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Post by massdriver on May 31, 2013 6:45:19 GMT
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Post by darksideofthemoon on May 31, 2013 7:01:52 GMT
AND.....as I've said before - from what I read somewhere - Hughes has a 36% win record when managing in the Premier League That'll do me  |
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Post by barney8 on May 31, 2013 8:42:49 GMT
I think you will find that almost every Man City fan agrees with the QPR fan: forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=284851&start=10This is just one example from the 17 pages thread: "How the fuck does this guy keep getting work? He must have incriminating photos of every single chairman." Another example: "For me the most damning thing for Hughes (and i wasn't a huge outer at the time) was a few weeks after Mancini came in, we looked far more of a team than we had at any point under Hughes. This was with Hughes's players, Mancini barely speaking English, and over the Christmas period with it's huge numbers of games." |
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Post by massdriver on May 31, 2013 9:54:27 GMT
I think you will find that almost every Man City fan agrees with the QPR fan: forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=284851&start=10This is just one example from the 17 pages thread: "How the fuck does this guy keep getting work? He must have incriminating photos of every single chairman." Another example: "For me the most damning thing for Hughes (and i wasn't a huge outer at the time) was a few weeks after Mancini came in, we looked far more of a team than we had at any point under Hughes. This was with Hughes's players, Mancini barely speaking English, and over the Christmas period with it's huge numbers of games." I think you'll find that very few supporters from other clubs agree that Hughes would turn out to be a good appointment. How the guy keeps finding employment in the top flight is beyond me to be honest. He must be very good at interviews or something. I feel that Stoke have passed up a great opportunity to actually change the footballing direction of the club by not appointing a young, progressive and cosmopolitan manager. There are so many of these types around in Europe waiting for the opportunity to make the jump to the PL. And all you could find was Mark Hughes. |
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Post by stokemark on May 31, 2013 10:15:19 GMT
I think you will find that almost every Man City fan agrees with the QPR fan: forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=284851&start=10This is just one example from the 17 pages thread: "How the fuck does this guy keep getting work? He must have incriminating photos of every single chairman." Another example: "For me the most damning thing for Hughes (and i wasn't a huge outer at the time) was a few weeks after Mancini came in, we looked far more of a team than we had at any point under Hughes. This was with Hughes's players, Mancini barely speaking English, and over the Christmas period with it's huge numbers of games." I think you'll find that very few supporters from other clubs agree that Hughes would turn out to be a good appointment. How the guy keeps finding employment in the top flight is beyond me to be honest. He must be very good at interviews or something. I feel that Stoke have passed up a great opportunity to actually change the footballing direction of the club by not appointing a young, progressive and cosmopolitan manager. There are so many of these types around in Europe waiting for the opportunity to make the jump to the PL. And all you could find was Mark Hughes. Fans like you piss me off. You say you are a Liverpool fan ? Then you havent got a clue about what supporting a 'normal' team is all about and I levvy that accusation at supporters of all of the 'Big 7/8' Premier League clubs. We have to work within certain confines, we dont have so called supporters poncing about in replica shirts from Twickenham to Timbuktu subscribing to LFCTV and the like. ANY managerial appointment for us will come with a much greater risk - It will be that the manager is deemed 'a has been' or 'failure' or alternatively 'untried' and 'inexperienced' We cant go around stealing better managers off other Premier League clubs because we are not living in a fantasy football world like you lot are. We will give the guy a fair crack of the whip. If he's a disaster then we will deal with it. Bear in mind that any successful Manager who, unless thet are in the mould of Tony Pulis, we get will end up fucking off to one of you glamour boys so success in the short term doesnt signify sustainable success. I am more than happy for QPR fans to come on this board and give us their view as they are like us - just an ordinary bunch of fans who care about their local club but you ? What sort of thrill is it giving you eh ? Why dont you fuck off back to RAWK and wank off over your dreams of one day re-establishing yourselves as European giants and Champions of all you purvey ? Theyll be dancing in the streets of Guildford when you get back to where you belong you know ! |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 14:34:17 GMT
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Post by hicc on May 31, 2013 16:03:34 GMT
I think you will find that almost every Man City fan agrees with the QPR fan: forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=284851&start=10This is just one example from the 17 pages thread: "How the fuck does this guy keep getting work? He must have incriminating photos of every single chairman." Another example: "For me the most damning thing for Hughes (and i wasn't a huge outer at the time) was a few weeks after Mancini came in, we looked far more of a team than we had at any point under Hughes. This was with Hughes's players, Mancini barely speaking English, and over the Christmas period with it's huge numbers of games." Yeah good thread thanks for the link, that's his last 3 clubs where the fans absolutely despise him. |
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Post by andrewqpr on May 31, 2013 23:24:12 GMT
One of our media fans wrote an article in the Guardian saying he thought Mark Hughes had "the personality of a black bag blowing in the wind."
