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Post by slother on Dec 30, 2013 21:19:33 GMT
Of our best signings, obviously :-* Haha I don't think you can knock the free punts on youngsters too hard, to be honest. Without the resources to get real quality throughout a 25 man squad aren't many of these players just training fodder for a hardcore of maybe 16 players likely to get a game. And if they turn out good, it's a bonus. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:20:50 GMT
Best,Bego, Worst, Collins. Also too many who haven,t made any impact, Ness, Palacios,etc.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:21:48 GMT
Of our best signings, obviously  Haha I don't think you can knock the free punts on youngsters too hard, to be honest. Without the resources to get real quality throughout a 25 man squad aren't many of these players just training fodder for a hardcore of maybe 16 players likely to get a game. And if they turn out good, it's a bonus. Fair point mate, threads like this get me reminiscing about players who i'd forgotten were ever actually here, so i was just typing out loud really. |
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Post by adi on Dec 30, 2013 21:22:56 GMT
Bego
Palacios
Arismendi
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:23:22 GMT
Owen signing must have been to raise Bet365 and Stoke's profile. I'm sure he earned more from punditry than playing I think it was more that TP couldn't resist signing big names. Michael Owen's star had hugely faded by the time he joined us and it's hard to see what impact if any it had on our profile. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:25:17 GMT
Owen signing must have been to raise Bet365 and Stoke's profile. I'm sure he earned more from punditry than playing If he was as rumoured on pay as you play he would have earned more on job seekers. |
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Post by slother on Dec 30, 2013 21:25:48 GMT
Haha I don't think you can knock the free punts on youngsters too hard, to be honest. Without the resources to get real quality throughout a 25 man squad aren't many of these players just training fodder for a hardcore of maybe 16 players likely to get a game. And if they turn out good, it's a bonus. Fair point mate, threads like this get me reminiscing about players who i'd forgotten were ever actually here, so i was just typing out loud really. I'm not picking on you - anyone who mentioned Ness, Edu et al should take heed and realise that my analysis of their role within the club is superior to theirs. |
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Post by digger on Dec 30, 2013 21:30:40 GMT
Crouch - best? 10m for a 31 year old ill-suited to our team? Do me a favour. I'll go with your other "Bests", most of your worsts, although Palacios is starting to make a case this season to be eased off that list. Strangest have to be include Davies - 1m to Southampton for a defender we never played, so young Ant could go the other way - and Arismendi - just who the hell saw a Premier League player in him and sanctioned a 3.5m fee? Owen was another utterly pointless deal, destined for failure, as was Gudjohnsen. What were that pair thinking of signing for Pulis? In all honesty, I was trying to make a point to all the rimmers regarding Pulis's signings, I was clutching at straws with Crouch but at least he has contributed something to the cause, not really his fault the capped one spent far to much securing his services. The capped one had nothing to do with negotiating the price of any stoke playes. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:31:47 GMT
Fair point mate, threads like this get me reminiscing about players who i'd forgotten were ever actually here, so i was just typing out loud really. I'm not picking on you - anyone who mentioned Ness, Edu et al should take heed and realise that my analysis of their role within the club is superior to theirs. Is that not the role of the academy players ?, rather than seasoned pro's on a fairly expensive wedge week in week out. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:33:29 GMT
In all honesty, I was trying to make a point to all the rimmers regarding Pulis's signings, I was clutching at straws with Crouch but at least he has contributed something to the cause, not really his fault the capped one spent far to much securing his services. The capped one had nothing to do with negotiating the price of any stoke playes. Really? I find it hard to believe he wasn't involved at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:33:34 GMT
In all honesty, I was trying to make a point to all the rimmers regarding Pulis's signings, I was clutching at straws with Crouch but at least he has contributed something to the cause, not really his fault the capped one spent far to much securing his services. The capped one had nothing to do with negotiating the price of any stoke playes. So we sacked the wrong man then  oh my god what has PC done  |
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Post by slother on Dec 30, 2013 21:42:19 GMT
I'm not picking on you - anyone who mentioned Ness, Edu et al should take heed and realise that my analysis of their role within the club is superior to theirs. Is that not the role of the academy players ?, rather than seasoned pro's on a fairly expensive wedge week in week out. No, I don't think so. I don't think they are yet of the knowledge to provide a useful standard of competition. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:45:35 GMT
