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Post by kevkj on Jan 2, 2014 8:31:34 GMT
Shocking to see all the red seats and there is only one reason for it the ridiculous way the club has implemented the membership scheme.
Everyone knows you get floaters wanting to go holiday games,i personally had 4 people asking me again if i could get tickets as i had in the past for them.
Explained about the memebership scheme and they said oh forget it then.
Great the way our club can turn down good money from floating supporters and visitors to the area.
I have said it before. everyone on the database should have been sent a card not have to apply,they are the customer.
HEADS SHOULD ROLL
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 8:42:36 GMT
I, and I'd imagine a lot didn't go due to the mixture of hangover and bad weather  You are right about the floating supporters tho |
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Post by sportsman on Jan 2, 2014 8:43:29 GMT
Another poor thing from the club. Should give them away at the moment to schools, anything. or 5 a ticket with season ticket holder.
Major fuck up by the club
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Jan 2, 2014 8:59:09 GMT
Plenty of people with season tickets can't go everygame.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 2, 2014 9:24:01 GMT
They used to
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Post by jeycov on Jan 2, 2014 10:04:01 GMT
I agree re inviting schools / junior clubs to games where seats are available.
Attending in school holidays is still a problem though
Lack of public transport was an issue yesterday
Re the "floating' supporters, anyone determined enough to come and see a game should be able to get it sorted imo.
Re the club doing even more, then maybe there should be a sales point allocated for supporters wanting to get into the system.
e.g. It could be open 12 - 1 for these fans to get sorted.
After 1pm, staffing resources to return to those who have organised their tickets
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 10:13:15 GMT
Plenty of people with season tickets can't go everygame. There's a damned sight more who can't afford to go....next year the same but slightly worse. |
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Post by kevkj on Jan 2, 2014 10:17:28 GMT
Jeycov whether they want to make the effort is irrespective.Its the clubs job to make it as easy as possible for those not as keen as others. .
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 2, 2014 10:56:40 GMT
Shocking to see all the red seats and there is only one reason for it the ridiculous way the club has implemented the membership scheme. Everyone knows you get floaters wanting to go holiday games,i personally had 4 people asking me again if i could get tickets as i had in the past for them. Explained about the memebership scheme and they said oh forget it then. Great the way our club can turn down good money from floating supporters and visitors to the area. I have said it before. everyone on the database should have been sent a card not have to apply,they are the customer. HEADS SHOULD ROLL But where are all the people who said they would come abck when Pulis went/ Still staying away it seems |
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 2, 2014 11:06:55 GMT
I think it's half economic and holidays and half expectations... I remember Norwich at home having more fans but be also expected to win quite easily...  Fans are more fickle in paying massive amounts of money to see drubbings maybe? |
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Post by slicker on Jan 2, 2014 13:19:26 GMT
It's just economics,if your struggling on a minimum wage to make ends meet, cloth and feed kids and pay bills, then 40 quid for a ticket is going to be well at the bottom of the list of lifes priorities.the scales have tipped and large numbers of people are either unable or unwilling to pay stupid prices to watch millionaire footballers. Not just Stoke, look at any ground in the perm and empty seats are becoming the norm.maybe the answer could be bi monthly season tickets for all empty seats, 80 quid for four games
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2014 13:21:47 GMT
The crowd was 25,800odd, I thought it'd be less than that after seeing the seats.
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Post by Meggsy on Jan 2, 2014 13:24:45 GMT
Don't forget we have fans who travel from all over the uk.
Sunday service transport or non at all and also factor in being over the limit to drive will of course put people off.