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Post by kingstokie on May 31, 2013 23:31:10 GMT
One of our media fans wrote an article in the Guardian saying he thought Mark Hughes had "the personality of a black bag blowing in the wind." Bob Dylan once said "the answer my friend, is blowing in the wind" So if Peter Coates thinks he's the answer, and Bob Dylan does, I'm happy! |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 23:35:24 GMT
One of our media fans wrote an article in the Guardian saying he thought Mark Hughes had "the personality of a black bag blowing in the wind." Which is a pretty fair description of London in general. |
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Post by andrewqpr on May 31, 2013 23:40:52 GMT
Now I have that Bob Dylan song in my head. Cheers! One of our media fans wrote an article in the Guardian saying he thought Mark Hughes had "the personality of a black bag blowing in the wind." Which is a pretty fair description of London in general. Touche  I don't live in London anymore. I live in the USA. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on May 31, 2013 23:43:33 GMT
This seems to be a very one sided view without any balance at all. Nobody will deny that you had an absolute stinker to the start of the season. Hughes in charge of 14 games, getting you just 5 points. To an extent, yes, you were already relegated by the time Arry took over. BUT, let's have some perspective over the job that Arry himself did shall we? In his 24 games, despite having a full January transfer window and a few extra signings, you only got 20 points. Pro rata'd over a full season, that comes to 31/32 points, so you'd have still comfortably have been relegated. When Hughes left, you were 8 points from the team in 17th. By the end of the season, you were 14 points off. So its not exactly like you even made ANY ground what-so-ever in to your survival chances. You still only won 4 out of his 24 games. So yes, you may have already been relegated by the time Hughes left, but Old Twitcher did absolutely nothing at all to give you a chance, no turnaround, no boost and seems to have got off completely free from blame! Let's also look at the season before too - for which you give no credit at all to Hughes for, saying that it was us that kept you up. You say yourself that you should have kept the the 'great side' that got you up from the Championship. Well, Warnock got you to 17 points from 20 games. Pro-rata'd over a full season, this would have got 32/33 points and guess what...relegated. Hughes came in and got you 20 points from 18 games (42 over a full season). So looking at the actual facts and the points, games etc, I conclude: 1. Hughes did indeed keep you up in the first season; 2. Hughes did indeed have a shocker brainfart to the first 14 games last season; but 3. Twitcher did nothing to give you a chance of staying up either; Finally, pre-Hughes 2012 and post-Hughes 2013, you mustered together a whopping 37 points from 44 games (32 pro-rata'd to 1 season). Doesn't exactly support the view that Hughes is the devil and Warnock/Harry were fantastic. And to also say that you've got stability under Fernandes!!?? What the fook?? I'm guessing that was his latest twitter claim yes? I like other fans coming on and giving opinions and stuff, but you'd at least hope they'd be a balanced reflection It appears that our visiting QPR fans in their rush to condemn Hughes have developed a blind spot to the points made in the above post. Im sure we would be intrigued with their take on the points raised before they continue indulging in any more crocodile tears on our club's behalf. |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 23:50:05 GMT
Now I have that Bob Dylan song in my head. Cheers! Which is a pretty fair description of London in general. Touche I don't live in London anymore. I live in the USA.  I don't fucking blame yer....347,000 Brits did the same last yer... Enough said. People voting with their feet (or airline ticket) |
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Post by andrewqpr on Jun 1, 2013 0:05:54 GMT
My wife is American and its a good quality of life out here, I can't complain. This seems to be a very one sided view without any balance at all. Nobody will deny that you had an absolute stinker to the start of the season. Hughes in charge of 14 games, getting you just 5 points. To an extent, yes, you were already relegated by the time Arry took over. BUT, let's have some perspective over the job that Arry himself did shall we? In his 24 games, despite having a full January transfer window and a few extra signings, you only got 20 points. Pro rata'd over a full season, that comes to 31/32 points, so you'd have still comfortably have been relegated. When Hughes left, you were 8 points from the team in 17th. By the end of the season, you were 14 points off. So its not exactly like you even made ANY ground what-so-ever in to your survival chances. You still only won 4 out of his 24 games. So yes, you