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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 5, 2014 19:08:30 GMT
Just shows what a top manager fergie was. They have a mid table squad. Moyes doesnot have the Refs in his pocket,yet.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2014 19:11:43 GMT
Because we played shite on the night in atrocious conditions. Why do some people revel in a Stoke defeat? No Pugsley, some of us are frustrated that we always come up short usually aided and abetted by a fairly lame performance. Some of remember when beating the likes of Manure was fairly routine. Fairly routine you say ? www.11v11.com/teams/stoke-city/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Manchester%20United
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Post by jarhead on Jan 5, 2014 19:35:17 GMT
What a bloody shame eh haha!
Just hope we don't bottle it AGAIN in a few weeks time and surrender against them WEAKLY!!!
Come on stoke lets bring those cockney twats to there knees the cunts!
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Jan 5, 2014 19:51:44 GMT
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Post by potter25 on Jan 5, 2014 19:51:44 GMT
Solskajaar going to Cardiff is auditioning for the united job...
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Jan 5, 2014 19:57:05 GMT
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Post by slicker on Jan 5, 2014 19:57:05 GMT
Noticed on t.v the green and yellow scarfs are starting to get an airing again.it's always funny watching the manure fire drill at the end of a home game defeat. 30,000 people out of a ground in 3 minutes takes some beating. . At least this sort of leaving in an orderly and efficient manner should help them retain their fire safety certificate.
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Jan 5, 2014 20:22:37 GMT
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Post by basingstokie on Jan 5, 2014 20:22:37 GMT
Man utd are jinxed in the fa cup, not winning it since boycotting it Fucking good I think you'll find they won it in 2004, beating Milwall in the final2-0 if I recall with Ronaldo having a blunder On the subject of Moyes, he is struggling, but I don't think Sir Alex left him the most healthy balanced squad. That said, his transfer activity in the summer was laughable, the midfield looks extremely light, Rio and Vidic, although once great are showing their age. Summer 2014 will be tough because Rooney's contract is up in 2015, so they either get him to sign a new one or cash in. Personally I'd sell him as I think it is their last chance to get decent cash for him and I can see him going downhill fast once his pace starts to fade. On the subject of Moyes, suspect he will get a couple of seasons at least. Not least because the 2 obvious candidates (Jose and Pep) have just taken over the clubs. That said, I see Ole there in the long term
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Jan 5, 2014 20:25:30 GMT
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 5, 2014 20:25:30 GMT
Man United have been a poor site for years, but they've always had a player to pull them out of the shit. Ronaldo, then Rooney (with a cameo year from Berbatov) for a few years then last season you had RVP who had the season of his life... so theyve managed to do well. Theyve always had n average squad on the whole with very limited number of world class players and if you are challenging for champs league and title medals you need at least 50% of you starting XI to be world class. Man U haven't had this since the days of Beckham,scholes, etc
This season two out of their 3 key players have struggled with injuries and it has shown. It isn't Moyes its fault, its Fergie not replacing the class of 92 with world class players. He had to call Scholes out of retirement because of this.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 5, 2014 20:37:25 GMT
Fergie letting Pogba go was a massive fuck up too. Instead of him and Januzaj to build on him they've got Cleverly instead. Major fuck up.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 5, 2014 21:17:03 GMT
Man utd are jinxed in the fa cup, not winning it since boycotting it Fucking good I think you'll find they won it in 2004, beating Milwall in the final2-0 if I recall with Ronaldo having a blunder On the subject of Moyes, he is struggling, but I don't think Sir Alex left him the most healthy balanced squad. That said, his transfer activity in the summer was laughable, the midfield looks extremely light, Rio and Vidic, although once great are showing their age. Summer 2014 will be tough because Rooney's contract is up in 2015, so they either get him to sign a new one or cash in. Personally I'd sell him as I think it is their last chance to get decent cash for him and I can see him going downhill fast once his pace starts to fade. On the subject of Moyes, suspect he will get a couple of seasons at least. Not least because the 2 obvious candidates (Jose and Pep) have just taken over the clubs. That said, I see Ole there in the long term forgot about that one Their record since boycotting hasn't been good though
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jan 5, 2014 22:20:25 GMT
I think Fergie left them in the mire just a bit , looking at them now , not many are really good enough for their standard
De Gea Rooney Van Persie Giggs now and then Maybe Jones
The rest are either a bit past it or not much better than squad players for that level , they really needed to sign some top players last summer
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Jan 5, 2014 22:36:01 GMT
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 5, 2014 22:36:01 GMT
I also think it does not help that TVs show Fergie at every Manure game this season. He's also a director at the club. So he's nut retired fully! He's casting a bloody shadow! Imagine if TP was director of football with us, while MH was manager? Exactly!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2014 0:07:03 GMT
great to see them struggling i hope they end up potless this season and out of the champions league. i think we have a very good chance of beating them at home in feb
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 6, 2014 0:28:34 GMT
Moyes is making a pigs ear of what should have been quite an easy job. I'm not saying following in Fergie's foorsteps is easy but with the squad he has there they should be doing much better than they are. Coupled with how well Martinez is doing with Everton it really shows Moyes in a bad light. If they don't finish top 4 he'll be a gonna for sure Once you get past Rooney and VP their squad isn't really all that great.
