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Post by kevkj on Nov 9, 2013 19:59:15 GMT
We need to support folks as hard as it seems.
Whether you pro this or anti that.
We have lost our mojo,ive watched us worse than this under Ball Jordan etc,yet the atmosphere was still there.
I cant put my finger on why exactly,but were not helping.To much chat not enough vocal support.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 20:09:15 GMT
Been thinking the same but it does all seem a bit pointless, everyone has lost enthusiasm. It has been terrible watching stoke for a while now though. We need the players to show some real commitment and put some performances in. I think they've been letting everyone down for a long time now
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Post by johnsollom on Nov 9, 2013 20:27:29 GMT
We need point and friggin fast!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 21:18:20 GMT
It's not the support
If all 11 players are sparking together as a unit the support will be there, and in turn we will get 3 points.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 9, 2013 21:20:15 GMT
We need to stop panicking.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 9, 2013 21:26:59 GMT
It's not the support If all 11 players are sparking together as a unit the support will be there, and in turn we will get 3 points. So until ALL the players are playing well we shouldn't get behind them? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 21:32:18 GMT
It's not the support If all 11 players are sparking together as a unit the support will be there, and in turn we will get 3 points. So until ALL the players are playing well we shouldn't get behind them? Where have I said that mate? Better still, fuck off with your petty squabble posts and grow the fuck up |
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 9, 2013 21:33:43 GMT
So until ALL the players are playing well we shouldn't get behind them? Where have I said that mate? Better still, fuck off with your petty squabble posts and grow the fuck up I'll give you a clue mate.... Read your post, mate. |
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Post by f1rew0rks on Nov 9, 2013 21:35:42 GMT
So until ALL the players are playing well we shouldn't get behind them? Where have I said that mate? Better still, fuck off with your petty squabble posts and grow the fuck up To be fair, that may not be what you meant but it is how it read. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2013 21:36:45 GMT
Where have I said that mate? Better still, fuck off with your petty squabble posts and grow the fuck up I'll give you a clue mate.... Read your post, mate. I swore I wouldn't get involved in this shit .......you read it again |
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 9, 2013 21:40:57 GMT
I'll give you a clue mate.... Read your post, mate. I swore I wouldn't get involved in this shit .......you read it again You obviously didn't mean then how it reads, whatever shit you didn't want to get involved with. |
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Post by enuntio on Nov 9, 2013 21:44:20 GMT
Err, whoever it was, wherever I read it. Might have been the beeb
THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE FAN SAT IN THE SEAT HAS TURNED FORTY, DUE TO THE COST OF TICKETS AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UOUNG BUCKS ARE LESS LIKELY TO GO TO SEE A SPOT OF WORKING MANS BALLET ANY MORE AND US OLDER BODS JUST DONT SING AND CHANT LIKE WE USED TO.
I wonder why that is?
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Post by wembley1972 on Nov 10, 2013 11:41:38 GMT
When we got promotion everyone in the media, pundits and to be honest most of us thought we would be relegated. Paddy Power even paid out after only a few games were played. The fans were determined to enjoy every minute of every game and a siege mentality was created at the Brit. We had characters like Fuller, Lawrence, Delap + others that got the crowd going, it was party time! Then pundits said we would stay up, TP kept on about how good the opposition were the fans started to expect more than TP or the team could give and the Brit started to become more likely to groan than get behind the team. Some times it's more like a morgue than a bear-pit.
It's a bit of a chicken & egg situation at the moment, what comes first the kind of support we became "famous" for or the performance on the pitch. Well as we can't get on the pitch we have to support in the hope that the players do their stuff on the pitch, all players say that their games is lifted by a good crowd, let's get back to being the 12th man again!!!
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Post by gb on Nov 10, 2013 11:44:16 GMT
What folks do we need to support ?
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Post by kidcrewbob on Nov 10, 2013 11:56:59 GMT
I don't subscribe to the view that showing dissatisfaction whether that be by booing or venting spleens on here equals NOT getting behind the team.....on the contrary, in most cases - I know there as are some "agenda" exception - it is that folk are so feckin' passionate about what happens on the pitch that they cannot sit quietly by and watch sub-standard performances, or "happy clap" without comment....I also don't believe that such open criticism is necessarily damaging to performance provided it is at the appropriate time (ie not during play).....
The Norwich game yesterday was a great example of how a kick up the arse from the crowd can have a hugely positive effect - they left the field at HT to the biggest chorus of boos I can recall hearing in the prem - came out and battered West Ham who had dominated completely the first 45....
I have a good feeling about today - lets do 'em Stoke......!
