojan 6 Crouch 6 Adam 7
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 24, 2014 15:14:27 GMT
Bego 4 Bardsley 4 Shawcross 6 Wilson 4 Pieters 5 Whelan 5 Sidwell 3 N'zonzi 5 Odemwingie 4 Arnie 4 Diouf 3
Bojan 4 Crouch 4 Adam 5
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Post by robstokie on Aug 24, 2014 15:18:24 GMT
Begovic 5 - not convinced with the goal and his kicking was poor.
Shawcross 7 - Wasn't his brilliant best but at least salvaged a point at the end. Wilson 4 - Lost his man for the goal. Having him at centre-half is like having a ticking-time-bomb waiting to give away a goal or two. Bardsley 6 - Solid enough, and was unlucky not to score before Shawcross did. Pieters 5 - Doesn't look anywhere near his best. Elmohamady ran him ragged today.
Whelan 5 - Got their bloke sent off, but looked below par. N Zonzi 6 - Started very slowly. Came into the game a lot more after half-time. Sidwell 4 - Didn't really offer much today
Arnie 4 - Bang off form at the moment. Odemwingie 4 - Lost the ball too often in decent areas. Poor. Diouf 4 - Starved of good service for long periods, them missed a sitter.
subs
Bojan 6 - Created some of our better opportunities in the second half. Adam 7 - Injected us with impetus and looked our biggest threat when he came on. Man of the Match Crouch 6 - Held the ball up well enough and gave us a focus point up front.
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Post by foxxy on Aug 24, 2014 15:25:18 GMT
Begovic - 5
Bardsley - 6 Shawcross - 7 Wilson - 4 Pieters - 6
Whelan - 5 Nzonzi - 6 Sidwell - 6
Arnie - 3 Odemwingie - 7 Diouf - 5
Subs
Bojan - 6 Adam - 6 Crouch - 6
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Post by rosco on Aug 24, 2014 15:26:53 GMT
Begovic 5 Bardsley 5 Shawcross 6 Wilson 5 Pieters 5 Whelan 6 Nzonzi 5 Sidwell 6 Arnautovic 2 Odemwingie 6 Diouf 4
Bojan 6 Crouch 6 Adam 6
All three subs should be starting
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 24, 2014 15:28:44 GMT
Bego - 5 Barsley - 5 Shawcross - 7 Wilson - 5 Pieters - 5
Whelan - 4 N'zonzi - 4 Sidwell - 5
Arnie - 3 Odemwingie - 6 Diouf - 4
---- Bojan - 6.5 Adam - 6 Crouch - 5
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 24, 2014 15:30:08 GMT
Deep breath... Bego - 6 Bardsley - 6 Pieters - 5 Sharcross - 7 Wilson - 6 Whelan - 6 Sidwell - 5.5 Arnie - 5.5 Nzonzi - 5 Odimwingie - 5 Diouf - 5 Bojan - 6 Crouch - 5.5 Adam - 6.5 Arnie 5.5 What makes you think he wasn't our worst player today?
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Aug 24, 2014 15:37:27 GMT
Deep breath... Bego - 6 Bardsley - 6 Pieters - 5 Sharcross - 7 Wilson - 6 Whelan - 6 Sidwell - 5.5 Arnie - 5.5 Nzonzi - 5 Odimwingie - 5 Diouf - 5 Bojan - 6 Crouch - 5.5 Adam - 6.5 Arnie 5.5 What makes you think he wasn't our worst player today? Because Diouf was. Gouranga.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Aug 24, 2014 15:41:45 GMT
Odemwingie 6.5
the rest all less
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 24, 2014 15:44:09 GMT
Begovic 5- poor on the goal, not much else to do. Bardsley 5- lacks quality. get Cameron back in. Pieters 6*- played OK. man of the match by default. Shawcross 6- very clumsy at the back but did scramble us a goal Wilson 5- generally unconvincing
Whelan 5- not his greatest game N'Zonzi 5- passing extremely lazy at times Sidwell 5- Not up to much
Arnie 4- awful Odemwingie 6- put some decent crosses in. Diouf 4- joke performance
subs:
Bojan 5- ok but a bit lightweight Adam 6- improved us. Crouch 6- gave us a bit of presence.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 15:45:04 GMT
Begovic 5 Bardsley 5 Shawcross 5 Wilson 4 Pieters 5 Odemwingie 4 Sidwell 4 Whelan 4 Nzonzi 5 Arnautovic 3 Diouf 3
Bojan 4 Crouch 5 Adam 5
Hughes 3
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 15:45:43 GMT
(I'll paste it across from the other thread) Bego 4 - never seen him make so many mistakes. Should've done better with the goal and his kicking was awful Bardsley 6 - growing on me, did alright today. One of our better players Pieters 6 - defensively brilliant in the first half, not superb in the second. Needs to cross more Shawcross 7 - goal gets him up to a 7, wasn't his best game Wilson 6 - not buying the scapegoat bollucks, he wasn't bad today. Whelan 6 - didn't look great, but may have been down to his injury. Got Hull the red card though Sidwell 5 - worst opening 5 minutes to a debut I've ever seen. But got better, finished around average Arnie 4 - even he knew he shouldn't have woken up this morning Nzonzi 5 - too slow on the ball today, but wasn't as tragic as some on social media made out Odemwingie 6 - did alright but again, nothing special. Had better games Diouf - 6 - with little service he put a shift in. Poor header in the second half but was a threat with pace
Bojan 5 - bounced off every ball and wasn't amazing, but redeemed by his assist Crouch 5 - wasn't as effective as last week's cameo Adam 5 - instant impact, but trailed off after that.