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Jan 6, 2014 0:33:09 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jan 6, 2014 0:33:09 GMT
I really think this is an opportunity for us to record three points against a team we're all desperate to beat. I'm actually looking forward to it
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2014 0:37:42 GMT
An ITK type scouser who I know well, has told me that Moyes is on the verge of cracking ...Resigning..! We could be talking very soon...
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Post by britsabroad on Jan 6, 2014 0:45:58 GMT
Man United have been a poor site for years, but they've always had a player to pull them out of the shit. Ronaldo, then Rooney (with a cameo year from Berbatov) for a few years then last season you had RVP who had the season of his life... so theyve managed to do well. Theyve always had n average squad on the whole with very limited number of world class players and if you are challenging for champs league and title medals you need at least 50% of you starting XI to be world class. Man U haven't had this since the days of Beckham,scholes, etc This season two out of their 3 key players have struggled with injuries and it has shown. It isn't Moyes its fault, its Fergie not replacing the class of 92 with world class players. He had to call Scholes out of retirement because of this. In the past 5 years: 3 league titles 2 league runners up 1 Champions League 2 Champions League runners up I really don't know why every clueless football fan in the nation keeps trotting the same rubbish out about having had a weak squad for years. You dont have that kind of success with an average squad.
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Post by kingstokie on Jan 6, 2014 0:50:26 GMT
An ITK type scouser who I know well, has told me that Moyes is on the verge of cracking ...Resigning..! We could be talking very soon... He's going nowhere till we beat 'em
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Jan 6, 2014 1:12:28 GMT
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Post by jarhead on Jan 6, 2014 1:12:28 GMT
Man United have been a poor site for years, but they've always had a player to pull them out of the shit. Ronaldo, then Rooney (with a cameo year from Berbatov) for a few years then last season you had RVP who had the season of his life... so theyve managed to do well. Theyve always had n average squad on the whole with very limited number of world class players and if you are challenging for champs league and title medals you need at least 50% of you starting XI to be world class. Man U haven't had this since the days of Beckham,scholes, etc This season two out of their 3 key players have struggled with injuries and it has shown. It isn't Moyes its fault, its Fergie not replacing the class of 92 with world class players. He had to call Scholes out of retirement because of this. In the past 5 years: 3 league titles 2 league runners up 1 Champions League 2 Champions League runners up I really don't know why every clueless football fan in the nation keeps trotting the same rubbish out about having had a weak squad for years. You dont have that kind of success with an average squad. These cunts have winners medals aswell though (below)don't forget after some of the most gutless spineless decisions those wankers have bottled to allow those cockney cunts win things that they never should of. Mike Riley Rob Styles Mark Halsey David Elleray Paul Durkin Howard Webb Mike dean Martin Atkinson Mark Clatenburg
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Post by britsabroad on Jan 6, 2014 7:09:02 GMT
In the past 5 years: 3 league titles 2 league runners up 1 Champions League 2 Champions League runners up I really don't know why every clueless football fan in the nation keeps trotting the same rubbish out about having had a weak squad for years. You dont have that kind of success with an average squad. These cunts have winners medals aswell though (below)don't forget after some of the most gutless spineless decisions those wankers have bottled to allow those cockney cunts win things that they never should of. Mike Riley Rob Styles Mark Halsey David Elleray Paul Durkin Howard Webb Mike dean Martin Atkinson Mark Clatenburg Had Mike Dean correctly ruled Drogba half a mile offside a few years ago it would be 4 league titles in 5 years...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2014 7:16:02 GMT
I for one am gutted that they are in decline, they are after all a British Institution, and to see them in such disarray is akin to the decline of our once great motor industry, that was once the pride of Europe and indeed the world....Come on Utd....Get back where you belong...you behemoths of football you.........10 Minutes later...Medicine worn off....HA HA HA HA...Red Devils my arse......Yr gonna win fuck all.....CUNTS...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2014 7:54:34 GMT
Man United have been a poor site for years, but they've always had a player to pull them out of the shit. Ronaldo, then Rooney (with a cameo year from Berbatov) for a few years then last season you had RVP who had the season of his life... so theyve managed to do well. Theyve always had n average squad on the whole with very limited number of world class players and if you are challenging for champs league and title medals you need at least 50% of you starting XI to be world class. Man U haven't had this since the days of Beckham,scholes, etc This season two out of their 3 key players have struggled with injuries and it has shown. It isn't Moyes its fault, its Fergie not replacing the class of 92 with world class players. He had to call Scholes out of retirement because of this. In the past 5 years: 3 league titles 2 league runners up 1 Champions League 2 Champions League runners up I really don't know why every clueless football fan in the nation keeps trotting the same rubbish out about having had a weak squad for years. You dont have that kind of success with an average squad. The last two titles won have been as much to do with Citeh's failures and Fergie's brilliance as the squad. By their standards they've had a desperately weak midfield for a while. Looking at their squad it's weaker than most of their rivals.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 6, 2014 9:46:07 GMT
Man their shite! don't have a identity in the middle welbeck and kagawa ugh... moyes is really feckin out of his depth... thier defense is shit. forwards as holding midfielders and strikers as wingers... he needs to build from the back their strikers are mint. Lescott transfer or our ryan me thinks.... watch the bstards.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Jan 6, 2014 10:01:12 GMT
They'd still be in the Cup if Ferguson was manager, simply because the ref would have ignored Fabio's challenge. Games are a lot easier when you play with 12 men.
