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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 9:12:57 GMT
Average day today although Stokes is looking promising. Bit of luck at the end,maybe that ll help. Now its heads down arse up and grind out a decent score. The modern day cricketer doesn't seem capable of "grinding" out innings that's the problem. Cook and Trott looked like they were happy to bat for 5 days in the last Ashes tour, the curse of 20/20 cricket seems to have changed the mindset of a lot of test cricketers to the detrement of the game in my opinion. It is a complete and utter nothing pitch save for a bit of slow turn which should be manageable. The likes of Pietersen need to play their natural game and score steadily. Plodding along at 1.5 an over will result in one thing, a build up of pressure and being skittled out for a low score. The worry going forward is that Swann has gone from the worlds number one spinner to looking like a club cricketer (not sure if his elbow op has caused this). Anderson is being played comfortably so far and he's been our go to bowler over the years. We need a real big batting performance, if we get bowled out cheaply put your money on 5-0 as we'll be shot to pieces. Could be the end of an era?
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 6, 2013 10:11:21 GMT
Heart says England will take advantage of a good batting wicket and pile on some BIG runs; 3 centurions including one double ton (KP?). One consequence of this is Harris will break down and Mitch loses the plot and form. Too much to ask for a reverse of Adelaide 2006 but England will carry momentum into Perth where they'll destroy a shell shocked Australia team.
Head says we'll get bowled out tomorrow for a score of c250; Australia will bat again to cause more damage to our bowlers deteriorating confidence setting themselves up for another 300+ run victory. Perth will then be an X-rated show at the end of which the Ashes will now be back in the posession of the Aussies.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 10:32:53 GMT
To say things have been disappointing this series is perhaps an understatement .......but the amount of negativity that flows on here is equally as disappointing, it looks like it's backs to the wall for us now, but it's not over yet .....I continue to be optimistic as a confirmed England supporter , otherwise there is no point in bothering to watch is there ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 12:10:39 GMT
To say things have been disappointing this series is perhaps an understatement .......but the amount of negativity that flows on here is equally as disappointing, it looks like it's backs to the wall for us now, but it's not over yet .....I continue to be optimistic as a confirmed England supporter , otherwise there is no point in bothering to watch is there ? If we knuckle down and post a big total I think the confidence will hopefully return and who knows what will happen? However if they run through us I fear a drubbing this series. Big chance for Carberry and Root to shine, they both have the mentality to dig in so here's hoping!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2013 18:03:00 GMT
9 wickets in hand and I still have faith that some of 'em might come good. If they don't and Ryan Harris has hit a 50, they need to ask themselves serious questions.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 6, 2013 18:49:36 GMT
I hate waking up to find Australia's tail wagging or England throwing it away
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 19:13:34 GMT
To say things have been disappointing this series is perhaps an understatement .......but the amount of negativity that flows on here is equally as disappointing, it looks like it's backs to the wall for us now, but it's not over yet .....I continue to be optimistic as a confirmed England supporter , otherwise there is no point in bothering to watch is there ? If we knuckle down and post a big total I think the confidence will hopefully return and who knows what will happen? However if they run through us I fear a drubbing this series. Big chance for Carberry and Root to shine, they both have the mentality to dig in so here's hoping! I hope so mate .....I have rarely been so disappointed as of late
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Post by sydneypotter on Dec 6, 2013 19:53:20 GMT
The second day honours, without doubt, to the Baggy Greens A glorious day's batting on what remains a batsman's wicket. I don't see any excuse for England not to take advantage unless Johnson continues to bowl with his renewed pace and accuracy. (a big thank you to D K Lillee) Bit of shame that the Kiwi didn't get Haddin. It might very well have been a different result on the day is he hadn't overstepped. It must be said that both the captain and his vice captain had a slice of luck. It would seem that he cricketing Gods have decided to redress the imbalance at long last and are giving the Aussies a better than even break. On another topic, it's terrific was to see the Stoke City flag being shown on Channel 9. I noticed a number of shirts being worn too.
