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Post by jammystokie on Jan 8, 2014 13:37:56 GMT
... we haven't scored a single headed goal this season in the Premier League
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Post by lordb on Jan 8, 2014 13:44:35 GMT
not 1
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Post by kingstokie on Jan 8, 2014 13:44:52 GMT
It is known
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jan 8, 2014 13:45:19 GMT
3 words as to why though ....... John Walters Crossing
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Jan 8, 2014 13:47:24 GMT
... we haven't scored a single headed goal this season in the Premier League Facebook per chance?
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Post by MilanStokie on Jan 8, 2014 13:50:29 GMT
3 words as to why though ....... John Walters Crossing The last few games I recall seeing some wicked crosses by Jon, Cameron has also put some great balls in. I think it is probably more to do with having 1 of the most immobile strikers up top on his own. We have also lost our edge on set pieces despite have some players capable of a quality dead ball.
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Post by unknown182 on Jan 8, 2014 13:51:55 GMT
True story
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jan 8, 2014 13:52:40 GMT
3 words as to why though ....... John Walters Crossing The last few games I recall seeing some wicked crosses by Jon, Cameron has also put some great balls in. I think it is probably more to do with having 1 of the most immobile strikers up top on his own. We have also lost our edge on set pieces despite have some players capable of a quality dead ball. Fair point, but he is without doubt not a winger, I don't care what MH says
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Post by jammystokie on Jan 8, 2014 13:55:50 GMT
... we haven't scored a single headed goal this season in the Premier League Facebook per chance? Opta Stats.
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Post by kingstokie on Jan 8, 2014 13:58:53 GMT
The Problem is Crouch. Kenwyne has started one game and scored one with his head and should have scored another in the second half.
Crouch just doesn't like to use his head, which is a bit unfortunate when hes the only person were crossing the ball in to.
Against Everton Assaidi whipped in a great cross for him to head home, but instead he controlled it and tried to get it down.
We should be putting a few away on corners though with Huth and Shawcross.
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Post by chr15 on Jan 8, 2014 13:59:14 GMT
Not surprising, if true. Few quality crosses coming into the box and, when there are, no-one on the pitch capable of attacking them properly.
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Jan 8, 2014 14:44:36 GMT
Mark and his team are well aware of this statistic and are working hard on changing it. Anybody who goes to view training will have noticed crossing and heading the ball has stepped up markedly.
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Post by Gods on Jan 8, 2014 14:53:50 GMT
20 games down, just 18 to go. Has anyone ever gone an entire season without a headed goal
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 8, 2014 15:20:41 GMT
3 words as to why though ....... John Walters Crossing What rubbish.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jan 8, 2014 15:25:35 GMT
3 words as to why though ....... John Walters Crossing What rubbish. So is crossing has been good? now that's rubbish
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 8, 2014 16:14:42 GMT
So is crossing has been good? now that's rubbish But blaming it on one player is completely wrong, what about Assaidi, his crossing has been amazing hasn't it.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jan 8, 2014 16:15:52 GMT
So is crossing has been good? now that's rubbish But blaming it on one player is completely wrong, what about Assaidi, his crossing has been amazing hasn't it. Walters is the scapegoat im sticking with the trend
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 8, 2014 16:29:54 GMT
And as of the other week we'd won the most aerial duals in the league too.
Walters is shit at crossing but he's barely attempted any so the quality isn't the problem.
