|
Post by citygent10 on Jan 19, 2014 9:22:50 GMT
This is not a go at Shawcross but I don't think that he is a captain he is no vocal enough as team we as to quiet on the pitch. I don't know who in the team would make a god captain
|
|
|
Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jan 19, 2014 9:31:05 GMT
This is not a go at Shawcross but I don't think that he is a captain he is no vocal enough as team we as to quiet on the pitch. I don't know who in the team would make a god captain Being Club Captain isn't just about barking at players on the pitch during a game, it's far more involved than that
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 9:34:05 GMT
via mobile
Post by ST5-POTTER on Jan 19, 2014 9:34:05 GMT
To be honest I think he has been poor too many times this season.
|
|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 19, 2014 9:36:00 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night.
|
|
|
Post by Han Solo on Jan 19, 2014 9:36:01 GMT
Agreed lovely lad and a great ambassador but for me not a leader. For me only one man capable and that's Adam.
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 9:36:03 GMT
via mobile
Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2014 9:36:03 GMT
Being captain he can lead by example more by flying into blocking shots instead of lately half heartedly shying away and dangling a leg to block them.
If players see their captain throwing themselves at it to block an attempt others may follow.
|
|
|
Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Jan 19, 2014 9:46:19 GMT
I think people are being very harsh on Ryan. Has he been below his usual standard recently ? Maybe yes. I thought against Everton he was world class and had Lukaku in his pocket to such a point that they subbed Lukaku off. Also don't forget Ryan is not fully fit at the moment he is still carrying his groin injury. I truly believe he is a solid top 10 premier league defender.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 9:47:13 GMT
He does not need to be vocal. His problems are within 5 yards of him!
He has a new young goalkeeper behind him, and he has a stand in centre half next to him. He also has a mard arse french man in front of him that can go up like a bottle of pop at any moment and refuses to track back.
Ryan has a lot to do to patch that up, aside from be captain and aside from having his own performance to deliver.
Cut the guy some slack. He is a fantastic defender and 100% committed to the club. That will do for me any day of the week.
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 9:47:43 GMT
via mobile
Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 19, 2014 9:47:43 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. Really? Some people, literally, just don't have an ounce of decency.
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 9:48:49 GMT
via mobile
Post by Bombus on Jan 19, 2014 9:48:49 GMT
Nonsense.
|
|
|
Post by jeycov on Jan 19, 2014 9:55:04 GMT
He does not need to be vocal. His problems are within 5 yards of him! He has a new young goalkeeper behind him, and he has a stand in centre half next to him. He also has a mard arse french man in front of him that can go up like a bottle of pop at any moment and refuses to track back. Ryan has a lot to do to patch that up, aside from be captain and aside from having his own performance to deliver. Cut the guy some slack. He is a fantastic defender and 100% committed to the club. That will do for me any day of the week. Agree, he's had a couple of very average games but has also produced some excellent performances, e.g. the Everton game just a few weeks ago. Only Begovic had maintained a very good standard of play in every game that he has been involved in imo. The change in approach to our game needs much more adjustment from our defenders A more confrontational captain could result in the wrong kind of reaction from certain players, e.g N'Zonzi, possibly a few more The 100% commitment to the club is an extremely valuable asset, I believe that MH has faith in him, the commitment of some of our other players is questionable at times. He's missed Huth, let's hope that Robert can return and regain his form asap
|
|
|
Post by penkvillepotter on Jan 19, 2014 10:02:12 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. There are times when I truly despair about this world. A selective cull once in a while wouldn't go amiss.
|
|
|
Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 19, 2014 10:03:58 GMT
I despair
Yet again yesterday he was one of three who showed he cared and played well enough. The bloke has been playing through a groin injury and injections. But due to a continued rubbish management strategy, we have no cover and therefore he continues to play
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 10:04:42 GMT
I thought he was one of about three players to come out of yesterday with any credit.
This season his leadership skills have really come to the fore for me. Always pointing, shouting, organising.
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 10:06:47 GMT
via mobile
Post by sportsman on Jan 19, 2014 10:06:47 GMT
Ryan and huth just love playing together. When ones out the other hasn't looked as solid which is understandable. Bigger teams like citeh united and Chelsea will tell you that.
Take one strong link out of the defence and the others don't feel as secure.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 10:07:15 GMT
Jesus, this really is the least of our problems.
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 10:07:21 GMT
via mobile
Post by werrington on Jan 19, 2014 10:07:21 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. What was said mate ?
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2014 10:07:24 GMT
Great captain.
|
|
|
Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 19, 2014 10:09:17 GMT
Ryan was one of very few Stoke players yesterday who could look himself in the mirror and say "I played well".