may have already been relegated by the time Hughes left, but Old Twitcher did absolutely nothing at all to give you a chance, no turnaround, no boost and seems to have got off completely free from blame! Let's also look at the season before too - for which you give no credit at all to Hughes for, saying that it was us that kept you up. You say yourself that you should have kept the the 'great side' that got you up from the Championship. Well, Warnock got you to 17 points from 20 games. Pro-rata'd over a full season, this would have got 32/33 points and guess what...relegated. Hughes came in and got you 20 points from 18 games (42 over a full season). So looking at the actual facts and the points, games etc, I conclude: 1. Hughes did indeed keep you up in the first season; 2. Hughes did indeed have a shocker brainfart to the first 14 games last season; but 3. Twitcher did nothing to give you a chance of staying up either; Finally, pre-Hughes 2012 and post-Hughes 2013, you mustered together a whopping 37 points from 44 games (32 pro-rata'd to 1 season). Doesn't exactly support the view that Hughes is the devil and Warnock/Harry were fantastic. And to also say that you've got stability under Fernandes!!?? What the fook?? I'm guessing that was his latest twitter claim yes? I like other fans coming on and giving opinions and stuff, but you'd at least hope they'd be a balanced reflection It appears that our visiting QPR fans in their rush to condemn Hughes have developed a blind spot to the points made in the above post. Im sure we would be intrigued with their take on the points raised before they continue indulging in any more crocodile tears on our club's behalf. You need to reacquaint yourself with the meaning of 'crocodile tears' as I am not sure what you mean. You're saying we're expressing insincere grief. Please elucidate. I have said good luck to Stoke and certainly no bitterness towards your club or fans why would I have. We're not hear posting this because we're bitter or jealous or anything, we're warning you of who you now have in charge of your great old club, as believe it or not I have a little soft spot for you. I appreciate this is for Stoke fans and I am not here to cause trouble and will soon leave when I am done. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jun 1, 2013 0:18:24 GMT
My wife is American and its a good quality of life out here, I can't complain. It appears that our visiting QPR fans in their rush to condemn Hughes have developed a blind spot to the points made in the above post. Im sure we would be intrigued with their take on the points raised before they continue indulging in any more crocodile tears on our club's behalf. You need to reacquaint yourself with the meaning of 'crocodile tears' as I am not sure what you mean. You're saying we're expressing insincere grief. Please elucidate. I have said good luck to Stoke and certainly no bitterness towards your club or fans why would I have. We're not hear posting this because we're bitter or jealous or anything, we're warning you of who you now have in charge of your great old club, as believe it or not I have a little soft spot for you. I appreciate this is for Stoke fans and I am not here to cause trouble and will soon leave when I am done. Andrew, I don't need to re-aquaint myself with anything. I mean what I say. In general the QPR supporters posting on here regarding Hughes will be on their knees praying that he makes a dog's dinner of his new job and will rush onto this message board reminding us all of how correct their warnings were should that happen. On the other hand should the appointment not condemn our club to the furnace of hell, we will not hear a peep from any of you and there will be an amount of disappointment being concealed around West London way. You know that to be true as well as I do. Now, about the points raised in the post I quoted? |
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Post by andrewqpr on Jun 1, 2013 0:51:41 GMT
My wife is American and its a good quality of life out here, I can't complain. You need to reacquaint yourself with the meaning of 'crocodile tears' as I am not sure what you mean. You're saying we're expressing insincere grief. Please elucidate. I have said good luck to Stoke and certainly no bitterness towards your club or fans why would I have. We're not hear posting this because we're bitter or jealous or anything, we're warning you of who you now have in charge of your great old club, as believe it or not I have a little soft spot for you. I appreciate this is for Stoke fans and I am not here to cause trouble and will soon leave when I am done. Andrew, I don't need to re-aquaint myself with anything. I mean what I say. In general the QPR supporters posting on here regarding Hughes will be on their knees praying that he makes a dog's dinner of his new job and will rush onto this message board reminding us all of how correct their warnings were should that happen. On the other hand should the appointment