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Post by basingstokie on Oct 7, 2014 19:36:57 GMT
Agreed, why would they. Fifa made their bed, let them lie in it. IF they'd approached the IOC before hand and suggested a winter world cup to allow non traditional countries to bid then they may have a got a warmer reception. Worth bearing in mind that the IOC went through a similar corruption scandal at salt Lake City in 2002 and were rightly castigated for it. Chances of them helping fifa out of this mess are less than zero.
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 8, 2014 13:42:03 GMT
Agreed, why would they. Fifa made their bed, let them lie in it. IF they'd approached the IOC before hand and suggested a winter world cup to allow non traditional countries to bid then they may have a got a warmer reception. Worth bearing in mind that the IOC went through a similar corruption scandal at salt Lake City in 2002 and were rightly castigated for it. Chances of them helping fifa out of this mess are less than zero. I see what you did there
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Post by Northy on Oct 9, 2014 7:55:17 GMT
Blatter is an IOC member as well it mentions in that report, does that slimeball have no shame
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Post by ohbottom on Oct 9, 2014 8:22:36 GMT
I think realistically, he'll be there till he croaks, skimming a bit off the top and corrupting primarily the African nations and getting a nice healthy wedge. Unfortunately, a large part of the blame lies with us and Tony Blair. So ultimately, we must shoulder some of the responsibility. Now, I'm not one of Blair's biggest fans, but I'm struggling to see how he can be in any way blamed for the corruption endemic in FIFA. And who is included in the "we" who are also partly responsible?
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Post by metalhead on Oct 9, 2014 11:43:58 GMT
I think realistically, he'll be there till he croaks, skimming a bit off the top and corrupting primarily the African nations and getting a nice healthy wedge. Unfortunately, a large part of the blame lies with us and Tony Blair. So ultimately, we must shoulder some of the responsibility. Now, I'm not one of Blair's biggest fans, but I'm struggling to see how he can be in any way blamed for the corruption endemic in FIFA. And who is included in the "we" who are also partly responsible? I've already had this discussion on a few different forums, so I really don't want to go back over it in too much detail but I'll lay out the key points. Basically, there was a Gentleman's agreement in place with Lennart Johansson that in exchange for Germany backing England for Euro 1996, England would back Germany for the 2006 World Cup. Johansson was on the UEFA committee and was to run against Sepp Blatter in 1998 for the first FIFA presidency, since the well-known corrupt maggot Joao Havelange stepped down. Back then, the FA knew of how corrupt Havelange was. He and Blatter were close friends and both involved in the ISL scandal which involve large amounts of dirty money exchanging hands. Regardless, Blair's desire to be the prime minister who brought the World Cup back to England drove him to push the FA into running against Germany, reneging on the Gentlemen's agreement with Johansson. Upon hearing this, Havelange took the opportunity to meet Blair personally. He privately assured him that both he and Blatter would back England for the World Cup in 2006, so long as England switched allegiance to Sepp Blatter. Blair pressured the FA to switch allegiance, who, upon hearing the possibility of a successful World Cup bid duly obliged. The majority of commonwealth states switched to Blatter and ergo, Blatter won. Of course, Blatter's interests were not England whatsoever and never have been. His interests have always been firmly with the African nations as there is a lot of dirty money to be made over there. Really, the world, and football in general, needed Johansson to be elected president. His reputation is whiter than white, he is highly regarded in world football. Unfortunately, we threw that opportunity away out of some pathetic vanity and arrogance. We caused the shift which ultimately resulted in Sepp Blatter being president. And if you don't believe me, Google it, it's all well documented on the Internet.