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Nov 10, 2013 11:59:43 GMT
Our support is completely fucked, one half don't want to cheer because their messiah is no longer here, the other half spend to long having a pop at them to cheer themselves.
Added to the fact that we haven't won convincingly since Boxing Day last year and have put in some performances so woeful and turgid that it's beyond laughable all adds up to a very disgruntled and restless fan base.
We need something to unite us all again, a convincing win by three goals or more, a wonder goal a la Crouch vs Man City, or a refereeing decision to go against us in front of the Boothen. I thought we'd got it when Arnautovic buried that free kick at Old Trafford but it wasn't to be, we just need something.
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Post by sportsman on Nov 10, 2013 12:02:22 GMT
I said when hughes first came in that his biggest job was not convincing the players of the way forward but the fans. Stoke fans just shout get it forward at a sideways pass never mind a backwards one. Most just don't understand keeping possession. Until we start winning they just won't understand.
As much as the coates family have given us everything and more I also think they've took something away.
Forget whose manager, I think hughes will be great though, a year or so ago we were blowing teams out of the water with transfers,filling in two corners and everything was encouraging.
Then just when we appoint someone who could get us playing good attacking football we massage the figures so we cut our cloth. We decide to not do either corner.
Nothing coming out of the club screams keep coming we're going places. It just screams we've all had our fun now lets get back in the real world.
We can all only thank the coates family but they have to start banging the drum again I think to give us all some positivity.
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Post by jeycov on Nov 10, 2013 12:02:30 GMT
Err, whoever it was, wherever I read it. Might have been the beeb THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE FAN SAT IN THE SEAT HAS TURNED FORTY, DUE TO THE COST OF TICKETS AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UOUNG BUCKS ARE LESS LIKELY TO GO TO SEE A SPOT OF WORKING MANS BALLET ANY MORE AND US OLDER BODS JUST DONT SING AND CHANT LIKE WE USED TO. I wonder why that is? Yes I read this too. Other opportunities to watch live football was one possibility. Success / style of play is always going to be important. It's not that long ago that we were all singing en route to Wembley, Europa Cup etc. - possibly overachieving? I feel that a buoyant crowd can be a very positive influence for the team - but in contrast confidence can be affected with negative / lack of cheering. It's sad, but we have lost our intimidating atmosphere and we are all only 2 years older? |
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Post by mermaidsal on Nov 10, 2013 13:36:03 GMT
We need to support folks as hard as it seems. Whether you pro this or anti that. We have lost our mojo,ive watched us worse than this under Ball Jordan etc,yet the atmosphere was still there. I cant put my finger on why exactly,but were not helping.To much chat not enough vocal support. Good call Kev. Weird that so many hated Tone and yet we had that united front - fewer hate Leslie but somehow has the Stokieness gone out of too many of us? Not me for sure. |
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Post by enuntio on Nov 10, 2013 22:15:53 GMT
Err, whoever it was, wherever I read it. Might have been the beeb THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE FAN SAT IN THE SEAT HAS TURNED FORTY, DUE TO THE COST OF TICKETS AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UOUNG BUCKS ARE LESS LIKELY TO GO TO SEE A SPOT OF WORKING MANS BALLET ANY MORE AND US OLDER BODS JUST DONT SING AND CHANT LIKE WE USED TO. I wonder why that is? Yes I read this too. Other opportunities to watch live football was one possibility. Success / style of play is always going to be important. It's not that long ago that we were all singing en route to Wembley, Europa Cup etc. - possibly overachieving? I feel that a buoyant crowd can be a very positive influence for the team - but in contrast confidence can be affected with negative / lack of cheering. It's sad, but we have lost our intimidating atmosphere and we are all only 2 years older? spot on, couldn't agree more. and instead of all all this negativity and pointless posts about this player is bad and that manager is toss WE SHOULD BE SINGING OUR HEADS OFF AND DOING OUR BIT TO GET US THE GOALS THAT TURN INTO POINTS We Need To Be Unique We Need To Be Stoke |
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 10, 2013 22:25:41 GMT
Our support is completely fucked, one half don't want to cheer because their messiah is no longer here, the other half spend to long having a pop at them to cheer themselves. Added to the fact that we haven't won convincingly since Boxing Day last year and have put in some performances so woeful and turgid that it's beyond laughable all adds up to a very disgruntled and restless fan base. We need something to unite us all again, a convincing win by three goals or more, a wonder goal a la Crouch vs Man City, or a refereeing decision to go against us in front of the Boothen. I thought we'd got it when Arnautovic buried that free kick at Old Trafford but it wasn't to be, we just need something. its been a long time coming hasn't it... |
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