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Post by xchpotter on Aug 17, 2013 13:42:38 GMT
Thought he was great today and clearly is comfortable coming out of defence and passing. More of the same please.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 17, 2013 13:43:46 GMT
There was an awful lot of firefighting from him and Huth today. The full backs and midfield completely abandoned them too often.
Both missed very good chances though!
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Post by kingstokie on Aug 17, 2013 13:53:46 GMT
Shawcross can cut it, by the looks. Huth, however. We'll concede 1 or 2 if the defenders keep getting abandoned by the midfielders. Adam should start, he always looks for the ball in that area. Whelan, Wilson and N'zonzi wont!
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Post by Jimm on Aug 17, 2013 13:54:50 GMT
He needs time, hes had Pulis ball bread into him for years, he'll be a better player under Hughes and his staff
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 13:56:07 GMT
There was an awful lot of firefighting from him and Huth today. The full backs and midfield completely abandoned them too often. Both missed very good chances though! We will find out this season just how good/bad they are as they will not have everybody bar Crouch/Jones back defending helping them. Shawcross looked excellent today with only one mistake when Toure hit the bar.
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Post by stokeoptimist on Aug 17, 2013 14:19:22 GMT
Is it possible that Liverpool are actually a really good team and we did well to keep it a close as we did?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 14:24:16 GMT
Shawcross adapted well with the passing I thought, fair play to him....Huth however really worried me. He looked out of sorts and the lack of protection showed him up today. Hopefully he may just need a few more games, not everyone will change instantly. But he did stick out.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 17, 2013 14:26:38 GMT
He surprised me how comfortable he was with the ball at his feet whereas Huth shocked me how he wasn't at times.
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Post by dieguito88 on Aug 17, 2013 14:28:27 GMT
Shawcross adapted well with the passing I thought, fair play to him....Huth however really worried me. He looked out of sorts and the lack of protection showed him up today. Hopefully he may just need a few more games, not everyone will change instantly. But he did stick out. This. Huth distribution is not good. But still a solid defender;)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 17, 2013 14:36:32 GMT
Anybody out there still peddling that bullshit about our skipper not being any good in possession?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 14:38:45 GMT
Fuck passing. Anyone who said he can't pass it across the deck was full of shit.
That is regardless anyway. Passing it short or hitting it long; he can defend. Cahill should take a look.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 17, 2013 14:39:02 GMT
I thought him, Huth and Bego were a defensive island in an "attacking" sea. Attacking is in brackets because we were more attacking but not great. No one else wanted to defend.
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 17, 2013 14:41:27 GMT
Fuck passing. Anyone who said he can't pass it across the deck was full of shit. That is regardless anyway. Passing it short or hitting it long; he can defend. Cahill should take a look. Cahill has other things on his mind. He's still trying to work out where Kenny Miller's gone.
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Post by mynamesnotmark on Aug 17, 2013 14:44:04 GMT
You don't need 2 ball playing centre halves (we possibly have half of one at the minute but Ryan will get there), huth should carry on being huth and not worry about anything else
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 17, 2013 14:45:54 GMT
You don't need 2 ball playing centre halves (we possibly have half of one at the minute but Ryan will get there), huth should carry on being huth and not worry about anything else Agreed. Ryan is plenty good enough at it, Rob can carry on defending.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2013 15:20:11 GMT
You don't need 2 ball playing centre halves (we possibly have half of one at the minute but Ryan will get there), huth should carry on being huth and not worry about anything else Agreed. Ryan is plenty good enough at it, Rob can carry on defending. Yep, I think Huth is brilliant...and the passing issue for him is a red herring. Its not if Huth is bad or good at it, its the fact that everyone else around him is now doing something different leaving him exposed. He will need time to adapt to the lack of protection around him. Ryan seemed better....an example is the amount to time Ryan was playing the ball from the half way line, he managed to adapt his positioning a bit...huth looked like a big lump on his own at times!! (not that id dare say that to his face like!!)
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 17, 2013 15:24:40 GMT
I thought Shawcross was superb today and proved a lot of his doubters (myself happily included) wrong when it comes to his ability with the ball at his feet.
Even though he was superb under Pulis, being able to showcase this talent and grow as a 'ball-playing' center back will do him a world of good and I wouldn't be surprised to see him back in the England set up if we qualify for the world cup. (ignoring the fact that he should be in the England set up now if it wasn't for that hypocritical turbo cunt in charge)
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