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Post by lordb on Dec 15, 2013 15:40:15 GMT
Put two Stokies in a phone box and you've got an argument. no you haven't.... to be fair I suppose I'm not arguing merely contradicting
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Post by jonnynico on Dec 15, 2013 15:45:22 GMT
Put two Stokies in a phone box and you've got an argument. go find your own phone box, this one's ours
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 15:45:22 GMT
I actually got my info by using google and looking at the Premier League rule on loans. I didn't look it up in a particularly serious manner, I just had a few seconds to spare, if that helps! It doesn't matter realy, I was just saying what I thought because of what was posted, as I said I don't know, lets leave it there hey. merry xmas ps I could be wrong again but have everton got 3 players on loan or did they sign one of them. One of their loan players is from Barcelona and foreign loans have different rules. A foreign loan is treated as if it was a season long transfer I think.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 15:50:34 GMT
Put two Stokies in a phone box and you've got an argument. go find your own phone box, this one's ours Boom boom Mr Derek.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 16:51:26 GMT
Didn't Olofinjana play for Hull against us while on loan from us? Either I'm mistaken or they've changed the rule since.
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Post by Davef on Dec 15, 2013 16:53:55 GMT
Didn't Olofinjana play for Hull against us while on loan from us? Either I'm mistaken or they've changed the rule since. We sold Olofinjana to Hull.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 16:56:01 GMT
I didn't expect this thread to last for more than 2 posts let alone 2 pages. The Oatcake delivers once more
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 15, 2013 17:57:13 GMT
If Villa don't rate him,why wont they let him play against them?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 17:59:22 GMT
Steven Ireland can play against Villa.
Some of you lot should read the rule book.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 18:25:41 GMT
Steven Ireland can play against Villa. Some of you lot should read the rule book. Oh no he can't. He's behind you.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 18:31:17 GMT
Steven Ireland can play against Villa. Some of you lot should read the rule book. I have read it, and section 7.2 of rule M.6 clearly says he can't play next Saturday whilst he is on loan.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 15, 2013 18:35:57 GMT
Perhaps we could play him in disguise?
Maybe a dreadlocked ponytail and he'd pass as Kenwyne. Unless he scored....that would definitely blow his cover.
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 15, 2013 18:37:25 GMT
Steven Ireland can play against Villa. Some of you lot should read the rule book. I'll bet you he doesn't....
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 18:42:24 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 18:44:14 GMT
Steven Ireland can play against Villa. Some of you lot should read the rule book. Temporary Transfer V.5. A “Temporary Transfer” shall mean the transfer of a contract registration effected in accordance with Rules V.6 to V.10. M.5 V.6. Subject to the conditions set out below, a Temporary Transfer shall be permitted: V.6.1. between Clubs; and V.6.2. between a Club and a club in membership of the Football League, the Football Conference, the Northern Premier League, the Isthmian League and the Southern League. M.6 V.7. The conditions referred to in Rule V.6 are: V.7.1. a Temporary Transfer to a Club may not take place in the Transfer Window in which the Transferor Club acquired the Player’s registration; V.7.2. during the period of the Temporary Transfer of his contract registration a Player shall not play against the Transferor Club;V.7.3. if during the period of a Temporary Transfer the Player’s registration is transferred permanently from the Transferor Club to the Transferee Club, the two Clubs may agree in writing (to be copied to the League) that the Player shall not play against the Transferor Club for the remainder of the Season; V.7.4. subject to any conditions imposed by the Board in the exercise of its discretion under Rule V.4.2, the minimum period of a Temporary Transfer shall be the period between 2 consecutive Transfer Windows and the period of a Temporary Transfer shall not extend beyond 30th June next after it was entered into; V.7.5. the maximum number of Temporary Transfers to any one Club registrable in the same Season shall be 4 and in no circumstances shall more than 1 be from the same Transferor Club save there shall be excluded from these numbers any Temporary Transfer of the kind described in V.7.6.1 or V.7.6.2; M.7 180 I am that sad bastard.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 18:44:25 GMT
Seriously, Steven Ireland can play against Aston Villa.
It is pretty much common knowledge.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 18:50:30 GMT
Seriously, Steven Ireland can play against Aston Villa. It is pretty much common knowledge. Common knowledge where? On here? I hope he is but the Premier League Rule Book tends to suggest otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 18:51:13 GMT
Seriously, Steven Ireland can play against Aston Villa. It is pretty much common knowledge. Common knowledge where? On here? I hope he is but the Premier League Rule Book tends to suggest otherwise. I've read the rules and understand them totally but they don't apply to Steven Ireland do they?
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 15, 2013 18:52:34 GMT
Common knowledge where? On here? I hope he is but the Premier League Rule Book tends to suggest otherwise. I've read the rules and understand them totally but they don't apply to Steven Ireland do they? I can't see the 'Steven Ireland is excluded' clause anywhere.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 18:52:58 GMT
Common knowledge where? On here? I hope he is but the Premier League Rule Book tends to suggest otherwise. I've read the rules and understand them totally but they don't apply to Steven Ireland do they? Why don't they? Is he someone special?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 18:53:42 GMT
Common knowledge where? On here? I hope he is but the Premier League Rule Book tends to suggest otherwise. I've read the rules and understand them totally but they don't apply to Steven Ireland do they? Why not? He's a straight forward loanee/temporary transfer isn't he? If not what's the difference?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 18:54:23 GMT
I've read the rules and understand them totally but they don't apply to Steven Ireland do they? Why don't they? Is he someone special? Why not? He's a straight forward loanee/temporary transfer isn't he? If not what's the difference? No but Stephen Ireland is, the lad who we have on loan from Villa. The other lad we're talking about, Steven Ireland, is totally exempt from the rules. Ho ho ho. Merry Christmas.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 18:56:37 GMT
Why don't they? Is he someone special? Why not? He's a straight forward loanee/temporary transfer isn't he? If not what's the difference? No but Stephen Ireland is, the lad who we have on loan from Villa. The other lad we're talking about, Steven Ireland, is totally exempt from the rules. Ho ho ho. Merry Christmas. Very funny - but as a joke it is flawed, because there is no Steven Ireland eligible to play against Villa in the Premier League next Saturday.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 18:56:49 GMT
Why don't they? Is he someone special? Why not? He's a straight forward loanee/temporary transfer isn't he? If not what's the difference? No but Stephen Ireland is, the lad who we have on loan from Villa. The other lad we're talking about, Steven Ireland, is totally exempt from the rules. Ho ho ho. Merry Christmas. Twat Merry Christmas to you too. Bah humbug
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 18:58:52 GMT
No but Stephen Ireland is, the lad who we have on loan from Villa. The other lad we're talking about, Steven Ireland, is totally exempt from the rules. Ho ho ho. Merry Christmas. Very funny - but as a joke it is flawed, because there is no Steven Ireland eligible to play against Villa in the Premier League next Saturday. touché, sir.
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Post by jeycov on Dec 15, 2013 19:13:57 GMT
Do all loan deals work like this or is it that this particular one was crafted in this way? I'm just curious as to whether Cam Jerome can feature against us Only if Palace buy him in the January window before our fixture against them
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 15, 2013 19:30:51 GMT
I take it Ireland could still play for Villa against us if they recall him or can't they recall him until the end of the season? Just wondering like
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 19:42:59 GMT
I take it Ireland could still play for Villa against us if they recall him or can't they recall him until the end of the season? Just wondering like It is a season long loan. The only way he could be recalled from us is if he were sold to another club in January - in which case he could play for that club against us, assuming we had a game against them after he signed for them
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