I don't think the crowd was that bad.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 2, 2014 13:33:45 GMT
I don't care about transport and every other excuse. If they live a distance away fine but for me the club should be doing every deal possible at the moment to get a full house. Bring a guest for a pound would do me at the moment. A full ground encourages a better atmosphere. Coates said that himself
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 13:48:45 GMT
Shocking to see all the red seats and there is only one reason for it the ridiculous way the club has implemented the membership scheme. Everyone knows you get floaters wanting to go holiday games,i personally had 4 people asking me again if i could get tickets as i had in the past for them. Explained about the memebership scheme and they said oh forget it then. Great the way our club can turn down good money from floating supporters and visitors to the area. I have said it before. everyone on the database should have been sent a card not have to apply,they are the customer. HEADS SHOULD ROLL Just seen this after posting a little earlier on the Leiceester Sold Out thread. If I knew how, I would post a link to it but as I don't here's the text again, copied & pasted: I know there are people on here who will slap me down for this, but they'd be wrong [ ] One of the reasons for our empty seats every week this season, and which is even worse for cup games, is Stoke's idiotic policy of not selling tickets. They have made it too hard for people to obtain tickets for the odd game. A mate of mine asked if I'd be able to get 5 tickets for the Leicester game, it's his birthday & he fancies some pre & post-match atmosphere in the Sutherland Arms and others. I explained to him that as 3 of his party, including him, were over 65 (we're a bunch of old farts) and one, the grandson of one of his mates, was under 11, I would need copies of the driving licences of the over-65s and the birth certificate of the under 11. I would also need the address & date of birth of the one person that was neither over 65 or under 11. Needless to say they thought I'd gone bloody crackers but I had to explain that it was Stoke City FC that is mad, not me. Having obtained copies of all this information I turned up at the ticket office on Monday of this week and took my place in a very small queue where I waited three quarters of an hour to reach the window. Why the long wait? The fact that only 2 windows were open didn't help but the principle reason was that almost every one of the half a dozen punters in front of me wanted tickets for non-members and they were stuggling to provide the necessary information. At least 2 of them walked away without purchasing any tickets muttering that they wouldn't be coming back, I hope they didn't mean it but they probably did. The others eventually got their tickets but not before they, and the poor guys serving them (who are not to blame for the policy) had gone through an unbelievable amount of grief to get the new members' information into the system. When I eventually reached the window my transaction to buy 5 tickets at a total cost of £35 took almost 20 minutes, as the queue built up behind. Not many people can be bothered, and even less have the time, to go to the trouble that I went to on Monday (and in gathering all the necessary information beforehand) and that is why I am absolutely certain that this mad policy is directly responsible for thousands of empty seats every week and if Peter Coates realised what was going on heads would roll. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/224607/leicester-sold-out#ixzz2pFU6rmI2 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 13:53:15 GMT
Most people who've replied to this thread haven't read the original post. Whilst there are obviously many factors (holidays, the opposition, the weather, the economic climate and so on ad infinitum) the problem identified by the OP is the idiotic decision not to sell tickets to home fans. The OP is correct in my view, based on my experience of buying Leicester tickets for some friends.
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Post by kevkj on Jan 2, 2014 13:58:36 GMT
Absolute joke i informed the clubs previously of my thoughts and the fans council but nothing has changed.
Just send a card to everyone who has a history on the database would be a good start.
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Post by werrington on Jan 2, 2014 14:37:24 GMT
The novelty had worn off
Add to that the attritional football on display for the last 3 years and peoples backs finally broke
Nothing to do with ticketing
They aren't all like us
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Post by starkiller on Jan 2, 2014 14:39:39 GMT
Absolute joke i informed the clubs previously of my thoughts and the fans council but nothing has changed. Just send a card to everyone who has a history on the database would be a good start. Whilst I think sending out a card is a major start, the booking process itself will be beyond many of the older generation (particularly those without family to help). There will still be many seats and many folk excluded, even if they send out cards. These are folk used to paying on the gate. And rightly so. Why does a club need to know every fucking detail about someone before letting them through the gate to watch a game of football? The stadium is a pain to get to as it is, without the added and unnecessary inconveniences. Pay on the gate, for fuck's sake. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 2, 2014 14:42:02 GMT
If you think there were a lot of empty seat against Everton wait until Leicester on Saturday.