On to day three with the hope that there is even more high quality cricket on show. The new Oval is looking the part too. I'm glad it was decided to retain the lovely traditional old scoreboard; it's been an icon of the Adelaide Oval for as long as anyone can remember.
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Post by harrysburrow on Dec 6, 2013 20:23:09 GMT
Stokes has looked pretty good. Makes you wonder why they've been messing around with Woakes? The Haddin no ball was unlucky, but I've never had sympathy for bowlers in that situation though. Momentum is a massive thing in sport, especially cricket and you have to admit that things are definitely swinging towards the Aussie's after we've had the better of things/rub of the green for quite a while? I'm kind of bracing myself for shall we say, not a great series. Cook has already gone, but maybe Carberry can make up for the dropped catch with a good innings? It's time to at least show some grit. Having got thrashed in the first Test, we are now already hoping to hang on for a draw here. We've got 19 wickets left, if we can't bat well enough on this track to save the game then we will be where we deserve to be.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2013 21:39:00 GMT
Stokes has looked pretty good. Makes you wonder why they've been messing around with Woakes? The Haddin no ball was unlucky, but I've never had sympathy for bowlers in that situation though. Momentum is a massive thing in sport, especially cricket and you have to admit that things are definitely swinging towards the Aussie's after we've had the better of things/rub of the green for quite a while? I'm kind of bracing myself for shall we say, not a great series. Cook has already gone, but maybe Carberry can make up for the dropped catch with a good innings? It's time to at least show some grit. Having got thrashed in the first Test, we are now already hoping to hang on for a draw here. We've got 19 wickets left, if we can't bat well enough on this track to save the game then we will be where we deserve to be. Re momentum in sport. I was watching the NFL on Channel 4 the other day and they were debating if momentum in sport actually exists (mainly within a single game) but it's something I've never thought of before. Mike Carlsson doesn't think it does. Brian Moore (the ex England hooker) disagreed. I agree with Moore but there are a few other sports journalists who see it the same as Carlsson.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 21:45:25 GMT
Interesting. When you say momentum though, what exactly do you mean? I certainly saw momentum overcome Brazil in the 1998 WC Final. What are you getting at Bayern?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2013 21:54:05 GMT
Interesting. When you say momentum though, what exactly do you mean? I certainly saw momentum overcome Brazil in the 1998 WC Final. What are you getting at Bayern? I think it does exist so I'm not getting at anything! Reading that post just reminded me of what they were talking about and I thought momentum in sport was a given but it seems it's not. Carlsson's case involved about what defines momentum and how why is it momentum and not just good sportsman and stuff like that. And another one was if it's such a big force why does what is seen as momentum change so easily in one game? Because it's not momentum it's just the ebb and flow of a game. Stuff like that. I just thought it was quite interesting. You'd have to watch back if You can because it was late and I can't remember his exact argument.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 6, 2013 21:57:03 GMT
Interesting. When you say momentum though, what exactly do you mean? I certainly saw momentum overcome Brazil in the 1998 WC Final. What are you getting at Bayern? Momentum certainly exists - know also as "being on a roll" which may be more familiar to folk, or easy to grasp.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2013 22:04:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 22:13:00 GMT
Well the opposite of momentum is inertia. However, in sport you can witness both phenomena. So many times we can see momentum. Kathy Freeman in 2000. The Springboks in 2007. Our athletes last year in the Olympics.
At the moment, and for the last (since Euro 1996) 17 years the English national side has been in total inertia. The UK and particularly the English Premier League is the No.1 football/soccer/callitwhatuwant sports league in the world, by a country mile.
To not grant the UK a FIFA WC tournament in 2018 is a fucking travesty. FIFA and that idiot Blatter, can fuck off as far as I am concerned. Never mind 2022 and the Qatar fuckup, I'd like to see us pull out of the Russian debacle too.
