finchy
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Post by finchy on Jul 23, 2013 12:01:04 GMT
Happy with our signings so far. Looks like we are close to Oliviera, and Diouf may still be on the cards. We have said we are looking to brink in a striker so you can almost guarantee we will get someone. I'd like to see another winger as well. As for the 3 clubs mentioned, I think each have made at least 4 quality additions to their squad. Villa and Southampton also looking strong. I think only Sunderland will finish below us out of that lot! I think we will be a serious force and can pose a serious threat to the likes of West Brom and Villa next season if we're successful in our signings. Bego Wilson - Huth - Shawcross - Pieters Muniesa - N'Zonzi Walters - Oliveira - Hoilett Diouf
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2013 12:07:15 GMT
I aren't overly concerned. There's still plenty of time and we have a much better starting place than 2 of the 3.
Norwich though have made some excellent signings before we signed Pieters all of them would get in our side I would have thought. Barring Nash obviously.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 23, 2013 12:08:53 GMT
Happy with our signings so far. Looks like we are close to Oliviera, and Diouf may still be on the cards. We have said we are looking to brink in a striker so you can almost guarantee we will get someone. I'd like to see another winger as well. As for the 3 clubs mentioned, I think each have made at least 4 quality additions to their squad. Villa and Southampton also looking strong. I think only Sunderland will finish below us out of that lot! I think we will be a serious force and can pose a serious threat to the likes of West Brom and Villa next season if we're successful in our signings. Bego Wilson - Huth - Shawcross - Pieters Muniesa - N'Zonzi Walters - Oliveira - Hoilett Diouf
Walters out wide?!
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Post by fortressbritannia on Jul 23, 2013 12:15:41 GMT
It's not quantity we need it's quality.
Another 2 possibly 3 quality signings and that's us done.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 23, 2013 15:03:13 GMT
Norwich have made some cracking signings Most would walk in to our team Swansea have strengthend well 4 weeks left or not, early cracking business Meanwhile ours is underwhelming Never thought I would see the day when a stoke fan would think signing a Dutch international, a Spanish under 21 international from Barcelona and potentially a Portuguese international striker was underwhelming. Pieters is someone we have been crying out for granted The Barca chappie is a bit of an unknown really But high hopes even though Conna work out where he would play And that is it I think we 2 or 3 more and compared to Naaarwich, yes I do think it is under whelming
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 23, 2013 15:14:56 GMT
Still banging the
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Post by hollybush on Jul 23, 2013 15:15:00 GMT
Is there never enough of this shit? Who cares what other teams are signing? Every window teams sign a load of players. Every window some of them are good, some of them are useless. If you sign loads of players early, they're the ones that there's not much rush for, apart from the odd gem. Every window it's the same, it's fucking boring and irrelevant. First it's a good idea in life not to get too insular and take a look around an see what is happening elsewhere. You can learn from it, good or bad. What other teams are doing may be 'fucking boring' to you but it's certainly not 'irrelevant' to our situation unless you don't care how we do next season. Second, if you weren't in such a hurry to get yourself all wound up you would have read my original post where I did say that I thought such a level of change may be too much. First, it's irrelevant who anybody else signs, because we haven't signed them. They can have only minimal effect on our season, unless we're going to completely abrogate responsibility for our own destiny. It's the players WE sign and the way WE play that will decide how well we do this season. Second, if you think it's a step too much, why bring it up in such detail, unless it's a not-so-subtle criticism of the club's transfer dealings? I have no agenda, beyond wanting the team to do as well as possible and play as entertainingly as possible, given the various strictures they are performing under. There is little or no point in being negative when nobody has seen a ball kicked in anger, yet the doom-mongers are at it in spades. It gets right on my tits.
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Post by slozenger on Jul 23, 2013 15:22:37 GMT
Could this thread not be morphed into the relegation places thread? 18-Swansea City 9pts 19-Sunderland 8pts 20-Norwich City 6pts That'd do me
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Post by Gods on Jul 23, 2013 15:35:59 GMT
First it's a good idea in life not to get too insular and take a look around an see what is happening elsewhere. You can learn from it, good or bad. What other teams are doing may be 'fucking boring' to you but it's certainly not 'irrelevant' to our situation unless you don't care how we do next season. Second, if you weren't in such a hurry to get yourself all wound up you would have read my original post where I did say that I thought such a level of change may be too much. First, it's irrelevant who anybody else signs, because we haven't signed them. They can have only minimal effect on our season, unless we're going to completely abrogate responsibility for our own destiny. It's the players WE sign and the way WE play that will decide how well we do this season. Second, if you think it's a step too much, why bring it up in such detail, unless it's a not-so-subtle criticism of the club's transfer dealings? I have no agenda, beyond wanting the team to do as well as possible and play as entertainingly as possible, given the various strictures they are performing under. There is little or no point in being negative when nobody has seen a ball kicked in anger, yet the doom-mongers are at it in spades. It gets right on my tits. Still no evidence you actually read the OP. Here was my conclusion: "I hope/expect that the level of change these clubs have implemented will hold them up rather than help them short term at least" If that is doom mongering "in spades" then I give up, it's not even negative. I'm not going to apologise for the detail you don't like, without it I don't know how we can meaningfully debate the merits of the different approaches. This is a debating forum, I think...
