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Post by mozzer on Aug 18, 2013 7:25:50 GMT
As I mixed and chatted to the fantastic Stoke support yesterday on a pre-match piss-up around Liverpool the same old question was asked time after time followed with the same old answer...... Q - "how do you think we will do today" A - "My head says we will get dicked but my heart is hoping for a draw, it is probably the best we can expect here today" Well guess what, we just sacked a bloke that would virtually guarantee a draw at Liverpool because he played for a draw away from home. I suppose we lost looking a little bit prettier in the Liverpool siege so it keeps the ugly football critics off our back. On to Palarce then.
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 18, 2013 7:33:32 GMT
As I mixed and chatted to the fantastic Stoke support yesterday on a pre-match piss-up around Liverpool the same old question was asked time after time followed with the same old answer...... Q - "how do you think we will do today" A - "My head says we will get dicked but my heart is hoping for a draw, it is probably the best we can expect here today" Well guess what, we just sacked a bloke that would virtually guarantee a draw at Liverpool because he played for a draw away from home. I suppose we lost looking a little bit prettier in the Liverpool siege so it keeps the ugly football critics off our back. On to Palarce then. The problem is though, that the same bloke we sacked was starting to use such negative tactics at home. There are also no guarantees in football.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 18, 2013 7:48:57 GMT
"We just sacked a bloke that would virtually guarantee a draw at Liverpool "
I respect your opinion and your right the express it but ...
The shit that's written on here is cronic !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 8:04:16 GMT
we just sacked a bloke that would virtually guarantee a draw at Liverpool... How would a draw have been virtually guaranteed? There is of course absolutely no knowing what the result would have been otherwise. It's pure conjecture. Looking at it solely on its merits, we were beaten by a better team today who were bang on form
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Post by mozzer on Aug 18, 2013 8:38:14 GMT
we just sacked a bloke that would virtually guarantee a draw at Liverpool... How would a draw have been virtually guaranteed? There is of course absolutely no knowing what the result would have been otherwise. It's pure conjecture. Looking at it solely on its merits, we were beaten by a better team today who were bang on form Virtually guaranteed a draw, ..........look at the stats against Liverpool whilst under Pulis I thought Liverpool played really well and we were lucky to only have 1 put past us.......thank you Mr Begovic you were outstanding, I thought we were wasteful with the chance to take a point when it was presented in the 88th minute, and Liverpool playing well against Stoke are hardly Bang on form, it was first match of the season the same as ours with a team gelling.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 18, 2013 8:40:37 GMT
In the draws that we have got at Anfield, we could just as easily been on the end of a thumping given that offensively, we offered absolutely nothing to the game and just sat there hoping not to concede.
Pulis has gone. Get over it!
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Post by lee1982 on Aug 18, 2013 8:41:21 GMT
How would a draw have been virtually guaranteed? There is of course absolutely no knowing what the result would have been otherwise. It's pure conjecture. Looking at it solely on its merits, we were beaten by a better team today who were bang on form Virtually guaranteed a draw, ..........look at the stats against Liverpool whilst under Pulis I thought Liverpool played really well and we were lucky to only have 1 put past us.......thank you Mr Begovic you were outstanding, I thought we were wasteful with the chance to take a point when it was presented in the 88th minute, and Liverpool playing well against Stoke are hardly Bang on form, it was first match of the season the same as ours with a team gelling. if you want to talk about stats under Pulis i feel you will be opening a massive can of worms
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 18, 2013 8:47:08 GMT
Liverpool were comfortably the better team, so there's no harm hoping for a draw. In reality Liverpool were lucky to come out with the 3 points they deserve, We were just wasteful with the penalty.
I doubt you can say we were practically guaranteed a draw under Pulis, if we'd have parked the bus I still think Sturridge, Aspas and Coutinio especially would have found a way through and I would like to say alot more shots on target.
We're going through a transformation were just going to have to be patient as people learn the new role and system. However, for me the signs are looking promising.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 8:51:05 GMT
A huge round of applause for Hughes for getting what he's got out of a pulis squad
And a bigger round of applause to the players that were brought in by pulis, for trying their hardest to change from negative anti football policy they were used to for so many seasons to actually playing the game they love
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 8:53:52 GMT
What a load of bollocks, we were just as likely to get a dicking as a draw there under Pulis and his approach to away games saw most of them end in defeat.
We were a whisker away from achieving what we achieved there under TP despite being universes more positive.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 18, 2013 8:55:22 GMT
The problem pulls had was he was tactically very limited , he may have snatched a point with his embarrassing brand of football . Most teams with smarter managers had worked us out long ago . The Britannia was no longer a fortress for this reason and it became obvious the players didn't believe in it either
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 18, 2013 8:55:53 GMT
He's gone get over it. Time heals and you'll learn to love again.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 8:56:58 GMT
What a load of bollocks, we were just as likely to get a dicking as a draw there under Pulis and his approach to away games saw most of them end in defeat. We were a whisker away from achieving what we achieved there under TP despite being universes more positive. Not to mention Liverpool were very good
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 8:58:08 GMT
What a load of bollocks, we were just as likely to get a dicking as a draw there under Pulis and his approach to away games saw most of them end in defeat. We were a whisker away from achieving what we achieved there under TP despite being universes more positive. We were actually a whisker away from doing something we never did or were likely to do under Pulis. Score a goal at Anfield! As a side note, are we going to get this shit all season?
