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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 6, 2013 15:18:07 GMT
Think he had close to 1 in 2 so far this season, or maybe it was last season? 3 in 5 this season. Been injured for a bit though....which is obviously the other worry about him. On a free or for peanuts he's worth the gamble though. 3 in 5 for his current club and a similar record for the other club he was at this season. So his overall record this season is something like 6 in 12 or 13. I'm sure one of our US posters will dig out the stats. EDIT: it is 5 in 11 according to the article on his signing linked two posts up the board.
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Post by italianstokie1 on Aug 6, 2013 15:18:47 GMT
The best Revs young player is Diego Fagundez, pure class. Agudelo is a pretty god player, in my opinion he is not a centre forward but a left winger.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2013 15:25:15 GMT
3 in 5 this season. Been injured for a bit though....which is obviously the other worry about him. On a free or for peanuts he's worth the gamble though. 3 in 5 for his current club and a similar record for the other club he was at this season. So his overall record this season is something like 6 in 12 or 13. I'm sure one of our US posters will dig out the stats. EDIT: it is 5 in 11 according to the article on his signing linked two posts up the board. Which is good but his career record is bang average and he's been out for the past 7 weeks. Expecting him to do much with us from the off is unrealistic imo. If he does though excellent but if he doesn't we can't write him off like a good number have done with Shea.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 6, 2013 15:31:41 GMT
As he is U21 then he would not impact on our squad restrictions should he join us
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Post by Maccca100 on Aug 6, 2013 15:33:47 GMT
Signed on a pre contract basis for 1st Jan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 15:39:15 GMT
3 in 5 this season. Been injured for a bit though....which is obviously the other worry about him. On a free or for peanuts he's worth the gamble though. 3 in 5 for his current club and a similar record for the other club he was at this season. So his overall record this season is something like 6 in 12 or 13. I'm sure one of our US posters will dig out the stats. EDIT: it is 5 in 11 according to the article on his signing linked two posts up the board. Close to 1 in 2 then
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 6, 2013 15:40:35 GMT
3 in 5 for his current club and a similar record for the other club he was at this season. So his overall record this season is something like 6 in 12 or 13. I'm sure one of our US posters will dig out the stats. EDIT: it is 5 in 11 according to the article on his signing linked two posts up the board. Which is good but his career record is bang average and he's been out for the past 7 weeks. Expecting him to do much with us from the off is unrealistic imo. If he does though excellent but if he doesn't we can't write him off like a good number have done with Shea. I haven't written him off, nor am I expecting too much too soon. Personally, I hope he signs this summer if only because he'd be a "dead man walking" if he stayed in the US until the end of their season. When he comes I'd expect a few weeks of training to get up to speed after his injury followed by a few opportunities from the bench. What happens after that is entirely down to him, which is as it should be. The good thing is that he must have something about him for Klinsmann to to give him 17 caps at age 20 and at that age he is young enough to improve. I'm not over the moon with the signing but hopeful that it will prove to be a good bit of business. Players like him and Muniesa are the sort of players bigger clubs have been taking a punt on for years and I have no problems with us following suit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2013 15:44:02 GMT
Which is good but his career record is bang average and he's been out for the past 7 weeks. Expecting him to do much with us from the off is unrealistic imo. If he does though excellent but if he doesn't we can't write him off like a good number have done with Shea. I haven't written him off, nor am I expecting too much too soon. Personally, I hope he signs this summer if only because he'd be a "dead man walking" if he stayed in the US until the end of their season. When he comes I'd expect a few weeks of training to get up to speed after his injury followed by a few opportunities from the bench. What happens after that is entirely down to him, which is as it should be. The good thing is that he must have something about him for Klinsmann to to give him 17 caps at age 20 and at that age he is young enough to improve. I'm not over the moon with the signing but hopeful that it will prove to be a good bit of business. Players like him and Muniesa are the sort of players bigger clubs have been taking a punt on for years and I have no problems with us following suit. I know You haven't but people will especially with the striker/winger situation we have. And I don't have a problem with it either, I just think alongside we need some proven players. Hopefully they'll soon follow. Of more importance is selling some of the players we have already though. One for the future is this fella.
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Post by droz on Aug 6, 2013 15:44:06 GMT
Which is good but his career record is bang average and he's been out for the past 7 weeks. Expecting him to do much with us from the off is unrealistic imo. If he does though excellent but if he doesn't we can't write him off like a good number have done with Shea. I haven't written him off, nor am I expecting too much too soon. Personally, I hope he signs this summer if only because he'd be a "dead man walking" if he stayed in the US until the end of their season. When he comes I'd expect a few weeks of training to get up to speed after his injury followed by a few opportunities from the bench. What happens after that is entirely down to him, which is as it should be. The good thing is that he must have something about him for Klinsmann to to give him 17 caps at age 20 and at that age he is young enough to improve. I'm not over the moon with the signing but hopeful that it will prove to be a good bit of business. Players like him and Muniesa are the sort of players bigger clubs have been taking a punt on for years and I have no problems with us following suit. You've summed up pretty much what I think Forny. Lots of potential, don't expect too much, let him settle in, could be explosive.
