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Post by spongebobflathead on Dec 23, 2013 21:08:18 GMT
Carragher and Neville having a bit of a ding dong on sky , what do you reckon ?
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 23, 2013 21:09:12 GMT
Everybody should man up and remember the game should be played by men.
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Post by kingstokie on Dec 23, 2013 21:11:04 GMT
Yellow card, at most
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 23, 2013 21:11:29 GMT
Everybody should man up and remember the game should be played by men. Nothing manly about going over the top and deliberately trying to 'do' and opponent. Cowardly if you ask me.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 23, 2013 21:11:47 GMT
It looked like an accident to me but of course being on an Arsenal player it was quite clearly blatant attempted murder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2013 21:12:20 GMT
Never a red, that was as honest a challenge from two players that you can get, start getting reds for tackles like that and your just taking the competitive edge out of the game even more.
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Post by Davef on Dec 23, 2013 21:15:02 GMT
Rosicky's thigh high foul on Aspilawotshisname was worse than that.
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Post by jbstokie on Dec 23, 2013 21:16:28 GMT
Watching it live I thought Arteta was going to sent off because of the camera angle. Its either a 50/50 and nothing is given or its a red to both.
Red cards have nothing to do with who gets to the ball, its all about whether you're in control of the tackle or not.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 23, 2013 21:22:23 GMT
Nice lunge by ramires on arteta. Wish his fucking leg would go so it was someone else's turn to take the flack from whinger wenger.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Dec 23, 2013 21:25:03 GMT
If a Stoke player would have made the same challenge that Ramirez has just made, it would have been a sending off without any doubt in my mind. The excuses that the commentators have made were quite unbelievable. Pffft, against Wenger too.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 23, 2013 21:27:53 GMT
Everybody should man up and remember the game should be played by men. Nothing manly about going over the top and deliberately trying to 'do' and opponent. Cowardly if you ask me. It was a 50/50 though and he didnt look like he was trying to do anyone to me though Pugs.
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Post by primmerz on Dec 23, 2013 21:28:12 GMT
Can't believe they spent so long discussing and slowing the tackle down 100 times, it was a 50/50 tackle and it should have been left at that but they continued to go over it
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Post by Clem Fandango on Dec 23, 2013 21:29:18 GMT
Nice lunge by ramires on arteta. Wish his fucking leg would go so it was someone else's turn to take the flack from whinger wenger. Out of the two challenges that one looked more like a red than the mikel one
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 23, 2013 21:32:58 GMT
Nothing manly about going over the top and deliberately trying to 'do' and opponent. Cowardly if you ask me. It was a 50/50 though and he didnt look like he was trying to do anyone to me though Pugs. I'm talking in general. Personally I thought Mikel (who's a dirty get) was reckless and lucky to get away with it.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 23, 2013 21:37:20 GMT
Mikel was lucky yes to get away with that
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 23, 2013 21:52:56 GMT
Never a red.
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Post by SidibeGod on Dec 23, 2013 22:02:37 GMT
Carragher is a prize plonker. It comes to something when there's 15 minutes of debate about a nothing challenge at half time just because the game of football itself didn't live up to expectations.
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Post by oggyoggy on Dec 23, 2013 22:03:13 GMT
ref was brilliant in this game - man of the match. never a red
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 23, 2013 22:10:43 GMT
Rosicky's thigh high foul on Aspilawotshisname was worse than that. Agreed he didn't even get booked for that
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 23, 2013 22:55:37 GMT
Can anyone remember the 70s ?
I can't remember ever coming away from a game talking about who should or shouldn't have been sent off?
And there was some proper dangerous tackles then too!
When did all this shit start?
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Dec 23, 2013 23:09:21 GMT
can't believe the amount of play acting in that game. absolutely disgraceful. no wonder refs have a hard time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2013 23:10:56 GMT
If one of them gets sent off for that, they both have to get sent off. They both fly in with studs showing in a not so clever way of tackling. They both go for the tackle in the same way, one of them wins, one of them loses so one of them got hit, that's how tackles generally work. Arteta can't whinge.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 24, 2013 7:14:38 GMT
I might be hazy but to my mind it was very similar of the shawcross ramsey incident other than the fact that ramsey got badly injured both players going 100% eyes on the ball but one just a fraction quicker than the other and when that happens it can look bad, thankfully arteta just has a bruise
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 9:34:08 GMT
Don't see why it was such a talking point at half time or now to be honest. Two committed players going in one footed,sliding for a 50-50 ball? Someone or both of them are always likely to come out of those challenges with a knock,does that mean that it was a red card for either? Does it frig.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2013 11:40:11 GMT
ref was brilliant in this game - man of the match. never a red Thought he was dog shite because he should have fished out a yellow or three a long long time before he actually did. Didn't give arsenal a penalty 'glad he didn't' which was as nailed on as you'll see, and if no penalty then he should have booked the arsenal player for diving. Unfortunately he did nothing at all except wave play on.
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Post by werrington on Dec 24, 2013 12:12:34 GMT
Was this the same ref who sent off Wilko ( at Portsmouth ) and Whitehead ( home to Spurs ) for 4 innocuous yellow cards ?
Yep that's him
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Post by rawli on Dec 24, 2013 13:03:36 GMT
Can anyone remember the 70s ? I can't remember ever coming away from a game talking about who should or shouldn't have been sent off? And there was some proper dangerous tackles then too! When did all this shit start? When they decided that kicking the most skillful players out of the game was shit. Do you really want to go back to that? While we're at it, let's have shit-tip pitches, back passes so you can sit on a 1-0 lead for the last half hour, 2 points for a win and riots on the terraces.
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Post by werrington on Dec 24, 2013 14:23:43 GMT
Can anyone remember the 70s ? I can't remember ever coming away from a game talking about who should or shouldn't have been sent off? And there was some proper dangerous tackles then too! When did all this shit start? When they decided that kicking the most skillful players out of the game was shit. Do you really want to go back to that? While we're at it, let's have shit-tip pitches, back passes so you can sit on a 1-0 lead for the last half hour, 2 points for a win and riots on the terraces. Throw in the £1 admission money and you have a winner there rawli That would be great
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