not condemn our club to the furnace of hell, we will not hear a peep from any of you and there will be an amount of disappointment being concealed around West London way. You know that to be true as well as I do. Now, about the points raised in the post I quoted? His management record is there for all to see without our warnings. And I don't need to come back here again and so I'll say it now, I told you so. There. As for the points quoted, yes there is stability at the club. Granted its in the early stages as Fernandes has been in the job a short time, we're developing and building but we have a supportive chairman and board that gave the manager money to spend on players and a small target of keeping us in the Premiership. Hughes often said how "excited" he was being at the club and the plans being laid out by the board to strengthen the club's future. There was no hint of any instability while Hughes was manager, unlike under Briatore and Ecclestone. Yes Hughes kept us up the previous season by the skin of our teeth. We rejoiced! And as a reward Hughes was given a ton of money to splash out on players of his choice. The result? Well we know: not a win in 14 games and bottom of the Premiership. We didn't land up at the bottom from bad referee decisions or bad luck. Our tactics and team ethic was poor to nonexistent. Some of them strolled around the pitch not even making an effort. Hughes wanted to stay and he had the support of the chairman, but the fans had had enough and that's why he went. If Stoke were bottom of the league without a win in 14 games you had to see the dross and put up with your club becoming a laughing stock, you're telling me you'd stick with the man who got you there? Hindsight is 20/20 vision as they say. Redknapp was available, he had got Spurs out of a similar predicament and so we took a risk getting him in. It didn't work but that's the risks and gambles you take in football. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2013 3:10:58 GMT
Hughes wanted to stay and he had the support of the chairman, but the fans had had enough and that's why he went. If Stoke were bottom of the league without a win in 14 games you had to see the dross and put up with your club becoming a laughing stock, you're telling me you'd stick with the man who got you there? Hindsight is 20/20 vision as they say. Redknapp was available, he had got Spurs out of a similar predicament and so we took a risk getting him in. It didn't work but that's the risks and gambles you take in football. We had a 14 game run between playing Southampton in December up to Man Utd in April, where we recorded just 1 win and 2 draws, giving us 5 points, the exact number of points picked up by QPR at the start of the season. During that run, we played the most dour football we've seen in 10 years. There was no pace, no creativity and it ultimately led to a huge number of fans completely turning against Pulis, but not in a 'lets hound him out' manner - sure there were pages of debates every single day but we kept 100% behind the team. After that defeat to Man Utd, we were level on points with Villa, 3 points above the drop zone, having sat comfortable in 8th in December. We were very worried as to where our next points were coming from and looking over our shoulder. It was all down to Pulis losing his control and many were hoping that we'd ourselves take a risk, get somebody in to shake things up to see us over the line. We then went to Loftus Road and won 2-0. Only our 2nd away win of the season and against a QPR side that were just awful. We also got another 5 points on top of that before the end of the season and stayed up. Yet we stayed up because we got enough points in the other 24 games. Yet absolutely none of the blame seems to be with Redknapp. I dont buy in to you playing better football under him either. Taarabt probably got to run around a bit more, but you still remained toothless in attack and chaotic in defence. Whether those 14 games came at the start of the season, the end, or in the middle is entirely irrelevant. 3 points in October count just the same as 3 points in April. If those 14 games defined your season, then why does the same not apply to anybody else? Why didn't West Brom finish in the final Champions League spot? Why didnt Arsenal finish 7th? Liverpool 12th? Southampton relegated and Wigan survive? Oh thats right...because they like QPR also had another 28 games to shape and define their season. So, please again look at the facts and figures before patronising us about what we'd do if we had a shit 14 game run. For what its worth, our 1-0 win against you at the Brit early on was quite a painful experience in which we ourselves were shite, outplayed by you and believe it or not, there were fans who came away from the game feeling like we'd actually lost! THAT was how shit we were even before our 14 game run. Where for the last 2 seasons, the 'football' on offer has been just truly awful, and at best many fans tolerated this on the basis