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Post by takeshikovacs on Aug 24, 2014 15:51:58 GMT
Bego - 6 Bardsley - 5 Pieters - 5 Shawcross - 6 Wilson - 5 Whelan - 4 Sidwell - 5 Arnie - 3 Nzonzi - 5 Odimwingie - 6 Diouf - 5
Bojan - 5 Crouch - 5 Adam - 6
Marks reflect a performance against a mediocre mid-table side playing with 10 men for the majority of the game.
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Post by Stoke711 on Aug 24, 2014 15:58:16 GMT
*
Begovic - 4, didn't do enough with shot that led to their goal, bad kick to Shawcross straight out of play, little else to do.
Bardsley - 6, defended ok, got forward, supported Odemwingie, hit the post that led to the goal.
Pieters - 5, had a tough afternoon, got beat a few times too easy.
Shawcross - 7, scored, 2 shots on target, 1 off target. Decent at the back, although seemed to be asleep at times 1st half.
Wilson - 5, struggled today, didn't win a lot & not assured at the back.
Arnie - 2, just didn't look like he wanted to play today, head dropped early, bad control & poor effort at goal.
Odemwingie - 5, tried get down the line, lost the ball too easy, trying let the ball run out in front of me & kicks it out for a goal kick.
Whelan - 4, poor passing with anything over 10 yards to the side. Half asleep to 2nd balls.
N'Zonzi - 6, poor first 20 mins, tried to impose himself on the game, awful effort at goal after a good run, won fair share of tackles/headers.
Sidwell - 4, too slow, lost possession easily, didn't look the part at all, not surprised he was subbed.
Diouf - 3, fell over too easily, ran the ball out again, had 2 chances, poor header wide & shot wide, should've squared the ball to Bojan but instead rolled it out wide to Odemwingie, too slow to react to Bojan's square pass.
Subs
Bojan - 5, tried to make things happen, couple of good crosses, knocked off the ball to easily, tried to beat too many men & ended up running into trouble. Some awful tackling attempts.
Crouch - 5, should've squared the ball to Diouf but instead rolled it out wide to Odemwingie, poor effort at goal after bringing it down, won a few headers.
Adam -5, wanted the ball, unlucky with his shot, least he showed some urgency.
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Post by goonyoustoke on Aug 24, 2014 16:40:50 GMT
Begovic - 5 Bardsley - 6 Pieters - 5 Shawcross - 6 Wilson - 5 Whelan - 5 Sidwell - 2 Arnautovic - 2 Nzonzi - 4 Odemwingie - 4 Diouf - 3
Bojan - 6 Crouch - 4 Adam - 7
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 24, 2014 16:44:18 GMT
Begovic 5 Bardsley 6 Shawcross 6 Wilson 5 Pieters 5 Whelan 3 Nzonzi 6 Sidwell 5 Arnautovic 3 Odemwingie 4 Diouf 5
Bojan 5 Crouch 6 Adam 6
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Post by reddipotter on Aug 24, 2014 16:59:47 GMT
Begovic- 5 doesn't look solid at the moment. Bardsley- 4 has Cameron ever had two such poor games in a row? Pieters- 5 held position better than usual but struggles against wingers who run at him. Wilson- 4 I've supported him but this was a weak performance Shawcross- 7 came forward well and did okay with little support from the rest of his defence. Whelan- 5 not at his best perhaps because apparently injured. N'Zonzi- 4 he's a large part of the problem by sitting in the key central position but not producing chances, shots, or moving the ball quickly enough. We improved last season when he was suspended and it's time to leave him out again. Odemwingie- 5 had a decent first half but faded out of the game (as he often does) Arnie- 3 constantly wastes the ball. Sidwell- 4 was he playing? Diouf 4 not offering much at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 17:03:05 GMT
Mark Wilson is looking awfully slow to me. I've noticed it in both games up to now. Although he finished the season well last, I think we could do better than him.