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Post by ohbottom on Oct 9, 2014 12:22:14 GMT
Now, I'm not one of Blair's biggest fans, but I'm struggling to see how he can be in any way blamed for the corruption endemic in FIFA. And who is included in the "we" who are also partly responsible? I've already had this discussion on a few different forums, so I really don't want to go back over it in too much detail but I'll lay out the key points. Basically, there was a Gentleman's agreement in place with Lennart Johansson that in exchange for Germany backing England for Euro 1996, England would back Germany for the 2006 World Cup. Johansson was on the UEFA committee and was to run against Sepp Blatter in 1998 for the first FIFA presidency, since the well-known corrupt maggot Joao Havelange stepped down. Back then, the FA knew of how corrupt Havelange was. He and Blatter were close friends and both involved in the ISL scandal which involve large amounts of dirty money exchanging hands. Regardless, Blair's desire to be the prime minister who brought the World Cup back to England drove him to push the FA into running against Germany, reneging on the Gentlemen's agreement with Johansson. Upon hearing this, Havelange took the opportunity to meet Blair personally. He privately assured him that both he and Blatter would back England for the World Cup in 2006, so long as England switched allegiance to Sepp Blatter. Blair pressured the FA to switch allegiance, who, upon hearing the possibility of a successful World Cup bid duly obliged. The majority of commonwealth states switched to Blatter and ergo, Blatter won. Of course, Blatter's interests were not England whatsoever and never have been. His interests have always been firmly with the African nations as there is a lot of dirty money to be made over there. Really, the world, and football in general, needed Johansson to be elected president. His reputation is whiter than white, he is highly regarded in world football. Unfortunately, we threw that opportunity away out of some pathetic vanity and arrogance. We caused the shift which ultimately resulted in Sepp Blatter being president. And if you don't believe me, Google it, it's all well documented on the Internet. Thanks for that metalhead. What a sordid grubby affair
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 9, 2014 12:38:08 GMT
Now, I'm not one of Blair's biggest fans, but I'm struggling to see how he can be in any way blamed for the corruption endemic in FIFA. And who is included in the "we" who are also partly responsible? I've already had this discussion on a few different forums, so I really don't want to go back over it in too much detail but I'll lay out the key points. Basically, there was a Gentleman's agreement in place with Lennart Johansson that in exchange for Germany backing England for Euro 1996, England would back Germany for the 2006 World Cup. Johansson was on the UEFA committee and was to run against Sepp Blatter in 1998 for the first FIFA presidency, since the well-known corrupt maggot Joao Havelange stepped down. Back then, the FA knew of how corrupt Havelange was. He and Blatter were close friends and both involved in the ISL scandal which involve large amounts of dirty money exchanging hands. Regardless, Blair's desire to be the prime minister who brought the World Cup back to England drove him to push the FA into running against Germany, reneging on the Gentlemen's agreement with Johansson. Upon hearing this, Havelange took the opportunity to meet Blair personally. He privately assured him that both he and Blatter would back England for the World Cup in 2006, so long as England switched allegiance to Sepp Blatter. Blair pressured the FA to switch allegiance, who, upon hearing the possibility of a successful World Cup bid duly obliged. The majority of commonwealth states switched to Blatter and ergo, Blatter won. Of course, Blatter's interests were not England whatsoever and never have been. His interests have always been firmly with the African nations as there is a lot of dirty money to be made over there. Really, the world, and football in general, needed Johansson to be elected president. His reputation is whiter than white, he is highly regarded in world football. Unfortunately, we threw that opportunity away out of some pathetic vanity and arrogance. We caused the shift which ultimately resulted in Sepp Blatter being president. And if you don't believe me, Google it, it's all well documented on the Internet. So it's another war Blair took us into that we'll never win?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 13, 2014 17:46:36 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 14, 2014 0:23:19 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Oct 14, 2014 10:40:02 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 14, 2014 10:48:10 GMT
Methinks Blatter could commit murder and walk away with compensation.
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Post by lordb on Oct 14, 2014 11:09:31 GMT
Methinks Blatter could commit murder and walk away with compensation. he probably thinks so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 11:42:05 GMT
nah, i've got my Tena ladies on today
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 24, 2014 8:42:07 GMT
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Post by eddyclamp on Oct 24, 2014 9:06:42 GMT
Well so long as it suit`s the Shit and Liverpool, then we are all happy eh?
