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Post by heisenberg on May 29, 2013 10:14:10 GMT
I personally don't think anyone bar Hill and Tarabbt had a decent attitude in the whole of Coo P R squad! When someone like Tarabbt has a better attitude than you THAT'S when you know you in trouble! Would love him a stoke though, frustrating exciting player who would get people out of ere seats!
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Post by stokeramblers on May 29, 2013 10:15:38 GMT
The Bosingwa that QPR fans were ready to lynch? Yeah like I say..Bosingwa was the first name that came to mind! To be fair...whatever you think of his time at QPR...hes on a different level to any right back we've had under Pulis. True. He can't defend can he
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Post by stokeramblers on May 29, 2013 10:16:35 GMT
What happened to Alejandro Faurlin? He looked really good at QPR at one stage. Think it was Arry that binned him off. He's in Italy I think now
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Post by thompson8288 on May 29, 2013 10:18:42 GMT
I wouldn't go that far! First of all I said Granero type but I wouldn't be adverse to Granero and I don't think him and Adam would be in the same side! 4-2-3-1 with Granero or a player of his ilk as one of the 3. Lets have a proper #10. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Come Bayern...its time for revolution! ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) I'm thinking along the lines of... Butland (Begos gone surely) Bosingwa Huth Shawcross New Left back Pennant Granero Nzonzi Adam Hoilett Jerome That would be fucking orgasmic on a number of levels. I would like to see butland get more experience before throwing him in, if bego goes im happy with tommy for a season Bosingwa - please god no! hasnt got the stomach for it, seemed like a bad apple at qpr Huth - love the guy but for me the 2nd half season he has not looked as good, would like a better replacement (tin helmet on!) Pennant - hope he pulls his finger out and works hard as we may have a couple more years from him but im afraid he may have lost it Granero - HUGE wages surely? definitely a no go Jerome - even pulis didnt trust him to lead the line for a season, we can surely do better than that!!
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Post by KyleLightbulb on May 29, 2013 10:19:43 GMT
Is that the same Roque Santa Cruz who played for Malaga in the Champions League last year? Yeah, clearly well below our standard....
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Post by skeelsy on May 29, 2013 10:21:57 GMT
David Bentley. Star man for Hughes at Blackburn and Spurs are desperate to unload. Great crosser of the ball and was capped 7 times for England before he lost his way at Tottenham. Nailed on for an early Hughes signing.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 29, 2013 10:33:38 GMT
Caceido's ok...many City fans generally felt he was a bit of a donkey though. Did brilliantly in Spain. Pace, power, a Jerome upgrade. Thing is though Rob, I still think Jerome is pretty decent. There is no coincidence imo that we more often than not looked a better attacking unit WITH Jerome in the side. Granted hes not the finished article and probably never will be but hes still only 26, has enough pace to trouble any defender, has a nack of scoring great goals and helps us push further up the pitch as a team (as a consequence of his pace). I'd be looking to replace Walters, Crouch and Jones before replacing Jerome tbf. Hes the least of our problems right now.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 10:35:38 GMT
Did brilliantly in Spain. Pace, power, a Jerome upgrade. Thing is though Rob, I still think Jerome is pretty decent. There is no coincidence imo that we more often than not looked a better attacking unit WITH Jerome in the side. Granted hes not the finished article and probably never will be but hes still only 26, has enough pace to trouble any defender, has a nack of scoring great goals and helps us push further up the pitch as a team (as a consequence of his pace). I'd be looking to replace Walters, Crouch and Jones before replacing Jerome tbf. Hes the least of our problems right now. I like Jerome. I'd keep him. My point was that for a 'donkey' Caceido has a lot of the same attributes and is technically, IMO, a better player as well.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 29, 2013 10:39:52 GMT
Thing is though Rob, I still think Jerome is pretty decent. There is no coincidence imo that we more often than not looked a better attacking unit WITH Jerome in the side. Granted hes not the finished article and probably never will be but hes still only 26, has enough pace to trouble any defender, has a nack of scoring great goals and helps us push further up the pitch as a team (as a consequence of his pace). I'd be looking to replace Walters, Crouch and Jones before replacing Jerome tbf. Hes the least of our problems right now. I like Jerome. I'd keep him. My point was that for a 'donkey' Caceido has a lot of the same attributes and is technically, IMO, a better player as well. Hes not as quick but yeah I suppose they would be comparable. Nothing in it really mind and Jerome's pace would give it the edge for me. I think the biggest changes need to come in the midfield (and wide areas). At least that's where I would expect the changes to come. Full backs too. Incoming strikers should be last on the agenda imo.
