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Post by NG4POTTERS on Aug 9, 2013 12:39:00 GMT
I doubt 'most' people on here would be thinking of the fall mate ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Hardly a household name with the youth of today. Cracking band though fella. Mr pharmacist being on of my favourites. The Fall will always mean The Fall. Yes i know that mate, i'm not green when it comes to these matters. Can't imagine your average 21 year old who's into hip hop, dance music or whatever will be thinking, oh yeh the fall, that great band from manchester. That was my point however irrelevant ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/KYqg3pYeaerc5lD_P7BR.gif)
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 9, 2013 12:39:32 GMT
This Agudelo announcement that's been flagged up...
Are we waiting for it to be announced at their end once 9am comes 'round on the east coast of America or what?
If so, should be imminent?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 14:01:43 GMT
This Agudelo announcement that's been flagged up... Are we waiting for it to be announced at their end once 9am comes 'round on the east coast of America or what? If so, should be imminent? I don't know FM - I'm losing the will to live with most of our rumoured signings as they seem to take so long to be completed, barring the Pieters and Muniesa ones of course
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Post by Jimm on Aug 9, 2013 14:12:27 GMT
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Post by steve66 on Aug 9, 2013 14:12:59 GMT
At last it's on official site!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 9, 2013 14:13:44 GMT
Bit disappointing that he's not coming 'til Jan. But positive nonetheless!
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on Aug 9, 2013 14:20:06 GMT
Can't wait to see him in action. Played 60 times in three years and scored 16 goals. The yank version of Big Mama
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Post by blooter on Aug 9, 2013 14:21:20 GMT
Good news but surely he needs a work permit.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Aug 9, 2013 14:24:42 GMT
. . . . and just what do we do precisely until 1st January 2014?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 14:27:11 GMT
. . . . and just what do we do precisely until 1st January 2014? Sign diouf.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 14:28:04 GMT
Good signing for the future.
Seems we were trying to bring him in sooner hence the delay until now?
Next.........?
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 9, 2013 14:44:22 GMT
Does the official announcement herald the end of this saga or is there still a possibility of agreeing a fee for him to join now?
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Post by LphPotter on Aug 9, 2013 14:51:00 GMT
Does the official announcement herald the end of this saga or is there still a possibility of agreeing a fee for him to join now? I'd imagine that he won't be coming until Jan now as that was probably the reason for the delay. Although i could be wrong
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Post by Jimm on Aug 9, 2013 14:54:17 GMT
My opinion, he signed a pre contract last week, hasn't been announced officially until now because we were working on a deal involving a fee, but we could agree with the MLS and the team, so now that's a no go, he will see out his contract and join on the 1st on January for free
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Post by gothicstokelover on Aug 9, 2013 15:47:02 GMT
I posted on the Loud and Prod facebook thread last night that it seems to me that Stoke are operating a two track approach this season. Yes, we are aiming to sign good youngish players who are "first team ready" - players such as Pieters and Diouf. But we are also trying to find young (cheap or free) players who may not be ready for first team starts yet but who look to have potential to challenge for first team starts in the next year or so and who should increase in value as a result. Muniesa was the first of these - interestingly, from his displays in the US he may be closer to first team starts than we thought when we bought him. Agudelo would fall into the same category as Muniesa. I don't know why so many Stokies are concerned about this. It is the sort of thing that the bigger clubs have done for a while. It has the advantage of costing very little in terms of transfer fees and, by Prem standards, comparatively little in terms of wages as these players will be on low basic wages with better money for first team appearances. If, say, one in three of these players makes the grade at Stoke, then we will have acquired a good first teamer at minimal cost. Hopefully another might be sold at a profit and if one in three fails to make the grade it has cost us very little. Compared to £10 million + for Crouch + £40 k per week it looks like a sound policy to me. First thing I've read I completely agree with so far......But I am on page 2 of 15 continues to read....
