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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2013 3:16:43 GMT
I'm watching it back now through the stream. It was Wilko with the through ball for the peno! Jerome is a diving bastard. And it's never a red in a million years. He shinned him if anything, the two stuff above is just bullshit!
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Post by stokie1 on Jul 28, 2013 3:19:39 GMT
lyndsay was the highlight for sure!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2013 3:19:59 GMT
It was more clumsy than malicious though, if it was malicious his leg would be in two. It looked pretty farcical to me but if when the highlights come out with a better quality and it's as bad as people are making out, I'll hold my hands up! But it looked pretty fairyish to me. Whelan, Palacios, Shawcross, N'Zonzi, Muniesa and Pieters are the positives from that. Proper game it's a yellow, not a red (no malice, I think). Friendly it's a red, I reckon, just to calm stuff down. Ryan lucky not to be carded for his cynical challenge (wrong footed), but no need in a friendly. Had most of the possession. Look a bit vunerable, at times, without the cage. 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 seem to make sense given the squad (at the moment) and two big forwards to choose from (at the moment). We'll counter attack when we can, but the big change is hanging on to it in midfield when we can't. I can't see Adam and Pally starting together too many times. But out of the 4 or 5 possibles there looks to be a few decent combinations in there (all with Nzonzi involved, I would think). Difficult to judge much else from that game. Everyone happy enough, I think. Nite all (weird for me to type that and not be the one going to bed ... now you all know how we feel every Sunday morning ) Isn't the logic usually in a friendly it's a talking to if it's a yellow in a game? It's not our fault they're a bunch of pussy's is it!? After watching it back now I don't think it's even worth a yellow. Any road I'm going bed!
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Post by Sfance on Jul 28, 2013 3:24:26 GMT
Not so pleased as most. The midfield played well, and OK at the back MOST of the time. It's the rest of the time that's worrying. They should've scored a couple at least. The big problem remains goal-scoring. Crouch is a dead loss. Jones wasn't much good in the first half either. Jerome was the best of the three but still not good enough for the Prem. Etherington, for all the work he did, can't beat a man. We're a long way from being where we need to be. Crouch just has to go. He's an embarrassment, all he does is fall over.
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Post by oman on Jul 28, 2013 4:09:53 GMT
Just got back. Good time.
1) Shame on you, picking on our young players that way!
2) Huth is a big boy.
3) Good god it was a joy to see Crouch. You see that guy in real life for the first time and its completely WTF??!!. But then you see the crosses going his way and it makes some sense. Shea would do better in his place. As would many.
4) You all need some little tiny latin american players (< 5' 7") just for diversity's sake.
Hope the feed was okay. I'm sure I will enjoy your surly comments.
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Post by oman on Jul 28, 2013 4:18:47 GMT
LONDON WOODBERRY...... Thought you'd enjoy that name...
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Jul 28, 2013 4:53:45 GMT
Poor refereeing - he was the only man in the ground who saw the pen, justice served with the save. From the melee wilko gave away a poor tackle and was red carded in a friendly . Three yellows will also leave Stoke questioning the validity of this match unless the ref doesn't report them. Great saw by Tommy at the end which preserved the victory thanks to a fine goal from SJW. Much more passing and watch out for more of a rotation policy on our three keepers next season, both games have seen programmes issued. I would be happy to exchange for any other stoke per-season games first XI U-21 or U-18 anyone out there interesting in exchanging? Mine are ll mint condition,
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Post by nutterpotter on Jul 28, 2013 5:29:12 GMT
Anyone got a link for the goal?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 28, 2013 5:29:15 GMT
Poor refereeing - he was the only man in the ground who saw the pen, justice served with the save. From the melee wilko gave away a poor tackle and was red carded in a friendly . Three yellows will also leave Stoke questioning the validity of this match unless the ref doesn't report them. Great saw by Tommy at the end which preserved the victory thanks to a fine goal from SJW. Much more passing and watch out for more of a rotation policy on our three keepers next season, both games have seen programmes issued. I would be happy to exchange for any other stoke per-season games first XI U-21 or U-18 anyone out there interesting in exchanging? Mine are ll mint condition, How do three yellows in a friendly become a problem for Stoke? The red will be a problem if the referee decides report it, as Wilko could start the league season with a ban. But the yellows have no lasting effect - they are not carried over to the league season.