Is that not the role of the academy players ?, rather than seasoned pro's on a fairly expensive wedge week in week out. No, I don't think so. I don't think they are yet of the knowledge to provide a useful standard of competition. Fair point, maybe it would have been cheaper to loan a few players from Leek Town every week for training duties about the same sort of standard in reality as Edu etc. |
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Post by slother on Dec 30, 2013 21:46:56 GMT
Yehah, or my Gran's always looking for something to do!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:48:57 GMT
In relation to the aforementioned Danny Collins, i'd say he was up there as one of the worst for me purely because i never took to the guy. Strange and unreasonable as it may be, there was just something i didn't like about him. The realisation that he was an average at best footballer would maybe provoke my scorn but notwithstanding that, from his debut at The Brit' where he ran towards the corner where The Boothen and The Seddon' link and did an extremely half hearted "clap" gesture for a millisecond as he received applause from the fans, i just couldn't take to the fella. How totally unreasonable perhaps but you know when the players names are read out over the PA pre-match? He's the only player in recent years who i've ever given a very lacklustre "wahey" to. Even if it's a player who i don't rate i still give it some beans with a "WAHEY!" but not Collins, NOT Collins, NEVER COLLINS! For Brazil he should play, pft! Rubbish he was. Talking of players i don't like, Dave Kitson, he can sod off an' all  I understand why he was signed, we needed a striker in our first season who had experience of scoring goals at this level and he had scored 10 in this previous season for Reading. Not an amazing tally but he was a good player for them and he was pushing for an England call-up at that time too. He never fitted in off the pitch and he made it clear, he was bloody awful on the pitch scoring a mighty 0 goals in his first season for us and every game he looked as disinterested as he could be. Never read the game, always ran in areas where he'd never get the ball or be a threat and just looked like he'd rather be anywhere else. He made it clear in the press that he wasn't happy here, fair do's to an extent but ixnay on the being a dick-ay! £5.5m this puddin' cost us and we as supporters still stuck with him, second season in he was still crap yet we sang his name and encouraged him. All for what eh? Bugger all is what. Secret footballer? Yeah, he kept it a secret very well during his time here. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 21:53:46 GMT
In relation to the aforementioned Danny Collins, i'd say he was up there as one of the worst for me purely because i never took to the guy. Strange and unreasonable as it may be, there was just something i didn't like about him. The realisation that he was an average at best footballer would maybe provoke my scorn but notwithstanding that, from his debut at The Brit' where he ran towards the corner where The Boothen and The Seddon' link and did an extremely half hearted "clap" gesture for a millisecond as he received applause from the fans, i just couldn't take to the fella. How totally unreasonable perhaps but you know when the players names are read out over the PA pre-match? He's the only player in recent years who i've ever given a very lacklustre "wahey" to. Even if it's a player who i don't rate i still give it some beans with a "WAHEY!" but not Collins, NOT Collins, NEVER COLLINS! For Brazil he should play, pft! Rubbish he was. Talking of players i don't like, Dave Kitson, he can sod off an' all I understand why he was signed, we needed a striker in our first season who had experience of scoring goals at this level and he had scored 10 in this previous season for Reading. Not an amazing tally but he was a good player for them and he was pushing for an England call-up at that time too. He never fitted in off the pitch and he made it clear, he was bloody awful on the pitch scoring a mighty 0 goals in his first season for us and every game he looked as disinterested as he could be. Never read the game, always ran in areas where he'd never get the ball or be a threat and just looked like he'd rather be anywhere else. He made it clear in the press that he wasn't happy here, fair do's to an extent but ixnay on the being a dick-ay! £5.5m this puddin' cost us and we as supporters still stuck with him, second season in he was still crap yet we sang his name and encouraged him. All for what eh? Bugger all is what. Secret footballer? Yeah, he kept it a secret very well during his time here. He was also ginger to boot (sorry TC you are also ginger but a legend) |
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Post by malteser68 on Dec 30, 2013 23:35:45 GMT
Smajl Suljevic, Florent Cuvelier & Jamie Ness are three more. Three more what? strange and stupid signings |
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Post by RichardTMP on Dec 30, 2013 23:46:41 GMT
Best - Beattie
Strangest - Camara
Worst - Kitson
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Post by metalhead on Dec 31, 2013 0:24:42 GMT
Best:
Sorenson, Faye, Beattie, Huth, Etherington, Begovic, Cameron. All of which are pretty self-explanatory in my opinion.