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Post by george2again on May 29, 2013 10:58:18 GMT
Mica Richards at right back end of. Might thaw to Hughes a tad if he could get him , hopefully it would see the end of of Shotton for ever. Which ever way any manager looks at it we need two full backs and two wide players and lots of pace in the side, Weiss is a good call as well.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on May 29, 2013 11:00:13 GMT
I'd rather have Mama than a single one of the daft overpaid fuckers.
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Post by philb on May 29, 2013 11:01:06 GMT
Yeah like I say..Bosingwa was the first name that came to mind! To be fair...whatever you think of his time at QPR...hes on a different level to any right back we've had under Pulis. True. He can't defend can he He'd piss himself laughing if we got relegated next season!
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:03:37 GMT
I like Jerome. I'd keep him. My point was that for a 'donkey' Caceido has a lot of the same attributes and is technically, IMO, a better player as well. Hes not as quick but yeah I suppose they would be comparable. Nothing in it really mind and Jerome's pace would give it the edge for me. I think the biggest changes need to come in the midfield (and wide areas). At least that's where I would expect the changes to come. Full backs too. Incoming strikers should be last on the agenda imo. Caceido is pretty rapid too. Full backs are nailed on and one of the things I'm looking forward to most!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 29, 2013 11:04:59 GMT
Hes not as quick but yeah I suppose they would be comparable. Nothing in it really mind and Jerome's pace would give it the edge for me. I think the biggest changes need to come in the midfield (and wide areas). At least that's where I would expect the changes to come. Full backs too. Incoming strikers should be last on the agenda imo. Caceido is pretty rapid too. Full backs are nailed on and one of the things I'm looking forward to most! Indeed.
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Post by thebet365 on May 29, 2013 11:14:02 GMT
Is that the same Roque Santa Cruz who played for Malaga in the Champions League last year? Yeah, clearly well below our standard.... That's a piss poor article. Common knowledge Jo was a signing set up before Sparky was appointed. Andy Johnson is not a championship striker at best just a shit injury record over the last few years. And Robinho was the boards iconic signing because nobody else would come. There's a few shockers there but the big money signing on there weren't his apart from Cruz, but considering how well he did for Sparky at Blackburn I can understand the reasoning. All of man city's signings are overpriced because the whole world knows they've got unlimited funds, and they wanted people signed yesterday.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 29, 2013 11:15:24 GMT
Yeah like I say..Bosingwa was the first name that came to mind! To be fair...whatever you think of his time at QPR...hes on a different level to any right back we've had under Pulis. True. He can't defend can he Ramblers you are joking right? Are you seriously suggesting Wilko is a better right back than Jose Bosingwa? This is a bloke with 24 caps for the Portugal national side having played at world cups, European Championships and having won champions league's. Think about what you are saying.
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Post by johnterrysyourdad on May 29, 2013 11:15:59 GMT
I liked Elano when he was at man city,cant remember if hughes signed him though or if it was sven
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Post by stokeramblers on May 29, 2013 11:16:30 GMT
I liked Elano when he was at man city,cant remember if hughes signed him though or if it was sven Sven signed him. Hughes fell out with him
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Post by stokeramblers on May 29, 2013 11:18:16 GMT
True. He can't defend can he Ramblers you are joking right? Are you seriously suggesting Wilko is a better right back than Jose Bosingwa? This is a bloke with 24 caps for the Portugal national side having played at world cups, European Championships and having won champions league's. Think about what you are saying. Living in the past again Rossi! He was those things... This season he has been hapless, error prone and lazy. I wouldn't have wanted him here this season with his awful attitude.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 29, 2013 11:21:45 GMT
About 8 of our players are set to leave, we can accommodate replacements whilst testing our remaining squad. Cannot be done in one go. Bring in 2 full backs, 2 wingers, 1 midfield and 1 or 2 strikers and utilise the squad.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 29, 2013 11:24:08 GMT
Ramblers you are joking right? Are you seriously suggesting Wilko is a better right back than Jose Bosingwa? This is a bloke with 24 caps for the Portugal national side having played at world cups, European Championships and having won champions league's. Think about what you are saying. Living in the past again Rossi! He was those things... This season he has been hapless, error prone and lazy. I wouldn't have wanted him here this season with his awful attitude. Hes 30 Ramblers..Christ. I'll ask you again...do you seriously think either Wilko, Shotton or Cameron are better right back's than Jose Bosingwa? Surely by your theory Hughes is therefore a disaster because he likewise had 1 bad season at QPR? It was pretty clear that Bosingwa's issue was attitude and not quality. Can he change that? Probably not. I'd personally rather see a younger up and coming full back with a better attitude for sure, but lets not pretend Bosingwa is a shit player. Hes a top class international right back at the end of the day and to suggest otherwise goes against the facts mate.
