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Post by steve66 on Aug 4, 2013 15:52:53 GMT
Lost to Rhyl, Newcastle Town in pre season not too long ago!
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 4, 2013 15:52:54 GMT
All the great teams built from a solid defence ask Fergie, ask Cloughy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 15:53:09 GMT
I agree and I really don't like Walters but if used right he can be an asset. TP used him completely wrong and to rely on such a player was sheer lunacy imo. I honestly don't mind Walters, Pulis left him out to dry. You know what you get with him and every team needs a work horse in the squad who can fill a few positions in and most importantly not complain. That said i still think we need 2 forwards and 2 wingers, maybe even a more creative midfielder. In all honesty the squad left to Hughes is not that good and he has a bigger job on his hands than some think imo. Totally agree - I would like Crouch gone ASAP, and have always preferred KJ to him, but I think that we desperately need 2 new strikers or 1 out and out striker and 1 withdrawn forward, depending upon the Hughes formation. I hope that we see some incoming and outgoing transfers this week because I think we will really be in deep doo-doo this season if we just carry on with what we have now as out "attacking" threat.
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Post by Silkystoke on Aug 4, 2013 15:54:27 GMT
1 0 ft
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Post by jeycov on Aug 4, 2013 15:54:44 GMT
SSN saying that we used 21 different players. Did Shawcross play the full 90 minutes
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 4, 2013 15:55:09 GMT
Our Happy Shopper needs to get busy and fast
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 4, 2013 15:56:21 GMT
I honestly don't mind Walters, Pulis left him out to dry. You know what you get with him and every team needs a work horse in the squad who can fill a few positions in and most importantly not complain. That said i still think we need 2 forwards and 2 wingers, maybe even a more creative midfielder. In all honesty the squad left to Hughes is not that good and he has a bigger job on his hands than some think imo. Totally agree - I would like Crouch gone ASAP, and have always preferred KJ to him, but I think that we desperately need 2 new strikers or 1 out and out striker and 1 withdrawn forward, depending upon the Hughes formation. I hope that we see some incoming and outgoing transfers this week because I think we will really be in deep doo-doo this season if we just carry on with what we have now as out "attacking" threat. Couldn't agree more. I thought at the time that he'd eventually come to the realisation that the squad is a lot weaker than he thought when he took over, and he's probably beginning to realise it.
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 4, 2013 15:56:43 GMT
All the great teams built from a solid defence ask Fergie, ask Cloughy Ah, but they can fucking score. We can't.
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Post by Jimm on Aug 4, 2013 15:58:03 GMT
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 4, 2013 15:58:14 GMT
We have been woeful scorers for two seasons figures say it all all this time to assess the squad bollocks just does not wash to be honest , today against a non league side we manage one from a set play with the same squad no change because nothing has changed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 15:58:47 GMT
The last time the two teams met it was 0-0. Today it was 1-0. Progress ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by Silkystoke on Aug 4, 2013 15:59:12 GMT
its got to be a busy week for Stoke, we need 4 in and poss 3/4 out...Sort it Hughes... please
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 4, 2013 15:59:31 GMT
All the great teams built from a solid defence ask Fergie, ask Cloughy Ah, but they can fucking score. We can't. You don't know how many we will score this season. Different style might create more chances and more goals.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 4, 2013 16:00:04 GMT
The u-21's scored 2 past a Conference side yesterday! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) It all sounds promising barring the obvious though. We need goalscoring strikers and wingers asap.
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Post by liamo on Aug 4, 2013 16:00:06 GMT
Don't read too much in to friendlies myself, i'll reserve judgement until christmas
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 4, 2013 16:00:16 GMT
Ah, but they can fucking score. We can't. You don't know how many we will score this season. Different style might create more chances and more goals. Well that hasn't been the case so far.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 4, 2013 16:01:18 GMT
one from a set piece sounds pretty much the same , its about players good attacking players are needed to score goals and we dont have them
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 4, 2013 16:01:28 GMT
Surprised that Cuvelier hasn't made more of an impression. Seems pretty clear now that he won't make much of an impression this season.
And do we know where Ness is?
Edu isn't match fit is he?
