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Post by werrington on Dec 15, 2013 14:08:57 GMT
Play next Saturday v Villa ?
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Post by Squeekster on Dec 15, 2013 14:09:34 GMT
No.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Dec 15, 2013 14:28:49 GMT
Nope.
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Post by kingstokie on Dec 15, 2013 14:32:02 GMT
nein
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Post by Batfink on Dec 15, 2013 14:43:05 GMT
negative
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Post by Jimm on Dec 15, 2013 14:45:43 GMT
Nee
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Post by Gods on Dec 15, 2013 14:45:43 GMT
Do all loan deals work like this or is it that this particular one was crafted in this way? I'm just curious as to whether Cam Jerome can feature against us  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 14:51:00 GMT
Do all loan deals work like this or is it that this particular one was crafted in this way? I'm just curious as to whether Cam Jerome can feature against us The vast majority of them do these days. Shame, I miss the days when players could come back to haunt their old clubs. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 14:51:43 GMT
Do all loan deals work like this or is it that this particular one was crafted in this way? I'm just curious as to whether Cam Jerome can feature against us Nothing to do with the way the deal was structured. It is against Premier League (or FA?) rules for loan players to play league games against their parent club. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 15, 2013 14:51:48 GMT
Geen
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Post by burberrybassist on Dec 15, 2013 14:54:35 GMT
Could always get the fake tan out and pretend he is Jon Walters..
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Post by jonnynico on Dec 15, 2013 14:54:58 GMT
Think they can if agreed with parent club but has to be in the loan contract at time of signing the loan deal.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 14:55:41 GMT
Think they can if agreed with parent club but has to be in the loan contract at time of signing the loan deal. You are wrong. I think that used to be the case, but the rule now specifies they can't play against their parent club. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 14:56:13 GMT
Do all loan deals work like this or is it that this particular one was crafted in this way? I'm just curious as to whether Cam Jerome can feature against us Nothing to do with the way the deal was structured. It is against Premier League (or FA?) rules for loan players to play league games against their parent club. Although it does still happen now and again if the two clubs agree I thought? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 14:57:31 GMT
No doubt some kind person will publish a link to the rule.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 14:59:00 GMT
And here it is according to Wiki
"In the Premier League, players on loan are not permitted to play against the team which holds their registration (section 7.2 of rule M.6). "
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 15:00:25 GMT
I see, they're allowed to in the cups if the two clubs agree but not in the league.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 15:01:25 GMT
I see, they're allowed to in the cups if the two clubs agree but not in the league. Yes, presumably because the Prem have no jurisdiction over any Cup competition. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 15:02:02 GMT
Nothing to do with the way the deal was structured. It is against Premier League (or FA?) rules for loan players to play league games against their parent club. Although it does still happen now and again if the two clubs agree I thought? No. As Lakeland says it is specifically mentioned in the Premier League rules on loans. Some anorak posted them up on here last week. You might have seen it in cup games which would be subject to agreement between the clubs. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2013 15:07:13 GMT
Although it does still happen now and again if the two clubs agree I thought? No. As Lakeland says it is specifically mentioned in the Premier League rules on loans. Some anorak posted them up on here last week. You might have seen it in cup games which would be subject to agreement between the clubs. Cheers, was confused because I'm sure I'd seen it a couple of times recently, must've been in the cups. |
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Post by werrington on Dec 15, 2013 15:07:17 GMT
Villa have effectively released him as this is the final season of his contract
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 15:09:48 GMT
Villa have effectively released him as this is the final season of his contract That doesn't affect the Premier League rule does it? If we take over his contract in January we can play him against Villa in the league game at their place. Until/unless that happens, we can't. |
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Post by werrington on Dec 15, 2013 15:11:48 GMT
Villa have effectively released him as this is the final season of his contract That doesn't affect the Premier League rule does it? If we take over his contract in January we can play him against Villa in the league game at their place. Until/unless that happens, we can't. I don't think so mate If we signed him permanently in Janusry then he can play in the return fixture |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 15:14:17 GMT
That doesn't affect the Premier League rule does it? If we take over his contract in January we can play him against Villa in the league game at their place. Until/unless that happens, we can't. I don't think so mate If we signed him permanently in Janusry then he can play in the return fixture That's what I have just said, you numpty!  |
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Post by jonnynico on Dec 15, 2013 15:14:28 GMT
Think they can if agreed with parent club but has to be in the loan contract at time of signing the loan deal. You are wrong. I think that used to be the case, but the rule now specifies they can't play against their parent club. Did say I think, sure somebody put all the rules on here and that's what it said but don't know if that was right. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 15:15:50 GMT
You are wrong. I think that used to be the case, but the rule now specifies they can't play against their parent club. Did say I think, sure somebody put all the rules on here and that's what it said but don't know if that was right. Well try reading a few posts above this one and you'll see that it is right! |
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Post by jonnynico on Dec 15, 2013 15:22:05 GMT
Did say I think, sure somebody put all the rules on here and that's what it said but don't know if that was right. Well try reading a few posts above this one and you'll see that it is right! It was put on by bolders yesterday if you care to look, just because there's a few posts saying so does that make it right, you seem a happy chappy, don't be so serious. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 15, 2013 15:25:26 GMT
Well try reading a few posts above this one and you'll see that it is right! It was put on by bolders yesterday if you care to look, just because there's a few posts saying so does that make it right, you seem a happy chappy, don't be so serious. I actually got my info by using google and looking at the Premier League rule on loans. I didn't look it up in a particularly serious manner, I just had a few seconds to spare, if that helps!  |
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Post by jonnynico on Dec 15, 2013 15:30:18 GMT
It was put on by bolders yesterday if you care to look, just because there's a few posts saying so does that make it right, you seem a happy chappy, don't be so serious. I actually got my info by using google and looking at the Premier League rule on loans. I didn't look it up in a particularly serious manner, I just had a few seconds to spare, if that helps! It doesn't matter realy, I was just saying what I thought because of what was posted, as I said I don't know, lets leave it there hey. merry xmas ps I could be wrong again but have everton got 3 players on loan or did they sign one of them. |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2013 15:38:59 GMT
Put two Stokies in a phone box and you've got an argument. |
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