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Post by kevkj on Oct 6, 2013 18:14:56 GMT
Im not making excuses but boy we get some shocking crucial decisions go against us.Two penalty appeals yesterday.last week kenwyne pulled over for a blatant pen,Man City at home a handball blatant pen. Now all these incidents have been talked about on MOTD and Sunday supplement and all agree that they were penaltys.These could have put 6-7 more points on our tally.
Very interesting comment from Chamack when asked by Holloway why he went down for a penalty instead of staying on his feet and shooting .He said and i quote,"if i was playing for Arsenal i would have got a penalty 100%".
Yesterday City got a dodgy pen , whilst Everton had much better claims turned down.
So it seems the saying ,IT LEVELS ITSELF OUT is bollux ,what it means is Man U ,Arsenal ,Man City etc will get preferential treatment.
I think after 5 years ive had enough of the prem,bring back the all exciting,less cheating championship where club perceivement seems less important.
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Post by kettle2013 on Oct 6, 2013 18:43:25 GMT
It's football and I wouldn't change it for the world! Debatable decisions, bad tackles are what split opinions.
With out it, it would be boring. :-)
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 6, 2013 18:46:32 GMT
Im not making excuses but boy we get some shocking crucial decisions go against us.Two penalty appeals yesterday.last week kenwyne pulled over for a blatant pen,Man City at home a handball blatant pen. Now all these incidents have been talked about on MOTD and Sunday supplement and all agree that they were penaltys.These could have put 6-7 more points on our tally. Very interesting comment from Chamack when asked by Holloway why he went down for a penalty instead of staying on his feet and shooting .He said and i quote,"if i was playing for Arsenal i would have got a penalty 100%". Yesterday City got a dodgy pen , whilst Everton had much better claims turned down. So it seems the saying ,IT LEVELS ITSELF OUT is bollux ,what it means is Man U ,Arsenal ,Man City etc will get preferential treatment. I think after 5 years ive had enough of the prem,bring back the all exciting,less cheating championship where club perceivement seems less important. To be fair mate we could have just as easy given away 2 pen's yesterday and it could easy have been 10 v 10. The officials were shit but they were shit for both sides.
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Post by kevkj on Oct 6, 2013 18:52:09 GMT
not sure about that .Ruiz threw his leg out to hit Wilson,obvious when viewed from behind on the cameras,thats what the ref saw.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Oct 6, 2013 18:56:46 GMT
not sure about that .Ruiz threw his leg out to hit Wilson,obvious when viewed from behind on the cameras,thats what the ref saw. I dunna know Kev. On goals on Sunday Cammy went through our game quite thorough and all 4 looked like pens to them and I agreed. Also both Whelan and there slapper could quite easy have walked.
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Post by kevkj on Oct 6, 2013 19:00:42 GMT
Agree on last point.Still think star struck refs shaft us.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 6, 2013 23:21:19 GMT
Well, it's one of those. To me, yesterday, we didn't get the rub of the green... but then again Whelan could have been sent off for that tackle and Fulham could have had a penalty too, so it's probably not fair to say we're being shafted so to speak.
I thought the ref against Arsenal was very poor in the sense of him just generally favouring Arsenal. He allowed their play acting to go on all game and while he didn't make any major errors, he seemed to be very whistle happy.
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Post by britsabroad on Oct 7, 2013 2:30:18 GMT
Don't think its anything to do with Stoke. The standard of refereeing has been appalling for the last couple of seasons. The old argument was that with TV replays everything gets analysed but i think its gone beyond that now, referees are so shit scared of players/press/criticism they are screwing up simple decisions.
As with many things in the modern English game, the scumbags from Fulham Road are largely to blame. The Clattenburg incident was a bit of a watermark and showed everyone the FA will never take action on it.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 7, 2013 6:37:28 GMT
Don't think its anything to do with Stoke. The standard of refereeing has been appalling for the last couple of seasons. The old argument was that with TV replays everything gets analysed but i think its gone beyond that now, referees are so shit scared of players/press/criticism they are screwing up simple decisions. As with many things in the modern English game, the scumbags from Fulham Road are largely to blame. The Clattenburg incident was a bit of a watermark and showed everyone the FA will never take action on it. There's been several major incidents where the FA refused to act, yet one ref has a moderately bad game reffing Arsenal and they're dropped for the next game. That's the FA for you.
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Post by penkvillepotter on Oct 7, 2013 8:42:32 GMT
There is no doubt the bigger teams get more dubious decisions in their favour. Always have and seemingly always will. We can argue all day about the validity of this claim or that but don't mask the fact that we've been pretty abject in the last quarter of the pitch in the last couple of games.
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