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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 25, 2013 10:00:02 GMT
As posted earlier, on one minute there will be a few thousand quite possibly not in their seats. Those who don't know what it is about (the vast majority, I should think) will not know what the hell they are clapping for.
That's one of the problems with social media - no one can stop this sort of thing happening no matter how bloody stupid it is.
Mabel was a friend of mine - I loved her to bits. She deserves better than the half arsed round of applause she is going to get from a minority of the crowd on Sunday.
I'll remember her fondly, and no doubt with tears in my eyes, when her picture and name appear on the big screen at the OFFICIAL CLUB ACT OF REMEMBRANCE at the turn of the year - when I'll applaud her and all the others who have left us in 2013.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 10:05:02 GMT
I just don't get why it has to be during the game, especially now it is happening every week. Surely a minutes applause / silence before kick off or at half time would be more respectful?
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 10:12:44 GMT
The end of year tribute is obviously the best way we have at the moment to remember fellow stokies that have passed away, but if certain families ask for people who want to, to join in doing something different, well either do join in or don't. Why get angry about it?!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 10:16:49 GMT
The end of year tribute is obviously the best way we have at the moment to remember fellow stokies that have passed away, but if certain families ask for people who want to, to join in doing something different, well either do join in or don't. Why get angry about it?! most people feel forced to join in and just clap because everyone else is. That's the problem here, most people are not paying respects they are just clapping because they don't want to stand out |
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 25, 2013 10:17:26 GMT
The end of year tribute is obviously the best way we have at the moment to remember fellow stokies that have passed away, but if certain families ask for people who want to, to join in doing something different, well either do join in or don't. Why get angry about it?! In this case though it doesn't seem the family has requested it. Some busy bodies on social media sites have taken it upon themselves to do it. Asking the family as an afterthought... |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 25, 2013 10:21:13 GMT
The end of year tribute is obviously the best way we have at the moment to remember fellow stokies that have passed away, but if certain families ask for people who want to, to join in doing something different, well either do join in or don't. Why get angry about it?! Yes, but Mabel's family didn't ask for this. Some days AFTER the facebook campaign started, someone finally got round to telling Mabel's family about it. The family were consulted by the club about the tribute paid in the matchday program for our first home game of the season and, no doubt, they were also consulted about having a tribute on the big screen at the end of the year. This plan for Sunday is not a tribute asked for my Mabel's family. |
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 10:24:11 GMT
The end of year tribute is obviously the best way we have at the moment to remember fellow stokies that have passed away, but if certain families ask for people who want to, to join in doing something different, well either do join in or don't. Why get angry about it?! In this case though it doesn't seem the family has requested it. Some busy bodies on social media sites have taken it upon themselves to do it. Asking the family as an afterthought... That is a bit strange, maybe they just really want to do something for Mabel. The club and her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. If it is going to happen every one in that ground needs to know exactly whats going on. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 25, 2013 10:29:08 GMT
In this case though it doesn't seem the family has requested it. Some busy bodies on social media sites have taken it upon themselves to do it. Asking the family as an afterthought... That is a bit strange, maybe they just really want to do something for Mabel. The club and her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. If it is going to happen every one in that ground needs to know exactly whats going on. It really is up to her family to decide what they want to do. There was a tribute in the match day program and there will, presumably, be a tribute on the big screen at the end of the year. Maybe that is all the family want - we should respect that. But obviously some of the facebook fascists see things differently.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 10:30:00 GMT
True
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Post by cheadlepotter on Sept 25, 2013 10:42:35 GMT
Sure, social media has it's advantages (for me, it would be photo sharing, arranging events, as I couldn't care less about someone feeling fat, their dinner, or that they've gone to the gym).
But this sort of thing is what annoys me the most. The most disrespectful thing you can do is show your respects to someone just to gain attention.
For once I agree with Lakeland Potter, leave it for the end of the year.