Worst:
Kitson, Sonko. Both made a reasonable number of appearances, yet both shared this incredible knack of being totally immobile. I've never seen a defender turn as slow as Sonko, it was like he was shifting a fucking wardrobe and Kitson was just slow in general.
Strangest (all need individual explanations):
Tongue - The guy was about 26 when we signed him, undoubtedly in the prime of his career... yep, his prime... for Sheffield United... in the Championship, so why the fuck we signed him I'll never understand. No idea what question he was supposed to answer really.
Soares - Seemed to have potential yet we never persevered with the guy, that said his career has nose dived since signing for us, so perhaps he wasn't all he was cracked up to be.
Carew - Answering another question that didn't need to be answered.
I think we are all being a bit harsh on Ness. Sure, he's fallen off the face of the earth, but the guy is 22 and must have some potential otherwise Hughes would have let the kid go. Perhaps we'll see him next season eh?
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Post by Bombus on Dec 31, 2013 0:31:35 GMT
Best: Most probably Asmir Begovic - who is now one of the very best goalkeepers in the world of football. Worst: I'd pick Diego Arismendi in all honesty. Not the best signing, even though he had a great game in Balenthia back in 2011! (  ) Most strange: Maurice Edu. City til I die |
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Post by peadar87 on Dec 31, 2013 2:34:27 GMT
I don't think Danny Pugh belongs on the worst signings list. Decent player, and was usually solid when he got near the first team. He's not Salif effing Diao anyway!
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Post by upthefud on Dec 31, 2013 3:01:56 GMT
I dread to think where we'd be with Abdoulaye Faye.
Best individual season I've witnessed.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 31, 2013 6:03:16 GMT
Best: Faye, Beattie, Etherington, Sorenson - because without them we'd have gone straight back down.
Worst: Sonko, Collins, Arismendi, Davies
Strangest : Edu, Tuncay (based on Pulis having no idea what to do with him considering how much he paid for him)
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 31, 2013 7:52:21 GMT
Thee are so many names that can be mentioned for each category, but I'll go for the following:
Best- Begovic. Considering the fee we paid(about £3 million wasn't it?) and the impact he's had, plus the fact that we could now ask at least five times that amount for him, I think he has to be #1.
Worst- There have been worse players, but £8 million for Palacios was, is and always will be a complete disaster.
Strangest- The Andrew Davies deal stunk of something very fishy. £1.5m for a bloke who never plays, and little Ant gets a contract elsewhere, despite being Sunday League standard. Hmmmmmm.
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 31, 2013 9:28:32 GMT
I don't think Danny Pugh belongs on the worst signings list. Decent player, and was usually solid when he got near the first team. He's not Salif effing Diao anyway! We didn't sign Pugh in the Prem anyway |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 31, 2013 9:29:05 GMT
Strangest - I will go for the continued secret renewals on Tonge's contract.
Best - Abdoulaye. We would have gone down without him (with honourable mention for Tommy for similar reasons)
Worst - Arisimendi.
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Post by peadar87 on Dec 31, 2013 17:24:14 GMT
I don't think Danny Pugh belongs on the worst signings list. Decent player, and was usually solid when he got near the first team. He's not Salif effing Diao anyway! We didn't sign Pugh in the Prem anyway Right you are. My three would be: Best: Abdoulaye Diagne Faye. A true colossus! Worst: Nothing on the level of Massimo Taibi, mainly just wastes of money. Arismendi perhaps Strangest: Repeatedly extending Salif Diao's contract and then actually letting him go on the pitch |
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Post by kingstokie on Dec 31, 2013 17:27:39 GMT
Woodgate. I totally forgot he played for us/existed until he came up in conversation before the Villa game.
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Post by Stoke711 on Dec 31, 2013 17:27:41 GMT
Smajl Suljevic, Florent Cuvelier & Jamie Ness are three more. Add Ben Marshall to that |
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