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 10:10:10 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. We really do have some class one fucktards 'supporting us'. Yesterday I was stuck in front of a collective of ***** who did nothing but shout abuse at various members of our team and kept yelling 'shoe bomber' at Assaidi.
|
|
|
Post by alexk on Jan 19, 2014 10:21:55 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. We really do have some class one fucktards 'supporting us'. Yesterday I was stuck in front of a collective of ***** who did nothing but shout abuse at various members of our team and kept yelling 'shoe bomber' at Assaidi. Fucking hell. I reckon 70% of all football fans are utter morons. Sadly ours are no different.
|
|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 19, 2014 10:23:41 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. What was said mate ? Some people accused her of celebrating a victory for Pulis when of course she had not. There was a thread on here about it briefly. Some vicious stuff.
|
|
|
Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 19, 2014 10:28:12 GMT
Some people accused her of celebrating a victory for Pulis when of course she had not. There was a thread on here about it briefly. Some vicious stuff. My fault re on here! And I apologise.
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 10:28:31 GMT
via mobile
Post by werrington on Jan 19, 2014 10:28:31 GMT
Some people accused her of celebrating a victory for Pulis when of course she had not. There was a thread on here about it briefly. Some vicious stuff. Wtf is wrong with people ? Opinions are to be welcomed that stuff is gutter
|
|
|
Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 19, 2014 12:56:01 GMT
There's still a bit of residual steam coming out of my ears from yesterday's emotional cauldron. I havn't gathered my thoughts sufficiently to properly assess what I witnessed. A couple of quiet pints and a chat with a few mates who watched it on th'telly and I may regain a bit of perspective.
What I do know is I have no anger towards Ryan. But I was absolutely bewildered to see him spend the last twenty minutes in attack- it looked to me like he single handedly wanted to drag the shower of shite over the line....
Two incidents summed up the crazy mentality of a number of our fans for me: 1} Pre-match boozing and all we got was songs about Ken Barlow, and Ric Fuller! 2} The concourse shower party. What the fuck would possess any sane individual to queue for a bottle of beer {£4.20} to then chuck it about? Fucking brain dead.
Possibly the worst £100 I've ever spent. Enjoyed the Eagle though that was mint.
Shame Kenwynne wasn't available, Crouchie needs a rest and yesterday was a bit more evidence. Anyone know why Assaidi was taken off, I thought he'd started to play his way into the game.. {the back pass didn't justify subbing him.}
|
|
|
Post by metalhead on Jan 19, 2014 13:18:51 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. Who? Fucking cunts. If they're on here they should hang their in shame.
|
|
|
Post by mermaidsal on Jan 19, 2014 13:22:13 GMT
He's doing fine as captain. When he's been good this season he's been awesome. He's got lost a few times but honestly I think Ryan's big problem is he's gone from working with one of the strongest defensive managers/coaches in the game to one of the weakest, simple as.
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 15:10:59 GMT
via mobile
Post by Olgrligm on Jan 19, 2014 15:10:59 GMT
When I was a lot younger, my maths teacher omce told me that the only negative trait of the people of Stoke-on-Trent was a staggering, unparalleled ability to put down themselves and their own. That's what we're seeing with Shawcross. Any other set of supporters would be shouting to the heavens about having the best English defender around but our supporters are running in to slate him for made up rubbish about captaincy and distribution. Only in Stoke.
For most of this season he has been a one man back four, abandoned by his team mates. He has been stunningly good and must be set to win player of the season. He has deserved it for six seasons in a row now.
|
|
|
Post by BuzzB on Jan 19, 2014 15:18:24 GMT
When I was a lot younger, my maths teacher omce told me that the only negative trait of the people of Stoke-on-Trent was a staggering, unparalleled ability to put down themselves and their own. That's what we're seeing with Shawcross. Any other set of supporters would be shouting to the heavens about having the best English defender around but our supporters are running in to slate him for made up rubbish about captaincy and distribution. Only in Stoke. For most of this season he has been a one man back four, abandoned by his team mates. He has been stunningly good and must be set to win player of the season. He has deserved it for six seasons in a row now. excellent summary, I wish we had 11 players with Ryans attitude and commitment!
|
|
|
Shawcross
Jan 19, 2014 15:19:19 GMT
via mobile
Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2014 15:19:19 GMT
I should imagine he will be looking to fuck off soon after some of the dribbling imbeciles calling themselves Stoke fans were slagging his wife off on twitter last night. Good lord above. Wouldn't blame him if he walked away from that shit.
|
|