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Post by stokemark on Aug 18, 2013 9:02:10 GMT
We'd have got a draw if TP's love child could score from the fucking penalty spot
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Post by jonah77 on Aug 18, 2013 9:02:36 GMT
What a load of bollocks, we were just as likely to get a dicking as a draw there under Pulis and his approach to away games saw most of them end in defeat. We were a whisker away from achieving what we achieved there under TP despite being universes more positive. We were actually a whisker away from doing something we never did or were likely to do under Pulis. Score a goal at Anfield! As a side note, are we going to get this shit all season? Most probably after every game where we get a worse result than the season before.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 9:08:43 GMT
We were actually a whisker away from doing something we never did or were likely to do under Pulis. Score a goal at Anfield! As a side note, are we going to get this shit all season? Most probably after every game where we get a worse result than the season before. Regardless of what actually happened in the game?
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Post by 1982stokie on Aug 18, 2013 9:09:34 GMT
I still remember man city last season 11 men behind the ball for 90 minutes and losing 3 nill we didn't even try too attack when we were losing I just hope he gets some new attackers soon
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Post by jonah77 on Aug 18, 2013 9:18:12 GMT
Most probably after every game where we get a worse result than the season before. Regardless of what actually happened in the game? Exactly.Lots of posters on here aren't prepared to give Hughes a chance and have already prepared posts condemning performances/team selection/style of play regardless of how the team actually play.
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Post by xxstokiestanxx on Aug 18, 2013 9:25:15 GMT
Having just watched motd imo on the evidence of how the other teams performed we will be ok this season. Liverpool are a good team and will finish around the top 6 if not in it.Stoke are a team in transition and with one or two additions we may find ourselves top 10 fingers crossed.Baggies and Fulham / Sunderland all looked awful in the highlights that i saw.Cardiff Hull and Palace will struggle as well imo so with the top 4 already sorted i don't think we need to worry to much as long as we make those additions we need.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 18, 2013 9:26:46 GMT
I hope you recorded bt sports coverage, it had tone on, you will love it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 9:35:02 GMT
Had time to reflect. Overall quite pleased with the performance, but we just need two, maybe three higher quality players..I want Crystal Palace to have their bubble burst today and then a win for us next week will get us off the mark.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2013 9:35:56 GMT
How would a draw have been virtually guaranteed? There is of course absolutely no knowing what the result would have been otherwise. It's pure conjecture. Looking at it solely on its merits, we were beaten by a better team today who were bang on form Virtually guaranteed a draw, ..........look at the stats against Liverpool whilst under Pulis I thought Liverpool played really well and we were lucky to only have 1 put past us.......thank you Mr Begovic you were outstanding, I thought we were wasteful with the chance to take a point when it was presented in the 88th minute, and Liverpool playing well against Stoke are hardly Bang on form, it was first match of the season the same as ours with a team gelling. 3 draws and 2 defeats in the league, 1 defeat in the cup. Virtually guaranteed? Far from it. Our past record doesn't have ANY bearing on the result regardless of the manager. Liverpool were on top of their game today. We stayed in the game thanks to a top class performance from Begovic and created a number of decent chances ourselves, 2 of them falling to Huth. We actually gave them things to think about this time and they know that as much as they could have been clear by half time, we could have also gone 1-0 up ourselves; or been level at half time. Regardless of who was in charge, there would have been no guarantee, virtual or otherwise, over the result today. You play what is in front of you on the day and not your past record.
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Post by Ellan Vannin on Aug 18, 2013 9:42:50 GMT
Under Pulis we lost 2 out of 5 so drew 3.
60% draw rate is hardly a guarantee. One of those defeats was a 4-0 dicking.
Also in those three 0-0 we could have easily lost all of them 4-0 with no complaints.
Liverpool are going to put better teams than us under a lot of pressure at home. They have goals in them as they showed towards the end of last season.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 18, 2013 9:43:34 GMT
I said it after the game and now having watched it again this morning and my opinion is the same , Liverpool were fantastic !
Purely from an attacking perspective it was the best performance against stoke that I can remember in my lifetime , I honestly think they were that good , coutinho wow what a player !
Guaranteed a draw , ha ha ha ha !
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Post by liamo on Aug 18, 2013 9:43:48 GMT
Liverpool will be up there this season, much much better than last season, add suarez to the mix and i reckon they'll do well, regardless of what a horrible little scrote he is
As far as we're concerned, first real game playing the new style, away at a top 6 team and we create chances, not just one chance, CHANCES, as well as being quite entertaining, with a few additions before the end of the window and Agudelo in Jan i think we'll be top 10
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Post by starkiller on Aug 18, 2013 9:44:44 GMT
The irony is that the bloke who always played for a draw away from home, ended up losing the vast majority of them.
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 18, 2013 9:45:02 GMT
Edit : best performance Liverpool v stoke
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Aug 18, 2013 9:53:06 GMT
Did he get us a draw in the FA cup against Liverpool? Plus we should've drawn yesterday if it wast for super Jon
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 18, 2013 9:57:08 GMT
What a load of bollocks, we were just as likely to get a dicking as a draw there under Pulis and his approach to away games saw most of them end in defeat. We were a whisker away from achieving what we achieved there under TP despite being universes more positive. We were also a whisker away from a total spudding. Lets not go overboard.
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