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Post by chicagostokie on Jul 28, 2013 5:34:32 GMT
Not so pleased as most. The midfield played well, and OK at the back MOST of the time. It's the rest of the time that's worrying. They should've scored a couple at least. The big problem remains goal-scoring. Crouch is a dead loss. Jones wasn't much good in the first half either. Jerome was the best of the three but still not good enough for the Prem. Etherington, for all the work he did, can't beat a man. We're a long way from being where we need to be. Crouch just has to go. He's an embarrassment, all he does is fall over. Confused in relation to what your expected. Hughes inherited the least attacking team ever to play in the Premier League and he hasn't had time to address it. We sign a very solid looking LB, a player from Barcelona who seems like he will be knocking on the door to the first team and we also tried to play football. Palacious looked decent, Znonzi looked superb, and Adam but in a good shift. We have a very strong defence and midfield, a few offensive weapons and we are a damn good team. What so you want? Jones or Crouch to turn into superstars? It's as plain as a vale fans face that's we need width and pace. Pennant will help, and then hopefully one more new winger. Forwards don't score without service. In general we knocked the ball around well, created chances and looked good. It's a friendly so I won't get carried away. But pointing out the obvious certainly adds no value. Hopefully a couple of new faces and we have a very good season ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 5:45:42 GMT
Win, lose or draw. Its still only a friendly. It means nothing.
Its all about the fitness.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 28, 2013 6:06:01 GMT
Not so pleased as most. The midfield played well, and OK at the back MOST of the time. It's the rest of the time that's worrying. They should've scored a couple at least. The big problem remains goal-scoring. Crouch is a dead loss. Jones wasn't much good in the first half either. Jerome was the best of the three but still not good enough for the Prem. Etherington, for all the work he did, can't beat a man. We're a long way from being where we need to be. Crouch just has to go. He's an embarrassment, all he does is fall over. Confused in relation to what your expected. Hughes inherited the least attacking team ever to play in the Premier League and he hasn't had time to address it. We sign a very solid looking LB, a player from Barcelona who seems like he will be knocking on the door to the first team and we also tried to play football. Palacious looked decent, Znonzi looked superb, and Adam but in a good shift. We have a very strong defence and midfield, a few offensive weapons and we are a damn good team. What so you want? Jones or Crouch to turn into superstars? It's as plain as a vale fans face that's we need width and pace. Pennant will help, and then hopefully one more new winger. Forwards don't score without service. In general we knocked the ball around well, created chances and looked good. It's a friendly so I won't get carried away. But pointing out the obvious certainly adds no value. Hopefully a couple of new faces and we have a very good season ahead. It was nice to see us trying to pass it around but one couldn't help thinking that in a competitive game where they would be pressed more they would have been caught in possession more and the fact remains some of our players do not look comfortable with the ball at their feet. But I can see that certain players are trying to play and try things which is encouraging. The goal was excellent build up play.
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Post by AlanHansen on Jul 28, 2013 6:06:53 GMT
Not so pleased as most. The midfield played well, and OK at the back MOST of the time. It's the rest of the time that's worrying. They should've scored a couple at least. The big problem remains goal-scoring. Crouch is a dead loss. Jones wasn't much good in the first half either. Jerome was the best of the three but still not good enough for the Prem. Etherington, for all the work he did, can't beat a man. We're a long way from being where we need to be. Crouch just has to go. He's an embarrassment, all he does is fall over. Will you ever stop bastard moaning?
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Post by fca47 on Jul 28, 2013 6:35:45 GMT
Only saw the second half. We were trying to play it out from the back and keep possession but as soon as we got it in the opponents half we lost possession again. The possession we had didn't translate into chances. Also the defence looked very vulnerable to people running at them with the ball. In that half I would say they made twice as many chances as we did. I agree the forward line doesn't fit with how are trying to play.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 7:15:42 GMT
We won.
Best team in the world. Champions league next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 7:22:16 GMT
KJ looking the real deal and far better suited to the new style . Let selection by merit commence
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 7:34:35 GMT
If you havent seen it type FC Dallas V Stoke City Video into google and the first link is the full match on YouTube.