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 6, 2014 10:15:09 GMT
Man United have been a poor site for years, but they've always had a player to pull them out of the shit. Ronaldo, then Rooney (with a cameo year from Berbatov) for a few years then last season you had RVP who had the season of his life... so theyve managed to do well. Theyve always had n average squad on the whole with very limited number of world class players and if you are challenging for champs league and title medals you need at least 50% of you starting XI to be world class. Man U haven't had this since the days of Beckham,scholes, etc This season two out of their 3 key players have struggled with injuries and it has shown. It isn't Moyes its fault, its Fergie not replacing the class of 92 with world class players. He had to call Scholes out of retirement because of this. In the past 5 years: 3 league titles 2 league runners up 1 Champions League 2 Champions League runners up I really don't know why every clueless football fan in the nation keeps trotting the same rubbish out about having had a weak squad for years. You dont have that kind of success with an average squad. without Ronaldo, Rooney and RVP last season they wouldn't have scored the goals to get them winning the matches that enabled tonwin those titles
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Jan 6, 2014 10:20:21 GMT
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Post by A-teen_six_T3 on Jan 6, 2014 10:20:21 GMT
Man United have been a poor site for years, but they've always had a player to pull them out of the shit. Ronaldo, then Rooney (with a cameo year from Berbatov) for a few years then last season you had RVP who had the season of his life... so theyve managed to do well. Theyve always had n average squad on the whole with very limited number of world class players and if you are challenging for champs league and title medals you need at least 50% of you starting XI to be world class. Man U haven't had this since the days of Beckham,scholes, etc This season two out of their 3 key players have struggled with injuries and it has shown. It isn't Moyes its fault, its Fergie not replacing the class of 92 with world class players. He had to call Scholes out of retirement because of this. In the past 5 years: 3 league titles 2 league runners up 1 Champions League 2 Champions League runners up I really don't know why every clueless football fan in the nation keeps trotting the same rubbish out about having had a weak squad for years. You dont have that kind of success with an average squad. at this stage last season RVP had got 20 goals, this season he's on (I think 10) you are not telling me that with those extra 10 goals united wouldn't be in a better position than they are now! of course they would. They are a 1 or 2 man team
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Post by miltonstokie on Jan 6, 2014 10:26:50 GMT
Im not sure who Alex Ferguson's worst signing was.
Veron or Moyes
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Post by britsabroad on Jan 6, 2014 11:44:40 GMT
In the past 5 years: 3 league titles 2 league runners up 1 Champions League 2 Champions League runners up I really don't know why every clueless football fan in the nation keeps trotting the same rubbish out about having had a weak squad for years. You dont have that kind of success with an average squad. without Ronaldo, Rooney and RVP last season they wouldn't have scored the goals to get them winning the matches that enabled tonwin those titles Without Messi, Barcelona wouldnt have scored all the goals that won them their titles either. Your point is?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 6, 2014 11:55:04 GMT
Their midfield is in a desperate state. They've basically got Carrick and Januzaj, that's it.
I like Cleverly but he's not Man Yoo class. Kagawa has just been dreadful. Anderson is fat. Fletcher could get back to where he was, Man Yoo need him to be. Valencia has turned into a better version of Walters, he used to be so good, now he's just meh. Nani just does nothing for me.
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Post by craig67 on Jan 6, 2014 12:21:56 GMT
How come they easily beat us then? Because we played shite on the night in atrocious conditions. Why do some people revel in a Stoke defeat? The same atrocious conditions they had to play in? Did we have a shot on target that night?? You are really showing yourself up as the numpty you are on this thread.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 6, 2014 12:25:35 GMT
Because we played shite on the night in atrocious conditions. Why do some people revel in a Stoke defeat? The same atrocious conditions they had to play in? Did we have a shot on target that night?? You are really showing yourself up as the numpty you are on this thread. They didn't though, that was the annoying thing. We were playing into a gale with rain, snow, hail, cats and dogs blowing in our faces. And then the second half came and it was all serene, proper annoying. We were wank though.
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