Sorry Bayern, but i'm fuming over FIFA. We waited 22 years for top flight down Stoke. Looks like we'll be waiting for 100 with the World Cup. I'm 48 now, and I'll never see it in my lifetime. Fucks me right off.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 6, 2013 22:23:43 GMT
Wasn't Kathy Freeman just the best 400 metre runner in the world at the time? And I wouldn't put our athletes down to momentum either, again wasn't it down to more funding, more athletes so more chance of winning and the increased support? Although I agree momentum exists in sport, I don't think they were down to momentum. English football has been decline since the 50's. I've got a book from then that tells me so! Why are You saying sorry to me? It's got nowt to do with momentum!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 22:47:48 GMT
Well the opposite of momentum is inertia. However, in sport you can witness both phenomena. So many times we can see momentum. Kathy Freeman in 2000. The Springboks in 2007. Our athletes last year in the Olympics. At the moment, and for the last (since Euro 1996) 17 years the English national side has been in total inertia. The UK and particularly the English Premier League is the No.1 football/soccer/callitwhatuwant sports league in the world, by a country mile. To not grant the UK a FIFA WC tournament in 2018 is a fucking travesty. FIFA and that idiot Blatter, can fuck off as far as I am concerned. Never mind 2022 and the Qatar fuckup, I'd like to see us pull out of the Russian debacle too. Sorry Bayern, but i'm fuming over FIFA. We waited 22 years for top flight down Stoke. Looks like we'll be waiting for 100 with the World Cup. I'm 48 now, and I'll never see it in my lifetime. Fucks me right off. What on Earth are you doing on a Cricket thread ************** ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 23:20:48 GMT
Well the opposite of momentum is inertia. However, in sport you can witness both phenomena. So many times we can see momentum. Kathy Freeman in 2000. The Springboks in 2007. Our athletes last year in the Olympics. At the moment, and for the last (since Euro 1996) 17 years the English national side has been in total inertia. The UK and particularly the English Premier League is the No.1 football/soccer/callitwhatuwant sports league in the world, by a country mile. To not grant the UK a FIFA WC tournament in 2018 is a fucking travesty. FIFA and that idiot Blatter, can fuck off as far as I am concerned. Never mind 2022 and the Qatar fuckup, I'd like to see us pull out of the Russian debacle too. Sorry Bayern, but i'm fuming over FIFA. We waited 22 years for top flight down Stoke. Looks like we'll be waiting for 100 with the World Cup. I'm 48 now, and I'll never see it in my lifetime. Fucks me right off. What on Earth are you doing on a Cricket thread ************** ? That's a very good question Bish.
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Post by lastoftheldk on Dec 6, 2013 23:37:43 GMT
What on Earth are you doing on a Cricket thread ************** ? That's a very good question Bish. weekend drinks started early over there **************
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 23:46:48 GMT
Time to build a brick wall around the wickets
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Post by Gods on Dec 6, 2013 23:51:12 GMT
If the first session today gets off to the sight of exploding stumps and Australian high fives we may as well draw a line under this pantomime and bring the lads home
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2013 23:54:11 GMT
If the first session today gets off to the sight of exploding stumps and Australian high fives we may as well draw a line under this pantomime and bring the lads home Lord Bish won't like that, cage rattling
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Post by Gods on Dec 7, 2013 0:02:22 GMT
If the first session today gets off to the sight of exploding stumps and Australian high fives we may as well draw a line under this pantomime and bring the lads home Lord Bish won't like that, cage rattling Oh crikey, I assumed even Lord Bish had thrown the towel in on this doomed tour
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 0:04:03 GMT
One over - No wickets. Top start
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 0:07:02 GMT
Lord Bish won't like that, cage rattling Oh crikey, I assumed even Lord Bish had thrown the towel in on this doomed tour If we are 3-0 down, Lord Bish wouldn't throw in the towel
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 0:12:07 GMT
Ambassador stat of the day: Lord Bish has posted twice as many posts than anybody else on this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 0:13:50 GMT
We have a run for no wicket Raise your glasses
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Dec 7, 2013 0:26:43 GMT
What a fantastic start carry on at this rate we could reach 60-1. Who would of thought it.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Dec 7, 2013 0:32:20 GMT
What a fantastic start carry on at this rate we could reach 60-1. Who would of thought it. Sorry Bish That was just a slight tap of the cage.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2013 0:33:30 GMT
A steady start
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