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Post by Stoke70 on Aug 24, 2014 17:23:08 GMT
Bego - 4 Bardsley - 3 Shawcross - 6.5 Wilson - 2 Pieters - 5 N'Zonzi - 5 Whelan - 4 Sidwell - 4 Arnie - 2 Odemwingie - 7 Diouf - 2
Bojan - 6 Crouch - 7 Adam - 7
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Post by Gunslinger on Aug 24, 2014 19:35:14 GMT
Begovic 6. A bit unlucky by that goal
Shawcross 7. Ok. Played it safe Wilson 4. Poor Bardsley 6. I've seen better and I've seen worse performances Pieters 6. Ditto
Whelan 5. Looks like he only gave 50% of his usual best. Carried an injury? N'Zonzi 7. Think he's started the season very well! At least he tried Sidwell 4. Did he play?
Arnie 3. Wow. Just a shadow of the player he was last season. tried too many fancy passes and ended up giving the ball away. Odemwingie 6. Took initiatives and tried to unlock the Hull-defences. Diouf 5. Almost no service at all. Must be frustrating!
Subs:
Bojan 6. Gave us some options and made Hull look over their shoulder Adam 7. gave us some drive and energy Crouch 7. Held the ball up well
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Post by dwr17477 on Aug 24, 2014 22:00:57 GMT
Bego 5 - has to take some blame for the goal. Bardsley 5 - not sure, as yet. Shawcross 6 - seems a bit nervous at the moment but had one good chance and was in the right place to get the equaliser Wilson 5 - we need some cover for him - is Huth still getting his fitness back? A back defender is really required. Teixeira to play against Pompey. Pieters 5 - so so. Whelan 5 - need an upgrade. Sidwell 3 - back up only, for me. N'zonzi 6 - ok. Odemwingie 5.5 - early second half crosses but faded. Arnie 3 - not at his best at the moment. Diouf 3.5 - am trying to keep faith with him.
Bojan 6 - he's lightweight - that worries me - but he did ok. Crouch 6 - we cannot let him leave, he does offer a plan b. Adam 6.5 - he should be starting - great shot and he's more decisive - no messing about.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 24, 2014 22:07:13 GMT
Have we got a buy back clause with Hanover for Diouf? I do hope so!
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Post by musik on Aug 24, 2014 22:48:58 GMT
Bego - 5 :could even he look uncertain? Bardsley - 5 :went forward a lot again Pieters - 5,5 :did ok Shawcross - 6 :MoM perhaps Wilson - 4 :too slow, I'm afraid every time he gets the ball Whelan - 3 :bad passes several times, our worst player again Sidwell - 5 :looked ok Arnie - 5 :mixed emotions Nzonzi - 6 :better this times, almost MoM Odimwingie - 5 :some promising crosses and eagerness, but also some really bad passes Diouf - 5 :too isolated at times
Bojan - 5 :why all those crosses to the keeper, looks fragile Crouch - 5 :not up to his best yet Adam - 5 :some promising things
1-1 was a fair result.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 23:38:25 GMT
Bego 4 Bardsley 4 Shawcross 6 Wilson 5 Pieters 5 Nzonzi 5 Whelan 5 Sidwell 5 Arnie 4 Odemwingie 6 Diouf 3
Adam 6 Bojan 5 Crouch 5
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Post by upthefud on Aug 25, 2014 0:41:02 GMT
Bego 5
Bardsley 7 Shawcross 6 Wilson 5 Pieters 6
Whelan 6 (Bojan 5) Sidwell 6 (Adam 7)
Arnautovic 2 (Crouch 5.5) N 'Zonzi 6 Odemwingie 5
Diouf 5
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 25, 2014 6:40:24 GMT
Some of those marks are plain stupid and an over reaction of epic proportions.
As for the comment above "has Cameron ever had two consecutive poor games as bad as Bardsley" the answer is "of course he fucking has". You clearly have the memory of a goldfish!
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Post by 2004 on Aug 25, 2014 10:50:05 GMT
Begovic- 4 Bardsley- 5 Shawcross- 6 Wilson- 4 Pieters- 5 Whelan-6 Sidwell- 5 Odemwingie- 5 Nzonzi- 6 Arnautovic- 3 Diouf- 4
Bojan- 5 Crouch- 5 Adam- 5
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