We aren't getting enough crosses in period. Cameron has improved that but Assaidi, Pieters and Walters barely make one cross a game. And Pieters' and Walters' crossing is generally shit.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 8, 2014 16:33:43 GMT
And as of the other week we'd won the most aerial duals in the league too. Walters is shit at crossing but he's barely attempted any so the quality isn't the problem. We aren't getting enough crosses in period. Cameron has improved that but Assaidi, Pieters and Walters barely make one cross a game. And Pieters' and Walters' crossing is generally shit. Its the main reason I'm still not convinced about Assaidi, for a winger he does next to nothing in creating chances for others, great that he scores goals, but needs to be doing much more when he isn't.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 8, 2014 16:36:14 GMT
And as of the other week we'd won the most aerial duals in the league too. Walters is shit at crossing but he's barely attempted any so the quality isn't the problem. We aren't getting enough crosses in period. Cameron has improved that but Assaidi, Pieters and Walters barely make one cross a game. And Pieters' and Walters' crossing is generally shit. Its the main reason I'm still not convinced about Assaidi, for a winger he does next to nothing in creating chances for others, great that he scores goals, but needs to be doing much more when he isn't. I agree. He's started to carry the ball better which is great and is turning into a genuine easy outlet in that sense but his crossing with his left in particular needs to; 1) happen 2) probably improve. His cross for the goal at the weekend is a good start but he still did his old trick of cutting in. He needs to realise he can't do that all of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 16:40:05 GMT
But blaming it on one player is completely wrong, what about Assaidi, his crossing has been amazing hasn't it. Walters is the scapegoat im sticking with the trend I liked this accidentally. I can't stress that enough.
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jan 8, 2014 16:40:10 GMT
So is crossing has been good? now that's rubbish It has actually been good. Nobody will admit it because anything good said about Walters is ripped into. Assaidi has only put in one or two decent crosses for us and yet it's Walters being singled out. He has his flaws but, in recent games, his crossing isn't one.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 8, 2014 16:47:44 GMT
So is crossing has been good? now that's rubbish It has actually been good. Nobody will admit it because anything good said about Walters is ripped into. Assaidi has only put in one or two decent crosses for us and yet it's Walters being singled out. He has his flaws but, in recent games, his crossing isn't one. Has it? I can remember one cross he tried against Leicester and it didn't beat the first man. I can't remember another time Walters has tried to cross it (at home) all season. Now I'm sure he has but I just can't remember them. The crossing on the right and indeed the team comes from Cameron, Walters tends to lay it off for him or take a defender with him (which is good play) and that allows Cameron the space to play into it. I'd love to see the stats actually as to how many cross they've all tried and succeeded with because barring Cameron, I'd imagine it's quite pathetic.
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Post by owdestokie on Jan 8, 2014 20:28:29 GMT
Never mind Walters.....Pennant is the answer
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jan 8, 2014 20:37:54 GMT
So is crossing has been good? now that's rubbish It has actually been good. Nobody will admit it because anything good said about Walters is ripped into. Assaidi has only put in one or two decent crosses for us and yet it's Walters being singled out. He has his flaws but, in recent games, his crossing isn't one. His crossing has been utter shite, nothing else
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Post by redstriper on Jan 8, 2014 20:50:33 GMT
Not surprising, if true. Few quality crosses coming into the box and, when there are, no-one on the pitch capable of attacking them properly. hmmm, are you not contradicting your usual Kenwynne arse licking agenda ? He has been on the pitch in premier games too you know...
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 8, 2014 20:58:11 GMT
On a balance of probabilities I'd have thought Ryan or Huth {when he returns} should nod one in soon. Can't remember the last time they got one on target. Typical Stoke making it hard for ourselves probably means the next headed goal will come courtesy of Ireland {the diminutive player not the country.} I thought Arnie had started sending the odd difficult looping corner across. Now Whelan's confidence is growing he can deliver a good corner ball. It is a bit of a mystery and a bugbear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 20:58:23 GMT
Walters is the scapegoat im sticking with the trend I liked this accidentally. I can't stress that enough. Press the like button again and magic happens.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 8, 2014 21:18:52 GMT
On another note, whilst Crouch isn't the most mobile of men and often resembles a baby giraffe rather than a praying mantis I don't think he gets much change from refs, whilst defenders are climbing all over him he gets penalised for impeding them because of his gangly stature. Frustrating.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jan 8, 2014 21:30:48 GMT
To purely put it down to one player is quite frankly laughable.
Our delivery from set pieces (Adam, Ireland, Arnie) has been pretty poor so we are not even giving the likes of Shawcros et al the chance to even miss opportunities. From open play, as said above, our delivery has been average at best. When we do put good balls in Crouch isn't sticking them away.
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