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 3, 2014 17:17:22 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 3, 2014 18:02:03 GMT
This is beyond incompetence by FIFA. To even consider Qatar as a venue without first getting advice on the summer climate is unbelievable. If the tornament is staged anytime during the English season then cue dozens of "injuries" to players precluding them from selection. Can you imagine fir a second any of the top PL clubs releasing key players for at least a month in January knowing they may not get them back fit enough for the run in during March - May. It won't happen.
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Post by JoeinOz on Nov 4, 2014 0:52:38 GMT
This is beyond incompetence by FIFA. To even consider Qatar as a venue without first getting advice on the summer climate is unbelievable. If the tornament is staged anytime during the English season then cue dozens of "injuries" to players precluding them from selection. Can you imagine fir a second any of the top PL clubs releasing key players for at least a month in January knowing they may not get them back fit enough for the run in during March - May. It won't happen. Corruption not incompetence.
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Post by 2004 on Nov 4, 2014 8:35:48 GMT
This can't still happen surely?
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 12, 2014 21:43:31 GMT
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Post by harryh157 on Nov 12, 2014 21:49:23 GMT
Just about to post this; a FIFA investigation clears erm FIFA officials ........ I'm convinced!
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Post by sportsman on Nov 12, 2014 22:28:23 GMT
Wish I had the job of investigating it. I'd be sitting in comfort too now and a nice early retirement.
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 12, 2014 23:14:11 GMT
Wonder how many re-writes this had.
More dodgy than a last ditch tackle by Wilko against Arsenal.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 13, 2014 9:35:11 GMT
World Cup inquiry clears Qatar but criticises English FAThe English Football Association has been accused of damaging the image of Fifa and flouting bidding rules in its attempt to stage the 2018 World Cup. A Fifa report says the FA behaved improperly when trying to win the backing of a key voter. Individuals involved in England's bid could now face action following the conclusion of the two-year inquiry.Dyke to resign?
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Post by malisastokie on Nov 13, 2014 9:41:00 GMT
How predictable !
When the domino's finally fall on FIFA it will be a best seller !
I can't believe how bent they are !
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Post by ukcstokie on Nov 13, 2014 9:43:39 GMT
World Cup inquiry clears Qatar but criticises English FAThe English Football Association has been accused of damaging the image of Fifa and flouting bidding rules in its attempt to stage the 2018 World Cup. A Fifa report says the FA behaved improperly when trying to win the backing of a key voter. Individuals involved in England's bid could now face action following the conclusion of the two-year inquiry.Dyke to resign? So, to summarise: FIFA have cleared themselves of corruption and are now going after those who accused them. Well that's perfectly fine then. All fair and above board.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Nov 13, 2014 9:44:22 GMT
An American lawyer's report! From the country that gave us the OJ Simpson trial!
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Post by dazzlerstokecityfc on Nov 13, 2014 9:49:23 GMT
hahah this is the best
"According to the report, the Russian team hired computers that were subsequently destroyed, denying the inquiry access to email accounts"
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Qatar were subsequently accused of paying Fifa officials £3m to secure backing for its bid.
However, they have now been cleared of wrongdoing, although the report said that there were "certain indications of potentially problematic conduct of specific individuals".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 9:49:33 GMT
We should boycott FIFA, what's to lose? an early exit from the World Cup? . If one country would stand up to them you'd see a domino effect across the world, the Dutch haven't held back in their criticism of them recently either. We should grow a pair and stand up to the corrupt muppets.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Nov 13, 2014 9:51:38 GMT
World Cup inquiry clears Qatar but criticises English FAThe English Football Association has been accused of damaging the image of Fifa and flouting bidding rules in its attempt to stage the 2018 World Cup. A Fifa report says the FA behaved improperly when trying to win the backing of a key voter. Individuals involved in England's bid could now face action following the conclusion of the two-year inquiry.Dyke to resign? So, to summarise: FIFA have cleared themselves of corruption and are now going after those who accused them. Well that's perfectly fine then. All fair and above board. So they are saying the President of the, FA Prince William, is corrupt then. Good luck to them on that one.
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