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Post by unknown182 on Aug 6, 2013 16:03:04 GMT
LB ?@buenosoccer 28m Juan Agudelo will join Stoke in January. He'll re-join his ego which has been in Europe for a couple of years.
Ha!
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Post by foster on Aug 6, 2013 16:08:09 GMT
Pleased, but not so happy about having to wait until January.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2013 16:20:46 GMT
Well, a positive development at last!
Surely they will accept a modest fee for a summer move in the end.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2013 16:22:28 GMT
I can't see why they wouldn't, owt is better than nowt.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2013 16:24:42 GMT
How much of the fee would NE Revs get?
If not much, they may be inclined to keep him to until Jan to try and get into the play-offs or whatever it is they have, rather than take a small % of a smallish fee?
Dunno if they're in the hunt for them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2013 16:25:25 GMT
It's not down to them is it? I thought the MLS controlled it all?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2013 16:26:18 GMT
It's not down to them is it? I thought the MLS controlled it all? I can't remember. Don't the club also have some kind of veto power?
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Post by apb1979 on Aug 6, 2013 16:26:42 GMT
I think he will be our No 4 striker & will probably replace Jerome once he's up to speed to the pace of the premier league.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2013 16:28:26 GMT
He sounds like he could play wide in a 4-3-3 though?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2013 16:31:47 GMT
It's not down to them is it? I thought the MLS controlled it all? I can't remember. Don't the club also have some kind of veto power? Not a clue. Jerome will stay I hope, I can't see why we'd let him go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 16:33:02 GMT
I think this lad will be very close to being a regular starter when he gets here, Hughes thinks a lot of him.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 6, 2013 16:34:25 GMT
It's not down to them is it? I thought the MLS controlled it all? I can't remember. Don't the club also have some kind of veto power? I'm sure I remember reading that we negotiated a deal with Houston before the MLS became involved, when we signed Geoff.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2013 16:36:55 GMT
I can't remember. Don't the club also have some kind of veto power? I'm sure I remember reading that we negotiated a deal with Houston before the MLS became involved, when we signed Geoff. We did but didn't the MLS still have the right to reject it? That's how I remember it anyway.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2013 16:37:42 GMT
Could a work permit still be an issue?
They seem to be able to maneuver a special talent dispensation most of the time, but doesn't sound open and shut based on his caps.
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Post by mrpickles on Aug 6, 2013 16:42:56 GMT
I'm sure I remember reading that we negotiated a deal with Houston before the MLS became involved, when we signed Geoff. We did but didn't the MLS still have the right to reject it? That's how I remember it anyway. Yeah, was just saying that the club must have some say, if we have to negotiate a deal with them first. Probably not a lot in the scheme of things though.
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Post by gaznandi on Aug 6, 2013 16:42:56 GMT
"@briansciaretta: Juan Agudelo's case to get a UK work permit really will test the boundaries. 0 caps in 2013, 1 in 2012. Tough case"
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Post by kitkatkev on Aug 6, 2013 16:43:00 GMT
He is a striker that plays on the shoulder of the last defender.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 6, 2013 16:43:30 GMT
Could a work permit still be an issue? They seem to be able to maneuver a special talent dispensation most of the time, but doesn't sound open and shut based on his caps. I think 17 caps by age 20 would qualify him under the Special Talent dispensation. Time will tell.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 6, 2013 16:43:41 GMT
This guy seems to think there might potentially be a problem? Juan Agudelo's case to get a UK work permit really will test the boundaries. 0 caps in 2013, 1 in 2012. Tough case But I don't think it's a slam dunk for Agudelo
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 6, 2013 16:46:15 GMT
We did but didn't the MLS still have the right to reject it? That's how I remember it anyway. Yeah, was just saying that the club must have some say, if we have to negotiate a deal with them first. Probably not a lot in the scheme of things though. In the end I think it was Houston who pushed it through wasn't it? The MLS wanted more but Houston were willing to let him go. If anything I guess the reverse will be in action here but that should be to our favour if indeed the MLS control like I think they do.
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Post by rambob on Aug 6, 2013 16:50:19 GMT
Hold my biscuits for me, What have I missed? Is it the work permit classic again?
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