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 25, 2013 10:44:32 GMT
In this case though it doesn't seem the family has requested it. Some busy bodies on social media sites have taken it upon themselves to do it. Asking the family as an afterthought... That is a bit strange, maybe they just really want to do something for Mabel. The club and her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. If it is going to happen every one in that ground needs to know exactly whats going on. I don't think any of us are in a position to dictate to her family what they should and shouldn't do in my opinion. |
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 11:12:58 GMT
That is a bit strange, maybe they just really want to do something for Mabel. The club and her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. If it is going to happen every one in that ground needs to know exactly whats going on. I don't think any of us are in a position to dictate to her family what they should and shouldn't do in my opinion. Who are you refering to as 'dictating to her family'? |
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Post by Stoke711 on Sept 25, 2013 11:23:48 GMT
I think the club should have had mabels scalf on the centre spot before ko for the entire season and dedicate the season to her.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 25, 2013 11:27:27 GMT
We're turning into a bunch of Scousers.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 25, 2013 11:33:43 GMT
I'd like the club to come out and ask the fans to leave it til the end of year tribute they do so well and give it a bit of publicity.
The last thread on this proved not everyone knows it happens
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 25, 2013 11:34:45 GMT
I don't think any of us are in a position to dictate to her family what they should and shouldn't do in my opinion. Who are you refering to as 'dictating to her family'? Sorry I was sure you'd said "The club and her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city."** Maybe they didn't want too, they might be quite private people. **Y.Wilko. 2013 |
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Post by Davef on Sept 25, 2013 11:35:55 GMT
We're turning into a bunch of Scousers. Nonsense!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 11:46:02 GMT
Who are you refering to as 'dictating to her family'? Sorry I was sure you'd said 'her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. Maybe they didn't want too, they might be quite private people. Well said mate. It was obvious from the thread started before the last home game that people were losing/had lost their appetite for the minutes applause during games. Surely people can see that it's been overdone now, particularly when, for the first time ever, the club has instigated an excellent mechanism to celebrate the lives of loved ones at the end of the season. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2013 11:46:52 GMT
When I kick the bucket can I request a minutes booing and chants of "Wanker, wanker, wanker"? That really would make me smile.  I can sort this, no problem. Has anybody got Scholes' email address? |
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Sept 25, 2013 11:51:19 GMT
Probably a bit of a maudlin suggestion and difficult to administrate,but couldn't we have a pinned thread to enable board users to post a pic and details of Stoke fans that have passed away during the year that the Oatie can then forward to the club in readiness for the End OF Year Tribute.Hopefully would help ensure everyone receives a fittingly inclusive and dignified acknowledgement of their Stoke supporting life and maybe bring some solace to relatives at a difficult time.
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 12:11:37 GMT
Who are you refering to as 'dictating to her family'? Sorry I was sure you'd said 'her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. Maybe they didn't want too, they might be quite private people. Missed out the bit about the club there didn't you? i meant driven by the club consulting with her family but you know this your just an arse. Look, some blokes who are obviously massive stoke fans, want to do something to remember a special lady, whether a minutes applause on a certain minute during a match is the right way to do it can be debated between her family, the club, supporters etc but their intentions are obviously good aren't they? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 25, 2013 12:17:41 GMT
Sorry I was sure you'd said 'her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. Maybe they didn't want too, they might be quite private people. Missed out the bit about the club there didn't you? i meant driven by the club consulting with her family but you know this your just an arse. Look, some blokes who are obviously massive stoke fans, want to do something to remember a special lady, whether a minutes applause on a certain minute during a match is the right way to do it can be debated between her family, the club, supporters etc but their intentions are obviously good aren't they? After the last one, I don't know tbh. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why this is just a bad idea. She deserves it more than most but one, it's too late and two, after the last one where it was done in a half arsed fashion with the majority of people not knowing what they were clapping for. It's a shame it's come to this. |
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 12:26:11 GMT
Missed out the bit about the club there didn't you? i meant driven by the club consulting with her family but you know this your just an arse. Look, some blokes who are obviously massive stoke fans, want to do something to remember a special lady, whether a minutes applause on a certain minute during a match is the right way to do it can be debated between her family, the club, supporters etc but their intentions are obviously good aren't they? After the last one, I don't know tbh. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why this is just a bad idea. She deserves it more than most but one, it's too late and two, after the last one where it was done in a half arsed fashion with the majority of people not knowing what they were clapping for. It's a shame it's come to this. I've always said the end of year tribute was the best way to pay respects, just thought Mabel was known by pretty much everyone so something special for her would have been great. Maybe the time has past and we'l just have to wait till the end of season. The shit that the blokes get for trying to do something for her though is way out of order in my opinion. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 25, 2013 12:30:11 GMT
