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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 19:24:56 GMT
I urge people to get a fucking grip, stop crying for 5 fucking minutes of comets non-stories and support the club now. I am supporting the club. I'm not prepared to let an ex manager of this club try to wash his hands of the problems he created at this football club, by telling half truths and one sided stories to the press. He spent a fortune at this football club on ageing shit that we can never recoup any type of money back on, and in turn made us one paced plodders that were the lowest scoring team in all 4 divisions of English football. Peter Coates did this football club and Tony Pulis the biggest favour of all time by sacking him. Had he still been here now we'd be back in the Championship and that manager, one of the luckiest in English football today, would have his perfect "never been relegated" record completely tarnished for good. He'd created a monster that he couldn't sort out. Perfectly put. Stoke fans are bound to be a bit miffed when he is spouting complete and utter bollocks about his time here.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 19:26:41 GMT
I urge people to get a fucking grip, stop crying for 5 fucking minutes of comets non-stories and support the club now. I am supporting the club. I'm not prepared to let an ex manager of this club try to wash his hands of the problems he created at this football club, by telling half truths and one sided stories to the press. He spent a fortune at this football club on ageing shit that we can never recoup any type of money back on, and in turn made us one paced plodders that were the lowest scoring team in all 4 divisions of English football. Peter Coates did this football club and Tony Pulis the biggest favour of all time by sacking him. Had he still been here now we'd be back in the Championship and that manager, one of the luckiest in English football today, would have his perfect "never been relegated" record completely tarnished for good. He'd created a monster that he couldn't sort out. Boring, unproven nonsense
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2014 19:29:28 GMT
Pulis is responsible for all things good and bad over the best part of the past 10 or 11 years but even that particular quote is completely out of context. What is the context then? For me the context is that he was clearly talking about teams at the stage he came into them. Stoke had certain strengths and he identified Palace's as pace. That's certainly what it sounds like on the BBC interview and not difficult to argue with.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 19:38:08 GMT
What is the context then? For me the context is that he was clearly talking about teams at the stage he came into them. Stoke had certain strengths and he identified Palace's as pace. That's certainly what it sounds like on the BBC interview and not difficult to argue with. So he was talking about when he first came to the club in 2002/2006? I don't think there's anything in what he says to clearly indicate that at all mate. He just says 'at Stoke' doesn't he?
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Post by foxysgloves on Apr 20, 2014 19:38:48 GMT
Maybe the constant jibes about the way Stoke played under him got to him. Maybe he's thinking of how, in the future, he doesn't want to be labelled a one trick pony this making him more employable. I got tired of analysing every word he said while he was here, I can't be arsed to start again now. Either way, he was responsible for shaping how we played and the lack of pace was down to him. Fair? Absolutely.
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Post by Davef on Apr 20, 2014 19:43:51 GMT
Dear Proboards Support Could you please advise on how to merge threads from a Stoke City message board to a Crystal Palace message board? We seem to have lots of members who are confused as to which one they should be using. Yours sincerely, The Oatcake.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 20, 2014 19:45:55 GMT
To be fair, i heard his live post-match interview on Radio 5 Live with Mark Pougatch which this sounds like it's been taken from and it wasn't like that line reads at all. Pougatch asked him quite a leading question about "...now there's always talk about your teams style of play but you're quite exciting..." or something like to which Pulis laughed and said "Don't ask me about style of play or anything Mark, i'll get in all sorts of trouble" He was then asked about the talk of him being nominated for manager of the season and how it made him feel and also whether he felt he'd done a better job with Palace than at Stoke to which Pulis said summat like (I'm paraphrasing here) "I was at Stoke for 11 years Mark, i had great times at Stoke. I've not even been here a year so i can't compare the two. This is a totally different team to what I had at Stoke, with different strengths." He then went on to talk about Palace's specific strengths and talked about them being organised and used the line "I think we're an exciting team." So i think that this may well be a case of taking things out of context. When comments get edited and commas get put where full-stops should be and such like, anything can be twisted. I dunno, continue to do whatever. Why was there two more pages of stuff after this post? End the thread here.
