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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 26, 2013 16:03:19 GMT
Thank fuck Pulis ball is back. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) Played well today boys and a point was the least we deserved. That was Hughes ball but agree about the point.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 26, 2013 16:03:30 GMT
Wilson's had a bit of a shitter since coming on. he's a terrible sub in not warm and has no desire it seems but Hughes sticks with it ugh... I'd rather seen etherington or pennant.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 26, 2013 16:03:43 GMT
Did the substitutions cost us.
Gutted
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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 16:03:54 GMT
I'm afraid that sub had a big part in us losing today. Easy to be wise afterwards What do you mean? We could've put anyone but Wilson on the left wing really. Why him?
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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 16:05:39 GMT
I'm afraid that sub had a big part in us losing today. Arnie went off because he was feeling ill according to commentary but it changed the game. Yes, mate - that is fair enough. But my point is that we shouldn't have put Wilson there.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 26, 2013 16:06:16 GMT
Easy to be wise afterwards What do you mean? We could've put anyone but Wilson on the left wing really. Why him? I cant read his mind but I presume to provide defensive cover on the left.
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Post by kevkj on Oct 26, 2013 16:07:37 GMT
Wilson is awful,milk turns quicker,awful player along with the other Ws.
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Post by riponstokie on Oct 26, 2013 16:07:48 GMT
So it's another "we played so well and deserved something out the game" and we did but once again we didn't get anything out the game.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 26, 2013 16:08:05 GMT
Rules of engagement for today. If we get something Hughes is a fucking genius, if we get battered Pulis left us with a £100M worth of dross. Carry on. Nearly right. ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 16:09:08 GMT
What do you mean? We could've put anyone but Wilson on the left wing really. Why him? I cant read his mind but I presume to provide defensive cover on the left. We shouldn't go over the top here but you can't defend that sub one iota. Defensive cover goes against everything Hughes said pre match about going there and being positive, especially seeing how the game was panning out and how poor Utd were at the back. Assaidi was the sub to make. Not a patch on Marko technically but raw pace alone would have given Utd something to think about going the other way and would have stopped them pushing up as much as they did. It would have given us a cracking out ball.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 26, 2013 16:10:19 GMT
Arnie went off because he was feeling ill according to commentary but it changed the game. Yes, mate - that is fair enough. But my point is that we shouldn't have put Wilson there. I agree assaidi or pennant would of offered more Wilson seemed to lose possession to easily he was off the pace of the game. Glenn didn't cross when crouch was calling for it in that last couple mins to crouch I was screaming at the tv... IMO Hughes subs were late and we parked to early... Also... Wilson for Arnie seriously? Soon as he was off I said there's the pace and attack gone.
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 26, 2013 16:10:48 GMT
Arnie went off because he was feeling ill according to commentary but it changed the game. Yes, mate - that is fair enough. But my point is that we shouldn't have put Wilson there. Yes I would have chosen Assaidi or Pennant
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 26, 2013 16:11:34 GMT
Terribly disappointed - but have to take the positives. Always a big mistake I feel to take off an attacker for a defender; it just lets the opposition take the initiative and hard to say it but they are too good to be given freedom of the park. First on the tele tonight (?), then early to bed. Hope Stoke don't have a hang-over against the Saints. With all the yellow cards it could look a different team soon!
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 26, 2013 16:11:34 GMT
So it's another "we played so well and deserved something out the game" and we did but once again we didn't get anything out the game. Sadly this seems to be a repeating phrase. Playing well but getting nowt. Sods laws says next league game will be shocking, and we scrape a win. In all honesty I wouldnt care if that was the outcome, so long as the rest of the teams above us carry on taking points off each other
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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 16:11:40 GMT
What do you mean? We could've put anyone but Wilson on the left wing really. Why him? I cant read his mind but I presume to provide defensive cover on the left. I'd rather have put Wilko on the left back and play Pieters on the left wing then. Or, just put Wilson has left back and Pieters as left winger. Or, put Ireland on the left and put Wilson in the middle. Or, just sub Assaidi, who is a winger, for Arnautovic. Or, get Adam on for Marko. At least Adam has got a left foot. Or, put Walters on the left, Cameron on the right wing and Wilko as the right back. ANYTHING but WILSON as our LEFT WINGER.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 26, 2013 16:12:40 GMT
I have yet to see what anyone sees in Assaidi, yes hes fast, but no end product and doesn't beat a man always turns back.
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 26, 2013 16:13:04 GMT
listening to BBC now, predictably we didn't play well it was Manure who were poor!