After the last one, I don't know tbh. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see why this is just a bad idea. She deserves it more than most but one, it's too late and two, after the last one where it was done in a half arsed fashion with the majority of people not knowing what they were clapping for. It's a shame it's come to this. I've always said the end of year tribute was the best way to pay respects, just thought Mabel was known by pretty much everyone so something special for her would have been great. Maybe the time has past and we'l just have to wait till the end of season. The shit that the blokes get for trying to do something for her though is way out of order in my opinion. Something would have been but either at Liverpool away or Palace at home. Not the third home game of the season after we've already had two that half the crowd knew nowt about. She deserves better. No more of these clapping things should happen imo, I didn't like it from the first because the one done around Christmas is poignant and touching. |
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 25, 2013 12:33:06 GMT
Sorry I was sure you'd said 'her family should have come up with something special for that lady, she was stoke city. Maybe they didn't want too, they might be quite private people. Missed out the bit about the club there didn't you? i meant driven by the club consulting with her family but you know this your just an arse. Look, some blokes who are obviously massive stoke fans, want to do something to remember a special lady, whether a minutes applause on a certain minute during a match is the right way to do it can be debated between her family, the club, supporters etc but their intentions are obviously good aren't they? Apologies, was just putting it down from memory rather than using the quote function. Have referenced your post correctly and modified the original offending post. See Bibliography. Your post still reads as though you're dictating what should've been done though. As for their intentions, on the surface they are good. Although I do get the sense that there is some self-aggrandisement going on to be quite honest. Bibliography Y. Wilko. (Attempted) Minutes Applause At The Weekend. Oatcake Publishers 2013 |
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 12:36:05 GMT
I've always said the end of year tribute was the best way to pay respects, just thought Mabel was known by pretty much everyone so something special for her would have been great. Maybe the time has past and we'l just have to wait till the end of season. The shit that the blokes get for trying to do something for her though is way out of order in my opinion. Something would have been but either at Liverpool away or Palace at home. Not the third home game of the season after we've already had two that half the crowd knew nowt about. She deserves better. No more of these clapping things should happen imo, I didn't like it from the first because the one done around Christmas is poignant and touching. As someone has started a thread about, a song for Mabel would be brilliant. |
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 12:43:10 GMT
Missed out the bit about the club there didn't you? i meant driven by the club consulting with her family but you know this your just an arse. Look, some blokes who are obviously massive stoke fans, want to do something to remember a special lady, whether a minutes applause on a certain minute during a match is the right way to do it can be debated between her family, the club, supporters etc but their intentions are obviously good aren't they? Apologies, was just putting it down from memory rather than using the quote function. Have referenced your post correctly and modified the original offending post. See Bibliography. Your post still reads as though you're dictating what should've been done though. As for their intentions, on the surface they are good. Although I do get the sense that there is some self-aggrandisement going on to be quite honest. Bibliography Y. Wilko. (Attempted) Minutes Applause At The Weekend. Oatcake Publishers 2013 What did i dictate should've been done?. "something special" Well what an awful person i must be |
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 25, 2013 12:49:29 GMT
Apologies, was just putting it down from memory rather than using the quote function. Have referenced your post correctly and modified the original offending post. See Bibliography. Your post still reads as though you're dictating what should've been done though. As for their intentions, on the surface they are good. Although I do get the sense that there is some self-aggrandisement going on to be quite honest. Bibliography Y. Wilko. (Attempted) Minutes Applause At The Weekend. Oatcake Publishers 2013 What did i dictate should've been done?. "something special" Well what an awful person i must be Sorry, we seem to have crossed wires here. Your post seemed to read as though you thought the club & family were failing by not doing 'something special'... The club and Mabel's family have liaised since her passing. Perhaps they've chosen to wait for the official club remembrance act etc. I mean you no harm yeswilko. Also for the record I'll be applauding on Sunday. Despite my reservations about these type of 'memorials' |
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 25, 2013 12:55:55 GMT
What did i dictate should've been done?. "something special" Well what an awful person i must be Sorry, we seem to have crossed wires here. Your post seemed to read as though you thought the club & family were failing by not doing 'something special'... The club and Mabel's family have liaised since her passing. Perhaps they've chosen to wait for the official club remembrance act etc. I mean you no harm yeswilko. Also for the record I'll be applauding on Sunday. Despite my reservations about these type of 'memorials' No worries I think a hearty ' WE LOVE YOU MABEL, WE DO ' would be just fanastic |
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Post by stokeramblers on Sept 25, 2013 13:00:44 GMT
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