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Post by liveattheoasis on Aug 9, 2013 15:57:48 GMT
Someone mentioned that Finnish papers were running that we were in with a second bid for Joel Pohjanpalo, seems a similar case. Totally agree with the policy, 18 and 20 year old internationals who have scored goals are welcome here anytime!
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Aug 9, 2013 16:14:04 GMT
Isn't there some way you can grip the pen that keeps you from having pre-contract?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 9, 2013 16:17:08 GMT
Someone mentioned that Finnish papers were running that we were in with a second bid for Joel Pohjanpalo, seems a similar case. Totally agree with the policy, 18 and 20 year old internationals who have scored goals are welcome here anytime! Special talent this lad.
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Post by lordb on Aug 9, 2013 17:03:35 GMT
Someone mentioned that Finnish papers were running that we were in with a second bid for Joel Pohjanpalo, seems a similar case. Totally agree with the policy, 18 and 20 year old internationals who have scored goals are welcome here anytime! Special talent this lad. get him in as well why not? & Max Clayton & some other good young players if singing young players is a risk minimise the rtisk by getting two or three rather than one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 17:12:33 GMT
Rock me Agudelo
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Post by smiler_andy on Aug 9, 2013 18:00:48 GMT
I posted on the Loud and Prod facebook thread last night that it seems to me that Stoke are operating a two track approach this season. Yes, we are aiming to sign good youngish players who are "first team ready" - players such as Pieters and Diouf. But we are also trying to find young (cheap or free) players who may not be ready for first team starts yet but who look to have potential to challenge for first team starts in the next year or so and who should increase in value as a result. Muniesa was the first of these - interestingly, from his displays in the US he may be closer to first team starts than we thought when we bought him. Agudelo would fall into the same category as Muniesa. I don't know why so many Stokies are concerned about this. It is the sort of thing that the bigger clubs have done for a while. It has the advantage of costing very little in terms of transfer fees and, by Prem standards, comparatively little in terms of wages as these players will be on low basic wages with better money for first team appearances. If, say, one in three of these players makes the grade at Stoke, then we will have acquired a good first teamer at minimal cost. Hopefully another might be sold at a profit and if one in three fails to make the grade it has cost us very little. Compared to £10 million + for Crouch + £40 k per week it looks like a sound policy to me. First thing I've read I completely agree with so far......But I am on page 2 of 15 continues to read.... I agree . Having lost $30m last season it seems this season we are what I would call using common sense.
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Post by prettything on Aug 9, 2013 18:17:34 GMT
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Post by fca47 on Aug 9, 2013 18:31:31 GMT
Can we apply for the work permit in advance? At least we would know whether he's really coming.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2013 18:46:34 GMT
Can we apply for the work permit in advance? At least we would know whether he's really coming. It'd seem foolish that we couldn't.......so it's probably a no. Does anyone know how long the contract he pre-signed is?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 9, 2013 18:48:07 GMT
The fact that we are prepared to wait until January without seemingly giving it a real go tells you all you need to know about the readiness of the player for Premier League football now or in the immediate future.
One for the distant future not for any relegation battle.
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Post by jonnybravo on Aug 9, 2013 19:00:50 GMT
If there is a chance we might not get diouf we need him in ASAP
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Post by jbstokie on Aug 9, 2013 19:12:32 GMT
The fact that we are prepared to wait until January without seemingly giving it a real go tells you all you need to know about the readiness of the player for Premier League football now or in the immediate future. One for the distant future not for any relegation battle. Not much point having 5 strikers if we're only going to play one, if he gets games in America it will be better than not making the bench here.
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Post by foxysgloves on Aug 9, 2013 19:13:22 GMT
The fact that we are prepared to wait until January without seemingly giving it a real go tells you all you need to know about the readiness of the player for Premier League football now or in the immediate future. One for the distant future not for any relegation battle. It might also tell us that cash is now being controlled much more tightly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2013 20:37:51 GMT
Fast forward to 4:13.
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Post by robrigo on Aug 9, 2013 20:49:33 GMT
Welcome to Stoke Juan.(in January of course)
Told you he would sign. Now Diouf please Stoke.
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