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Post by hollybush on Jul 23, 2013 15:42:09 GMT
Gods, you're right, I didn't read it properly, and I see you hope it will have a detrimental effect on the clubs. I still think it's irrelevant, but so it goes.
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Post by Gods on Jul 23, 2013 15:44:52 GMT
Gods, you're right, I didn't read it properly, and I see you hope it will have a detrimental effect on the clubs. I still think it's irrelevant, but so it goes. No probs, you are right to think most of my posts are negative, just that this one wasn't
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Post by hollybush on Jul 23, 2013 15:50:46 GMT
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Post by AlanHansen on Jul 23, 2013 15:54:29 GMT
I think in real terms we could consider Butland and Shea as new signings, plus were linked with a couple more so we could easilly be matching the business of those above us...agree that Norwich have signed well though, would have loved to have seen Fer,Wolfswinkel and Redmond at The Brit Shea. Talk about clutching at straws.
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Post by gb on Jul 23, 2013 15:55:55 GMT
Have they panick bought and just bought crap ?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Jul 23, 2013 15:58:12 GMT
'....plus were linked with a couple more so we could easilly be matching the business of those above us' Now we're counting players we may have signed
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 23, 2013 16:26:15 GMT
In Hughes we have a manager who made tons of signings that i am sure appeared good at the time with QPR, only for almost all od them to flop. I am hoping he has learnt from this approach, and that he goes for quality at the right price, rather than quantity. I wouldn't worry what others do. He has addressed areas in need, and i am sure he will bring in at least 1 winger/striker in the next month. this we have a solid base and the signs are that Hughes learnt from his mistake at QPR. There must be a temptation for new managers to build completely new teams with players they sign themselves. So far Im glad he is focusing on our obviously weak areas and judging what we have in the current squad already. We have GOOD footballers at the club that were not allowed to express themselves. But for sure there is some decent signings going on with our main competitors in the league. Norwich and Swansea will be doing better on paper, but maybe Laudrup is going for too many changes in one? A team full of foreigners brought into the Premier League tends to struggle when the weather gets colder and the football gets feistier. I would tip them to be the next QPR out of anyone
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 17:06:20 GMT
One thing folk have to remember is all those clubs haven't changed managers like we have! Hughes is doing the sensible thing by flying his squad out and evaluating it for himself before rushing into signings. He clearly knew we needed a left back so snapped up pieters and also brought on a potential gem in muniesa. Upto yet it's nothing more than superb management but obviously some cant grasp that.
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2013 17:11:07 GMT
One thing folk have to remember is all those clubs haven't changed managers like we have! Hughes is doing the sensible thing by flying his squad out and evaluating it for himself before rushing into signings. He clearly knew we needed a left back so snapped up pieters and also brought on a potential gem in muniesa. Upto yet it's nothing more than superb management but obviously some cant grasp that. a good point about the change in managers I'm pleased Hughes is taking the approach he has,if thats what you mean by superb management then I agree However we dont really know much about Muneisa & whilst Pieters looks the part there have been enough dodgy comments from Holland about to him to at least have some doubts TP last year failed to replace Pennant - well he bought Kightly who failed - now we need Hughes to get some creativity in or else we will still struggle for goals. Imho we dont need 7 or 8 players but we do need 1 quality creative player this window minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 17:26:06 GMT
One thing folk have to remember is all those clubs haven't changed managers like we have! Hughes is doing the sensible thing by flying his squad out and evaluating it for himself before rushing into signings. He clearly knew we needed a left back so snapped up pieters and also brought on a potential gem in muniesa. Upto yet it's nothing more than superb management but obviously some cant grasp that. a good point about the change in managers I'm pleased Hughes is taking the approach he has,if thats what you mean by superb management then I agree However we dont really know much about Muneisa & whilst Pieters looks the part there have been enough dodgy comments from Holland about to him to at least have some doubts TP last year failed to replace Pennant - well he bought Kightly who failed - now we need Hughes to get some creativity in or else we will still struggle for goals. Imho we dont need 7 or 8 players but we do need 1 quality creative player this window minimum. Your right we don't know much about pieters or muniesa, but lets face it nobody knows what these players are like other teams have signed! Signing 8 or 9 players can have a opposite effect on some teams, I agree we need two or three real quality players, I'm willing hive pieters the benefit of the doubt so that leaves two players to get in which I'm sure he will. But firstly he's evaluating it for himself which shows me a level Headed bloke that as learned from previous mistakes
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Post by mateybass on Jul 23, 2013 23:24:47 GMT
I'm not in the least worried by the lack of signings, the ones we've made seem to address the immediate areas of concern and the mere fact that the players we already have are likely to be played in their CORRECT positions will be like a whole bunch of new signings anyway
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 24, 2013 9:04:02 GMT
Signing untested players in the Premiershit from abroad is always risky. Could go either way. Obviously all ours will be brilliant. Could both our two signings play on the left together?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2013 9:11:16 GMT
This is what happens when a distinctly average manager burns through 10's of millions on junk nobody wants year after year.
We have to tighten this purse strings because of him, while better managers who bought sensibly now have the option to splash a little more.
Hughes has a tough job ahead of him having to work with s bunch of workhorses.
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