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Post by Gordon Marshall on Apr 20, 2014 19:53:19 GMT
Pulis era gone. We play better football now more exciting lets move on. Pulis was stubborn as stoke manager would not change his ways when he had the chance. He did great for us to get us and establish us in the prem but when had the chance to move us on could not. Lets see next season where we are compared to them. I will put my house on we are way above.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 19:55:33 GMT
Dear Proboards Support Could you please advise on how to merge threads from a Stoke City message board to a Crystal Palace message board? We seem to have lots of members who are confused as to which one they should be using. Yours sincerely, The Oatcake.
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Post by werrington on Apr 20, 2014 20:19:11 GMT
He's a hypocrite.....no more no less
Time and time again he let's his guard down
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Post by ricardocomeback on Apr 20, 2014 20:24:33 GMT
Im sure TP was just trying to say that he inherited some good players at Palace with creativity. I watched them on MOTD last night and was really impressed with their attacking play, all credit to TP.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2014 20:26:20 GMT
At worst it's a piece of self-aggrandisement, it's certainly not barbed to Stoke or his time here or anyone who remains, either way its certainly no worse than anything Mark Hughes has said about times in previous roles.
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 20, 2014 20:43:35 GMT
I am delighted that he has successfully moved on, just wish others would do the same, he is no longer our manager, even more than that he now manages a rival team. Whatever he does or says is a matter for Crystal Palace not us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 20:43:40 GMT
At worst it's a piece of self-aggrandisement, it's certainly not barbed to Stoke or his time here or anyone who remains, either way its certainly no worse than anything Mark Hughes has said about times in previous roles. It's not barbed. It's just bullshit.
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Post by Gordon Marshall on Apr 20, 2014 20:49:10 GMT
End of the day most of us wanted to move the football style on to a higher level, we were happy with hoe far we had come under pulis. What i or we can't understand is why he plays that style with palace but would not even try to with us. Move on now, pulis does not care about us it was a job. Mark Hughes as my 100% support
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Post by stokiesteve on Apr 20, 2014 20:50:05 GMT
Its amusing that he has found this exciting streak with Holloways players, isn't it?
Yes I know he added to it in the January window Stafford, but fundamentally, its Holloways.
Its sad he's said this, its like he's bitter or something.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 20:50:32 GMT
I am delighted that he has successfully moved on, just wish others would do the same, he is no longer our manager, even more than that he now manages a rival team. Whatever he does or says is a matter for Crystal Palace not us. If he's moved on then why does he keep mentioning our club in his interviews? I dare say if you sat him down away from all of this then you'd find his real answer. That being he hasn't moved on at all in reality and is very bitter about his sacking.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2014 20:58:54 GMT
I am delighted that he has successfully moved on, just wish others would do the same, he is no longer our manager, even more than that he now manages a rival team. Whatever he does or says is a matter for Crystal Palace not us. If he's moved on then why does he keep mentioning our club in his interviews? I dare say if you sat him down away from all of this then you'd find his real answer. That being he hasn't moved on at all in reality and is very bitter about his sacking. Quality re-writing of history there onlooker. He was asked a direct question regarding his former club and you've just reminded me of another strand of wankstain bullshit that Pulis would spew venom when he was sacked. All typical wankstain incorrect bullshit!
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Post by cmc89 on Apr 20, 2014 21:00:19 GMT
I am delighted that he has successfully moved on, just wish others would do the same, he is no longer our manager, even more than that he now manages a rival team. Whatever he does or says is a matter for Crystal Palace not us. If he's moved on then why does he keep mentioning our club in his interviews? I dare say if you sat him down away from all of this then you'd find his real answer. That being he hasn't moved on at all in reality and is very bitter about his sacking. I'm pretty sure if you read the post from the guy who gives the context, he says that the question leads with asking about stoke. I imagine this is something he gets week in week out so it's inevitable that some soundbites about us will come through in his interviews.