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Post by M on Jan 2, 2014 14:52:59 GMT
I don't buy in to this new system being why. Economic factors heavily influence this area. With such a large number of young boys and girls both unemployed (or on low/zero hour contracts) and not in education; coupled with generally low paid jobs in the locality this leaves a huge inactive base that can't and isn't filling the heads who have stopped going for various reasons. I've heard a few:
- Can't afford
- Newborn child
- Child access after separation
- People who didn't renew because of football style and didn't get overly excited about the MH appointment
- The glory hunters who came after promotion and have lost interest
People need to accept that we aren't a massive club in an affluent area and would struggle to sell out without something to 'cheer' about. PC and MH need to stimulate the 'part time' and 'glory hunting' fans back if we want to see sell outs again.
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Post by philb on Jan 2, 2014 15:04:42 GMT
We're 2000 down every game because of the poor football over the past 1.5 seasons. People had had enough and weren't prepared to pay for something that wasn't enjoyable. Simple as that really. Ive already heard a few season ticket holders around me moaning and saying it's no different than football under Pulis and they might not renew next season! Worrying times!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 2, 2014 15:10:33 GMT
I think it's clear the new system doesn't help because there are too many cases/stories where people are just walking away not buying tickets. It's one of the reasons, amongst many.
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Post by hantsstokie on Jan 2, 2014 15:14:39 GMT
We didn't come because of atrocious weather conditions. A round Journey of 400miles is no fun even in good conditions. Lots of people in the same boat! Excuse the pun!!!
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Post by jeycov on Jan 2, 2014 15:20:25 GMT
Maybe fans would find the club shops (including Hanley) an easier point to get "help / advice" if this is needed.
The club could promote this, with their staff being able to help process the ticket application.
The more opportunities to register the better, but at the end of the day, some effort is now required to get a ticket to a match as paying at the gate is not an option
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 20:33:15 GMT
I don't buy in to this new system being why. Economic factors heavily influence this area. With such a large number of young boys and girls both unemployed (or on low/zero hour contracts) and not in education; coupled with generally low paid jobs in the locality this leaves a huge inactive base that can't and isn't filling the heads who have stopped going for various reasons. I've heard a few: - Can't afford - Newborn child - Child access after separation - People who didn't renew because of football style and didn't get overly excited about the MH appointment - The glory hunters who came after promotion and have lost interest People need to accept that we aren't a massive club in an affluent area and would struggle to sell out without something to 'cheer' about. PC and MH need to stimulate the 'part time' and 'glory hunting' fans back if we want to see sell outs again. You don't buy into it? I guess you haven't tried buying a ticket for a friend or family member over 65 or under 11 then. And these by the way are only a fiver each so I don't buy into the economic argument. |
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Post by harryburrows on Jan 2, 2014 20:53:34 GMT
I, and I'd imagine a lot didn't go due to the mixture of hangover and bad weather You are right about the floating supporters tho O yeh I forgot watching stoke in the cold , getting wet with a hangover never happens , some people just can't get there fat arses off the sofa  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 21:21:02 GMT
I, and I'd imagine a lot didn't go due to the mixture of hangover and bad weather You are right about the floating supporters tho O yeh I forgot watching stoke in the cold , getting wet with a hangover never happens , some people just can't get there fat arses off the sofa I aggree Harry I'll see you at the Leicester game this Saturday then yeh? |
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Post by harryburrows on Jan 2, 2014 21:40:01 GMT
O yeh I forgot watching stoke in the cold , getting wet with a hangover never happens , some people just can't get there fat arses off the sofa I aggree Harry I'll see you at the Leicester game this Saturday then yeh? Be there in spirit  P.S. AGREE |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2014 21:44:20 GMT
I aggree Harry I'll see you at the Leicester game this Saturday then yeh? Be there in spirit P.S. AGREE Excuse my Slow fingers |
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Fans are more fickle in paying massive amounts of money to see drubbings maybe? 