that we were at least getting results. Blame Hughes if that's what makes you feel comfortable, but Harry is to blame just as much for your relegation and as posted previously, was simply not good enough to even give you a fighting chance. You can't just throw an unlimited amount of money at something without a bigger, more frugal plan and hope it works. For that, Fernandes also needs to accept his part to play in the continued sorry state of affairs that your club has become since you came in to money. Clubs Hughes has been at with a strong leadership have done very well under him, and thankfully our board have a stronger leadership and a sense of perspective. If I was a QPR fan, I'd be too busy looking at our already overloaded wage bill, the huge drop in revenue, and looking at Redknapp himself. He's always liked spending money, has always drove up the wage bill and again through careless ownership, he's left clubs in a crippled financial position. If you think for one moment that Redknapp and Fernandes will bring you 'stability' just because he might stay for more than 18 months then that's quite a worry. But, I'm not a QPR fan, and I don't have a soft spot for you, so I'm not concerned at all. It appears that as a club, fans and board alike, you've completely buried your head in the sand over last season and put 100% of the blame at one mans feet. |
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Post by andrewqpr on Jun 1, 2013 3:34:51 GMT
Hughes isn't the only to blame for our awful season. I never said he was. The board of directors, Phillip Beard, Tony Fernandes and Redknapp have all been heavily criticized by all QPR fans throughout the season. We're not dwelling on Hughes, we have moved on and of course we're concerned about the wage bill. There are some QPR fans who think he might do a good job at Stoke.
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Post by stokies on Jun 1, 2013 4:53:14 GMT
QPR fans may slate Hughes for his 12 game streak, but none of them mention he followed Warnock in and won 8 of 17 to keep you up.
So from the end of one season to 12 games into the next he changes from the messiah to the devil.
QPR is rotten through as a club, THAT's the reason you went down. Not Warnock, not Hughes and not 'arry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2013 7:23:57 GMT
This seems to be a very one sided view without any balance at all. Nobody will deny that you had an absolute stinker to the start of the season. Hughes in charge of 14 games, getting you just 5 points. To an extent, yes, you were already relegated by the time Arry took over. BUT, let's have some perspective over the job that Arry himself did shall we? In his 24 games, despite having a full January transfer window and a few extra signings, you only got 20 points. Pro rata'd over a full season, that comes to 31/32 points, so you'd have still comfortably have been relegated. When Hughes left, you were 8 points from the team in 17th. By the end of the season, you were 14 points off. So its not exactly like you even made ANY ground what-so-ever in to your survival chances. You still only won 4 out of his 24 games. So yes, you may have already been relegated by the time Hughes left, but Old Twitcher did absolutely nothing at all to give you a chance, no turnaround, no boost and seems to have got off completely free from blame! Let's also look at the season before too - for which you give no credit at all to Hughes for, saying that it was us that kept you up. You say yourself that you should have kept the the 'great side' that got you up from the Championship. Well, Warnock got you to 17 points from 20 games. Pro-rata'd over a full season, this would have got 32/33 points and guess what...relegated. Hughes came in and got you 20 points from 18 games (42 over a full season). So looking at the actual facts and the points, games etc, I conclude: 1. Hughes did indeed keep you up in the first season; 2. Hughes did indeed have a shocker brainfart to the first 14 games last season; but 3. Twitcher did nothing to give you a chance of staying up either; Finally, pre-Hughes 2012 and post-Hughes 2013, you mustered together a whopping 37 points from 44 games (32 pro-rata'd to 1 season). Doesn't exactly support the view that Hughes is the devil and Warnock/Harry were fantastic. And to also say that you've got stability under Fernandes!!?? What the fook?? I'm guessing that was his latest twitter claim yes? I like other fans coming on and giving opinions and stuff, but you'd at least hope they'd be a balanced reflection Great post. I would add to this that out of the 12 without a win 8 of those games were against top ten opposition. Sent from my Nexus 7 using proboards |
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Post by Linx on Jun 1, 2013 8:18:53 GMT
I have really enjoyed this debate. Well-written posts on both sides and, for once, visits from other clubs' fans not causing some of the more aggressive of our keyboard warriors to come out all keys blazing.