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Post by Jimm on Aug 4, 2013 16:01:33 GMT
I'm worried because we've never been fluent goal scorers, under Pulis is was work from the back, keep a clean sheet and if we score it's a bonus, now Hughes is here it will be alot more open and the main focus wont be on defense, and if we can't address our attacking weakness we will struggle IMO
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Aug 4, 2013 16:02:34 GMT
The last time the two teams met it was 0-0. Today it was 1-0. Progress ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) You have been looking up the stats then Ambassador. Well done Sir. ![(thumbsup)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/q4Mqf5MqRwT9PY8UitYa.gif)
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Post by stokeymad on Aug 4, 2013 16:02:45 GMT
All the people saying we need 2/3/4 players out, do you really think it is as simple as that?
Does anyone even want any of our players? There has only been the odd rumour here and there.
vis unita fortior
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 4, 2013 16:02:50 GMT
You don't know how many we will score this season. Different style might create more chances and more goals. Well that hasn't been the case so far. God you are a pessimistic git. Friendlies mean nothing, I remember us going to Scandinavia pre-season and scoring loads then we couldn't buy a goal when the season started.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 16:04:28 GMT
The last time the two teams met it was 0-0. Today it was 1-0. Progress ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) You have been looking up the stats then Ambassador. Well done Sir. ![(thumbsup)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/q4Mqf5MqRwT9PY8UitYa.gif) I remember the infamous friendly a couple of seasons ago when Fuller was sent off ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif)
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Post by lordb on Aug 4, 2013 16:05:38 GMT
SSN saying that we used 21 different players. Did Shawcross play the full 90 minutes Typical friendly Don't worry too much about them Formation at the start of such games might be an indicator,maybe.
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 4, 2013 16:07:16 GMT
Walters is a great squad player, prepared to do a job anywhere, always gives 100%, never a bad word or a mardy strop. He is a limited footballer but has got where he has through hard work and a positive attitude. There is much to admire about him and I am happy he is in our squad. Do I want him to start every game up front or, even worse, out wide? No, not if we have more skilful options coming in, but I am more than happy to see him get 20 games (some off the bench) and chip in with 6-8 goals. Some of you need to get a grip. I wouldn't say great...... I didn't mean he was great, but that it was great to have players of his ilk in the squad, but you knew that........ ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2013 16:07:21 GMT
We will see some transfer movement this week.
I imagine this meeting between Coates and Hughes will be tomorrow, and that Agudelo (sp) will be announced in the next day or 2, barring the permit.
Then I think we need to move Wilko, Edu, Ethers, Crouch and maybe Jerome and Adam on and bring in a CM/withdrawn striker, a winger and a main striker.
Sinclair, Fabian and Diouf would be perfect but I can only see Diouf being a possibility.
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Aug 4, 2013 16:08:18 GMT
You have been looking up the stats then Ambassador. Well done Sir. ![(thumbsup)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/q4Mqf5MqRwT9PY8UitYa.gif) I remember the infamous friendly a couple of seasons ago when Fuller was sent off ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) It was that, long ago well done for remembering Ambassador. ![(thumbsup)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/q4Mqf5MqRwT9PY8UitYa.gif)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 4, 2013 16:08:36 GMT
I wouldn't say great...... I didn't mean he was great, but that it was great to have players of his ilk in the squad, but you knew that........ ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/cj7bsBj2jOTuEAUVaPt5.gif) I did and I don't think it's great! ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Adequate to good is where I'd hang my hat!
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 4, 2013 16:10:12 GMT
Well that hasn't been the case so far. God you are a pessimistic git. Friendlies mean nothing, I remember us going to Scandinavia pre-season and scoring loads then we couldn't buy a goal when the season started. Yup! Best way be really. You can never be disappointed then. But in all seriousness, nothing has changed. We've been shit in the final third for the past 2 seasons and if you think that will miraculously change this season then you are a deluded fool.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 4, 2013 16:11:34 GMT
God you are a pessimistic git. Friendlies mean nothing, I remember us going to Scandinavia pre-season and scoring loads then we couldn't buy a goal when the season started. Yup! Best way be really. You can never be disappointed then. But in all seriousness, nothing has changed. We've been shit in the final third for the past 2 seasons and if you think that will miraculously change this season then you are a deluded fool. Thanks for the petty name calling!! Just wait and see what happens.
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