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Post by prettything on May 29, 2013 11:25:23 GMT
Kompany, Tevez and Barry, please.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 29, 2013 11:27:33 GMT
Caceido is pretty rapid too. Full backs are nailed on and one of the things I'm looking forward to most! Indeed. This is great! We are actually talking about full backs, new signings from Sparky's old clubs, wondering what system he will play etc. Last season the only topic of conversation was TP and his inflexible ways. It HAS to be an improvement, surely?
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Post by j3st3r on May 29, 2013 11:29:05 GMT
I still think SWP might be worth a punt... I know he's always been all pace and no final product (and even the pace is probably on the way out) but has shown the occasional moment of potential... And we do need some width....
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 29, 2013 11:29:57 GMT
This is great! We are actually talking about full backs, new signings from Sparky's old clubs, wondering what system he will play etc. Last season the only topic of conversation was TP and his inflexible ways. It HAS to be an improvement, surely? Exactly tricky. One of things I hated with TP's methods were that us as fans always had to compromise. We hopefully have a manager in Hughes who will play players in their correct positions while showing a more ambitious approach.
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Post by stokeramblers on May 29, 2013 11:31:48 GMT
Living in the past again Rossi! He was those things... This season he has been hapless, error prone and lazy. I wouldn't have wanted him here this season with his awful attitude. Hes 30 Ramblers..Christ. I'll ask you again...do you seriously think either Wilko, Shotton or Cameron are better right back's than Jose Bosingwa? Surely by your theory Hughes is therefore a disaster because he likewise had 1 bad season at QPR? It was pretty clear that Bosingwa's issue was attitude and not quality. Can he change that? Probably not. I'd personally rather see a younger up and coming full back with a better attitude for sure, but lets not pretend Bosingwa is a shit player. Hes a top class international right back at the end of the day and to suggest otherwise goes against the facts mate. Iis a top class international right back now? Is he regularly selected for his country? He was awful defensively for QPR and his performances weren't at all inline with what you'd expect of such a 'mega-star' We weren't jizzing all over Jonathan Woodgate when he was here because we saw him for what he is an ageing star on the wane. Not the promising young centre back that signed for Real Madrid. Players deteriorate, it's a fact of life.
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Post by 606Stokie on May 29, 2013 11:33:03 GMT
Mbia still think he is class and would be perfect for us and an upgrade on Nzonzi if he goes!
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Post by 606Stokie on May 29, 2013 11:34:53 GMT
Mbia still think he is class and would be perfect for us and an upgrade on Nzonzi if he goes!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 29, 2013 11:36:44 GMT
Hes 30 Ramblers..Christ. I'll ask you again...do you seriously think either Wilko, Shotton or Cameron are better right back's than Jose Bosingwa? Surely by your theory Hughes is therefore a disaster because he likewise had 1 bad season at QPR? It was pretty clear that Bosingwa's issue was attitude and not quality. Can he change that? Probably not. I'd personally rather see a younger up and coming full back with a better attitude for sure, but lets not pretend Bosingwa is a shit player. Hes a top class international right back at the end of the day and to suggest otherwise goes against the facts mate. Iis a top class international right back now? Is he regularly selected for his country? He was awful defensively for QPR and his performances weren't at all inline with what you'd expect of such a 'mega-star' We weren't jizzing all over Jonathan Woodgate when he was here because we saw him for what he is an ageing star on the wane. Not the promising young centre back that signed for Real Madrid. Players deteriorate, it's a fact of life. Its a totally different situation with Bosingwa though? You are aware 12 months ago he started in the champions league final? And won the champions league final? Come on Ramblers you know as well as I do that the situation is totally different to say a Woodgate. Bosingwa spent most last season sitting in the stands in a mood. It had absolutely fuck all to do with him being "awful defensively" and being "past it". He was there for the money...think that's pretty clear. Is he a regular? Be surprised if he starts at the next world cup but will almost certainly be in the squad. But I suppose Cameron, Wilko and Shotton would make the Portugal squad right? I suppose they were also capable of playing in the champions league final this time last year? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by Jimm on May 29, 2013 11:37:17 GMT
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