Nice to see that we're not all six-fingered knuckleheads like we are often portrayed by fans of the big four.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2013 9:46:41 GMT
Mark is a very convenient scapegoat for QPR and its fans. This!! Stoke City is a totally different club from qpr, we dont have a great pretender dishing out the money trying to buy success Its a solid experienced club Mark Hughes will have proper backing with decent players and more time to do it |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 1, 2013 10:32:43 GMT
My wife is American and its a good quality of life out here, I can't complain. It appears that our visiting QPR fans in their rush to condemn Hughes have developed a blind spot to the points made in the above post. Im sure we would be intrigued with their take on the points raised before they continue indulging in any more crocodile tears on our club's behalf. You need to reacquaint yourself with the meaning of 'crocodile tears' as I am not sure what you mean. You're saying we're expressing insincere grief. Please elucidate. I have said good luck to Stoke and certainly no bitterness towards your club or fans why would I have. We're not hear posting this because we're bitter or jealous or anything, we're warning you of who you now have in charge of your great old club, as believe it or not I have a little soft spot for you. I appreciate this is for Stoke fans and I am not here to cause trouble and will soon leave when I am done. Andrew don't delude yourself that you speak for anyone other than yourself. You seem a reasonably well adjusted bloke (despite being a QPR fan) but anyone who takes the time and trouble to sign up and post on another club's message board to 'warn' fans about a manager who was sacked by their club 6 months previously is either a bit sad or a wind up merchant. Which one are you? If you're sincere, what exactly do you think we can possibly do about your generous 'warning' anyway? And as for the other nobjockeys infesting this board at the moment from your club and the blue mancs (and probably the soapdodgers up the road in disguise)? No bitter and twisted motives there? I give you the comedian who paid his own money for an electronic advert in a petrol station in Stoke slagging off Hughes. Not bitter? Not sad? Do me a favour. Now with the greatest of respect why don't you all do one and leave us to it. Feel free to come back at Christmas and gloat if we haven't won a game, but I suspect you might have other things (like survival in the Championship) to worry about then. PS if you're going to try to sound intelligent by using big words like 'elucidate' to confuse us Northern Monkeys then make sure you spell 'here' correctly (hear) PPS I've no doubt set myself up for a full frontal assault by the spolling and granmar police |
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Post by lordb on Jun 1, 2013 11:00:26 GMT
QPR & Man City fans slate him
Blackburn fans rave about him
Fulham fans think he was ok but didnt like how he left
be daft for any Stokie not to be concerned
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jun 1, 2013 11:51:22 GMT
Whatever happens we just know that there'll be open warfare on here and up the Brit if we don't get a win, say, in the first 6 never mind 14........this is the main problem Hughes will face and why its imperative to get a good start to the campaign......he won't get the extended honeymoon that a more popular, unifying choice would have got.......we shall see....