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 26, 2013 16:14:16 GMT
I cant read his mind but I presume to provide defensive cover on the left. I'd rather have put Wilko on the left back and play Pieters on the left wing then. Or, just put Wilson has left back and Pieters as left winger. Or, put Ireland on the left and put Wilson in the middle. Or, just sub Assaidi, who is a winger, for Arnautovic. Or, get Adam on for Marko. At least Adam has got a left foot. Or, put Walters on the left, Cameron on the right wing and Wilko as the right back. ANYTHING but WILSON as our LEFT WINGER. That's probably why you aint a manager then ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Cameron right wing Pieters left wing lol
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2013 16:18:31 GMT
I have yet to see what anyone sees in Assaidi, yes hes fast, but no end product and doesn't beat a man always turns back. Tbf he turns back because he is right footed playing on the left.
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Post by Bombus on Oct 26, 2013 16:19:09 GMT
I'd rather have put Wilko on the left back and play Pieters on the left wing then. Or, just put Wilson has left back and Pieters as left winger. Or, put Ireland on the left and put Wilson in the middle. Or, just sub Assaidi, who is a winger, for Arnautovic. Or, get Adam on for Marko. At least Adam has got a left foot. Or, put Walters on the left, Cameron on the right wing and Wilko as the right back. ANYTHING but WILSON as our LEFT WINGER. That's probably why you aint a manager then ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Cameron right wing Pieters left wing lol Rather have that than Wilson as our left winger, boy. Cameron played as a right winger in the MLS and Pieters has shown he could play higher up the field (he has played as a left winger before as well). As I said, ANYTHING but that fucking sub, very much including that option.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 26, 2013 16:20:20 GMT
That's probably why you aint a manager then ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif) Cameron right wing Pieters left wing lol Rather have that than Wilson as our left winger, boy. Cameron played as a right winger in the MLS and Pieters has shown he could play higher up the field (he has played as a left winger before as well). As I said, ANYTHING but that fucking sub, very much including that option. I could play right winger in the MLS and im 64 and overweight
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 26, 2013 16:20:33 GMT
I think it's very unfair to blame Wilson for the defeat! I think it was all about keeping the lead as long as possible, but unfortunately Rooney's header was an almost unbelievable one! We were a tad unlucky, but we were closer than ever after we came up to the PL.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 26, 2013 16:21:48 GMT
What do you mean? We could've put anyone but Wilson on the left wing really. Why him? I cant read his mind but I presume to provide defensive cover on the left. And that's where Wilson has played his best football for stoke and should only be used there again.
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Post by tuum on Oct 26, 2013 16:30:59 GMT
So it's another "we played so well and deserved something out the game" and we did but once again we didn't get anything out the game. I remember thinking the same during the 84-85 season. It's not an exact comparison but I prefer to see winning football than pretty football. I am happy to ride the wave with Hughes but make no mistake this season will be as nervous as any under Pulis. If we survive then I am sure we will come out the other side a stronger team. If we get relegated I can handle it. I am not a massive fan of the Premier League..football is all about emotion and you get that in any division..so relegation holds no fear. I do think we will stay up though...comfortably if we can get a good striker in Jan.
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Post by kylelightbourne on Oct 26, 2013 16:32:10 GMT
I cant read his mind but I presume to provide defensive cover on the left. And that's where Wilson has played his best football for stoke and should only be used there again. Come again? ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif)
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 26, 2013 16:33:23 GMT
And that's where Wilson has played his best football for stoke and should only be used there again. Come again? ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) Defensive cover on the left. Pretty self explanatory.
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Post by kylelightbourne on Oct 26, 2013 16:36:55 GMT
Come again? ![(rofl)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/wMWjB17JNiCK5pUPtfmL.gif) Defensive cover on the left. Pretty self explanatory. So you think he's played his best football for us on the left wing?
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 26, 2013 16:38:50 GMT
I know you're just being pedantic and you know what I mean. DEFENSIVE!!
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Oct 26, 2013 16:39:59 GMT
So it's another "we played so well and deserved something out the game" and we did but once again we didn't get anything out the game. I remember thinking the same during the 84-85 season. It's not an exact comparison but I prefer to see winning football than pretty football. I am happy to ride the wave with Hughes but make no mistake this season will be as nervous as any under Pulis. If we survive then I am sure we will come out the other side a stronger team. If we get relegated I can handle it. I am not a massive fan of the Premier League..football is all about emotion and you get that in any division..so relegation holds no fear. I do think we will stay up though...comfortably if we can get a good striker in Jan. Gordon Bennett mate we never played well at all that season we were awful
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2013 16:46:05 GMT
Did the substitutions cost us. Gutted Definitely.
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