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Post by jonnybravo on Jul 28, 2013 7:37:16 GMT
We tried to play abit of football and keep possesion which is good enough for me,Glad we won for our American fans that went the game
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Post by block27row27 on Jul 28, 2013 7:44:58 GMT
And excited! Watching the Dallas game has given me immense hope. The football is attractive for once, palacios is fit and the players who were strangled under the Pulis regime are stepping up and showing their true ability. Brilliant!
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Post by infullerwetrust on Jul 28, 2013 7:52:33 GMT
Regardless of how bad Wilko's challenge 'looked' it was a bit pointless and especially at the stage of the game, not sure what Hughes will make of that. I know he is obviously on this side of the fence now, but he was quite vocal about his challenge on Dembele again at a time we were just seeing the game out. I personally still feel we could do with a another RB.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 28, 2013 8:06:33 GMT
I didn't watch the second half, how did it finish?
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Post by Nick1984 on Jul 28, 2013 8:12:49 GMT
I didn't watch the second half, how did it finish? 1-0 (Walters)
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 28, 2013 8:43:14 GMT
I didn't watch the second half, how did it finish? 1-0 (Walters) Cheers.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 28, 2013 8:43:37 GMT
Hard to draw any conclusions, but it was pass-pass-pass-pass-pass.
He really is drumming it into them. Whether that's sustainable with this group, without major additions, in a Premier game is open to debate.
Interesting that Cameron has now got the best part of both games at right-back. Don't know what we read into that. Shotton, Wilson or Wilko could easily have been given big chunks there - but weren't.
Cuvelier doesn't seem to have got a look-in at all.
He's giving Palacios a chance, but I still think he'll be found wanting in a fast-paced Prem game. It's like night and day with the pedestrian pace of that game sadly. He wa simpressive on the US tour last year, then was never seen again once the real stuff started.
Wilson - Hmm. What's going to happen to him?
Nzonzi - class act.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2013 8:44:30 GMT
I still think we look a bit uncomfortable and could do with a 2 wingers and a forward.
That said friendlies are played at about 80% if that so its hard to judge.
Either way we have a few more weeks to keep sharpening up and improve with hopefully a few new signings too.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 28, 2013 9:03:45 GMT
Quite impressed though we defo miss some pace up front and out wide.
That said we were without Shea and Pennant.Thought the side was a mix of our best 11 first half and second.
Conclusions
- Palacios can be like a new player. Excellent tonight.
- Best midfield 3 Palacios, NZonzi, Adam.
- Eric Pieters looks a sound signing.
- We need a new striker or 2 and need to get rid of Crouchy ASAP he looked uninterested.
- Wilko would not have impressed Hughes with a ridiculous challenge.
- Bego and Sorro are excellent.
- We already look better on the ball.
- Wilson won't get many games unless he's played at RB where Ithink he's our best option.
- NZonzi for all his petulance has to stay.
- Muniessa looks fine.
- Kightly looks hungry and worth a squad place.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 28, 2013 9:17:59 GMT
I still think we are lacking the pace out wide. Hopefully when Shea is back he can offer that on the left but i'm not sure about Pennant because i've not seen him play for over a year.
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Post by Meggsy on Jul 28, 2013 9:24:13 GMT
- Wilson won't get many games unless he's played at RB where Ithink he's our best option. - Kightly looks hungry and worth a squad place I take it you are still under the influence? Don't be so daft, Marc Wilson is not a right back and Michael Kightly is not good enough to wash my boots on a Sunday never mind get anywhere near our team.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 28, 2013 9:30:46 GMT
- Wilson won't get many games unless he's played at RB where Ithink he's our best option. - Kightly looks hungry and worth a squad place I take it you are still under the influence? Don't be so daft, Marc Wilson is not a right back and Michael Kightly is not good enough to wash my boots on a Sunday never mind get anywhere near our team. - Kightly shouldn't be starting. I agree but I think we could see a new player under Hughes and I do think he could be a useful squad player. - I do think Wilson would be better on the right and he did play LB all last season so knows what it's all about. No I'm not under the influence
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 28, 2013 9:41:37 GMT
Crouch out, Hoilett in + buy another striker. It's easy isn't it?
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