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Post by bmstoke on Jun 1, 2013 12:23:09 GMT
My wife is American and its a good quality of life out here, I can't complain. You need to reacquaint yourself with the meaning of 'crocodile tears' as I am not sure what you mean. You're saying we're expressing insincere grief. Please elucidate. I have said good luck to Stoke and certainly no bitterness towards your club or fans why would I have. We're not hear posting this because we're bitter or jealous or anything, we're warning you of who you now have in charge of your great old club, as believe it or not I have a little soft spot for you. I appreciate this is for Stoke fans and I am not here to cause trouble and will soon leave when I am done. Andrew don't delude yourself that you speak for anyone other than yourself. You seem a reasonably well adjusted bloke (despite being a QPR fan) but anyone who takes the time and trouble to sign up and post on another club's message board to 'warn' fans about a manager who was sacked by their club 6 months previously is either a bit sad or a wind up merchant. Which one are you? If you're sincere, what exactly do you think we can possibly do about your generous 'warning' anyway? And as for the other nobjockeys infesting this board at the moment from your club and the blue mancs (and probably the soapdodgers up the road in disguise)? No bitter and twisted motives there? I give you the comedian who paid his own money for an electronic advert in a petrol station in Stoke slagging off Hughes. Not bitter? Not sad? Do me a favour. Now with the greatest of respect why don't you all do one and leave us to it. Feel free to come back at Christmas and gloat if we haven't won a game, but I suspect you might have other things (like survival in the Championship) to worry about then. PS if you're going to try to sound intelligent by using big words like 'elucidate' to confuse us Northern Monkeys then make sure you spell 'here' correctly (hear) PPS I've no doubt set myself up for a full frontal assault by the spolling and granmar police Will the granmar police arrest your nan.  |
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Post by rfromafar on Jun 5, 2013 14:58:00 GMT
QPR fan, I come in peace. Look, Hughes is not stupid and will learn from his Rangers experience and you will benefit from that, hopefully. He is ambitious and he cannot afford to fail twice in succession.
The main lesson he needs to learn is that you can’t just buy a load of players and leave them to get on with it, hoping that they will figure out the formations and the tactics for themselves. That simply won’t work. You have to organise them and drill them, especially when it comes to the defensive side of things, and set pieces too. News leaked out during Hughes’ tenure at the Rs that the coaching staff were not working on our defending. Weird, but surely, Hughes and his crew will learn from that.
Remember that Hughes alienated many Rangers fans before he even arrived, through arrogantly “interviewing” QPR, as well as through questioning our ambition. With that, the bad karma began to accumulate. It reached danger levels when we stayed up by our fingernails in 2011/12 and Hughes rashly promised that we would never again be in a relegation dogfight while he was at the club. The bell end… He was true to his word, I’ll give him that, Rangers under Hughes had no fight whatsoever this season! We were never close enough to safety to get into the dogfight – thanks Mark!
I will get pelters for this I expect but in my view, football fans are all the same, we all share the same addiction, in other words, our undying love for our respective clubs. I admire the passion of your fans, you roar your team on, and it is impressive how you have managed to establish yourselves as a Premier League club; sadly, I know to my cost how hard that is to achieve. I would also far rather clubs like yours challenged for honours than the usual suspects, those clubs whom the media constantly fawn over, the sad sychophants that they are. Variety keeps things interesting. Why should there be a closed shop, where only ManUre, Chelsea and Citeh can win stuff?
So have a good season, make sure you beat Chelsea home and away, ideally via a couple of JT own goals, and we’ll look forward to meeting you in the league in the 2014/15 season – in the Prem (oh please let it be so)!
You Rs!
R from Afar
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jun 5, 2013 21:22:55 GMT
"This will never happen again under my management".
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Post by jonnybravo on Jun 6, 2013 8:20:46 GMT
The problem with QPR is the chairman! redknapp came out and said yesterday if he interferes with the team he'll walk away! That's the reason QPR went down how is a manager supposed to run a team when the chairman is sticking his nose in buying players the manager doesn't want but he and the fans do,no manager will succeed with Fernandez in charge but its warnocks and Hughes fault he daren't blame redknapp because the fans wanted him
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 6, 2013 10:13:26 GMT
QPR & Man City fans slate him Blackburn fans rave about him Fulham fans think he was ok but didnt like how he left be daft for any Stokie not to be concerned Absolutely I can't see Hughes 'fitting in' with Stoke but we're stuck with him now He's obviously been given a chance to 'prove himself' which is a massive gamble by our Board given his record The Jury is most definitely out..case adjourned til November |
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Liverpool fan and former RAWKite here. 