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Post by wuzza on Apr 20, 2014 21:04:36 GMT
Dont think TP is 'bitter' - he's just proved what an outstanding manager he is to the whole football world. I think the 'bitter' element is probably being displayed by some folk who constantly disrespected him and are struggling to find anything to justify their views with. Just a thought like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 21:04:51 GMT
If he's moved on then why does he keep mentioning our club in his interviews? I dare say if you sat him down away from all of this then you'd find his real answer. That being he hasn't moved on at all in reality and is very bitter about his sacking. Quality re-writing of history there onlooker. He was asked a direct question regarding his former club and you've just reminded me of another strand of wankstain bullshit that Pulis would spew venom when he was sacked. All typical wankstain incorrect bullshit! I'm rewriting nothing. It's my take on what i'm seeing when I see his interviews and watching/listening to the shit he's coming out with. If he has moved on as the poster is suggesting then answer me one basic question. Why does he keep mentioning us in his interviews?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 20, 2014 21:10:25 GMT
Quality re-writing of history there onlooker. He was asked a direct question regarding his former club and you've just reminded me of another strand of wankstain bullshit that Pulis would spew venom when he was sacked. All typical wankstain incorrect bullshit! I'm rewriting nothing. It's my take on what i'm seeing when I see his interviews and watching/listening to the shit he's coming out with. If he has moved as the poster is suggesting then answer me one basic question. Why does he keep mentioning us in his interviews? Hmm? Maybe because he keeps getting asked about us or his time with us? I think every line about us is in direct response to questions mentioning us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 21:13:41 GMT
I'm rewriting nothing. It's my take on what i'm seeing when I see his interviews and watching/listening to the shit he's coming out with. If he has moved as the poster is suggesting then answer me one basic question. Why does he keep mentioning us in his interviews? Hmm? Maybe because he keeps getting asked about us or his time with us? I think every line about us is in direct response to questions mentioning us. Not one reporter has mentioned our club when questioning him. If you don't believe me then watch the interviews on the BBC website yourself.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2014 21:18:49 GMT
Hmm? Maybe because he keeps getting asked about us or his time with us? I think every line about us is in direct response to questions mentioning us. Not one reporter has mentioned our club when questioning him. If you don't believe me then watch the interviews on the BBC website yourself. utter fabrication nearly as bad as this 'dripping poison' bollocks we've been warned about.
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Post by Kewstokie on Apr 20, 2014 21:29:47 GMT
Never paints the whole picture does he, implies he was instrumental in or takes credit for things that at best he was peripheral to as in the quote in this week's local rag :- “I can remember us reporting at the stadium, getting changed in the dressing rooms and then coming down here (Clayton Woods training ground) and training, there were four cars in the car park and a few dogs running around,” said Pulis in May last year. “You go down to the car park now and you’ve got a thousand cars down there. It has changed and grown from top to bottom.” Why does the reporter quote this unless Pulis (or his PR/CV) mentioned it directly? Did the reporter really ask him, tell me what you did at Stoke then?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 21:33:14 GMT
Not one reporter has mentioned our club when questioning him. If you don't believe me then watch the interviews on the BBC website yourself. utter fabrication nearly as bad as this 'dripping poison' bollocks we've been warned about. The truth is out there if you choose to look. If you choose to hide and spout shit like "utter fabrication" then that's up to you. People will judge for themselves.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2014 21:41:03 GMT
utter fabrication nearly as bad as this 'dripping poison' bollocks we've been warned about. The truth is out there if you choose to look. If you choose to hide and spout shit like "utter fabrication" then that's up to you. People will judge for themselves. People with ears will judge for themselves, using the information they have heard through their ears and they will conclude that you're talking utter fucking bollocks........... or have no ears.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 21:44:04 GMT
The truth is out there if you choose to look. If you choose to hide and spout shit like "utter fabrication" then that's up to you. People will judge for themselves. People with ears will judge for themselves, using the information they have heard through their ears and they will conclude that you're talking utter fucking bollocks........... or have no ears. After the Everton game, the interviewer commented that his team is playing a good brand of football - he instantly jumped in and mentioned that he had different players than he had at STOKE. After the West Ham game, the interviewer commented on the team spirit he had at Palace - he instantly jumped in and started talking about the squad/supporter base and the interaction between the two that he built at STOKE. It's ok though, like you say, i'm talking bollocks.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2014 21:46:17 GMT
People with ears will judge for themselves, using the information they have heard through their ears and they will conclude that you're talking utter fucking bollocks........... or have no ears. It's ok though, like you say, i'm talking bollocks. Bingo. Thank God for that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 21:56:07 GMT
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