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Post by vahl on May 24, 2013 11:53:35 GMT
He also spent £25m on Adebayor. £32m for Robinho. £19m for Jo.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 12:00:19 GMT
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Post by stokedaft on May 24, 2013 12:09:03 GMT
I do not claim to be ITK BUT MY SOURCES VERY CLOSE TO THE CLUB say no decision will be made until the club have made an approach to Rafa Benitez AFTER THE 1ST OF JUNE WHEN HIS CONTRACT ENDS at Chelsea
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Post by redwhite on May 24, 2013 12:15:02 GMT
I do not claim to be ITK BUT MY SOURCES VERY CLOSE TO THE CLUB say no decision will be made until the club have made an approach to Rafa Benitez AFTER THE 1ST OF JUNE WHEN HIS CONTRACT ENDS at Chelsea Oh right. Who are your sources then?
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Post by georgeberrysafro on May 24, 2013 12:16:17 GMT
He also spent £25m on Adebayor. £32m for Robinho. £19m for Jo. Yeah but were they his signings? Robinho was signed by the board (on deadline day in an interview he said he was looking forward to playing for Chelsea!) and he was made to play him when he was fit. I bet Adebayor and Jo weren't his dealings either - especially not Jo. Yes, maybe they asked him and he said okay but I don't think you can 100% trust the signings he made at Man City or QPR as his signings. The ones he made at Blackburn and Fulham are hell of a lot better, and even the cheap ones he made for Man City. I warming (slightly) to the idea of the ex-shite tosser I think we've got to as it's looking more and more likely at the moment. Feck.
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Post by lordb on May 24, 2013 12:17:06 GMT
hopefully Stoke will be approaching (or have already) several candidates & will choose....not Mark Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 12:18:56 GMT
I do not claim to be ITK BUT MY SOURCES VERY CLOSE TO THE CLUB say no decision will be made until the club have made an approach to Rafa Benitez AFTER THE 1ST OF JUNE WHEN HIS CONTRACT ENDS at Chelsea Well for a start we wouldnt need to wait as he's off regardless. So I'm calling bull. Good effort though. Lose the caps it only adds to not believing you.
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Post by georgeberrysafro on May 24, 2013 12:19:28 GMT
I do not claim to be ITK BUT MY SOURCES VERY CLOSE TO THE CLUB say no decision will be made until the club have made an approach to Rafa Benitez AFTER THE 1ST OF JUNE WHEN HIS CONTRACT ENDS at Chelsea Why do we need to wait? Chelsea don't want him, always said he would be replaced and the fans treated him like crap. So we should be at least sounding him out NOW even if we have to wait until June 1st to officially announce we're in contact! I bet other sides in Spain/Italy interested in him have contacted him already. Tell him he forgot something at the training ground while he was last here and he needs to come and pick it up!
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 12:19:54 GMT
Not at all, odds mean little.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 12:21:09 GMT
Not at all, odds mean little. ...as does your inside information...
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Post by snapper23 on May 24, 2013 12:21:18 GMT
I guess cos we do no want to breach the tapping up rules and the wider law re procuring breach of contract
Sent from my GT-I9300 using proboards
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Post by Ellan Vannin on May 24, 2013 12:23:31 GMT
So he's secured 4 Top 10 PL finishes (3 with Blackburn and 1 with Fulham) The most points we've ever finished on is 47. He managed 52, 58 and 63 at Blackburn. He took Wales to the brink of qualification to the Euros (lost in a play-off against Russia). The closest Wales have come for decades. He signed the likes of Samba (400k), Nelsen (free), Bentley (500k), Santa Cruz (£3.5m), Dembele, Kompany and Zabaleta. Is this all correct? (I'm looking at you FM) Yes that is right. I don't like Hughes as a person and not saying he'd be first on my list, but his record QPR apart isn't too shabby
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Post by jakewhu on May 24, 2013 12:25:17 GMT
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Post by potterpaul on May 24, 2013 12:28:01 GMT
I'm happy with Hughes but I'm not convinced he's our man.
1) before TP left a decision on his replacement was already made and agreements made. If this was Hughes why the delay. 2) so much as been made of the new structure within the club. I'm not sure he's the man that can fulfil the role of leading through the transition period.
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Post by georgeberrysafro on May 24, 2013 12:35:11 GMT
I'm happy with Hughes but I'm not convinced he's our man. 1) before TP left a decision on his replacement was already made and agreements made. If this was Hughes why the delay. 2) so much as been made of the new structure within the club. I'm not sure he's the man that can fulfil the role of leading through the transition period. This is my issue with the Hughes news. I've not seen anything previously (like you see with other managers) that he's big on developing youth or blooding young players assumed to be part of this 'new direction' we going for. Hughes did well buying cheap from the foreign markets at times but I don't remember him developing younger players. Unless he's not going to be part of that - but now and again he'll be 'recommended' a youth player to blood in the first team? I suppose it depends on his back room team, who we'd want in place and who he's like in place.
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Post by Onneravineet on May 24, 2013 12:35:36 GMT
Brand new story on BBC website confirming Hughes contact...someone link please
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 12:38:15 GMT
How much youth has Hughes ever played? How much youth has he brought through?
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Post by cartman123 on May 24, 2013 12:38:22 GMT
My banner will be brought out for the first game if this is fucking true.
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Post by thestatusquo on May 24, 2013 12:41:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2013 12:42:35 GMT
My banner will be brought out for the first game if this is fucking true. All bark, no bite.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 24, 2013 12:43:48 GMT
He's out of work and needs a job. I'm guessing he'll two the line if he wants to earn some money. I don't see Everton in for him and he's an ex-player.
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Post by cartman123 on May 24, 2013 12:43:55 GMT
My banner will be brought out for the first game if this is fucking true. All bark, no bite. Well we'll see won't we.
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Post by Onneravineet on May 24, 2013 12:44:35 GMT
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Post by stokeramblers on May 24, 2013 12:44:39 GMT
What will your banner say?
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Post by Ellan Vannin on May 24, 2013 12:45:31 GMT
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Post by Squeekster on May 24, 2013 12:48:07 GMT
I do not claim to be ITK BUT MY SOURCES VERY CLOSE TO THE CLUB say no decision will be made until the club have made an approach to Rafa Benitez AFTER THE 1ST OF JUNE WHEN HIS CONTRACT ENDS at Chelsea Why do we need to wait? Chelsea don't want him, always said he would be replaced and the fans treated him like crap. So we should be at least sounding him out NOW even if we have to wait until June 1st to officially announce we're in contact! I bet other sides in Spain/Italy interested in him have contacted him already. Tell him he forgot something at the training ground while he was last here and he needs to come and pick it up! Hopefully its down to the fact that he doesn't get back to England till Sunday then he can sign and be unveiled on Monday!
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Post by stokemachine on May 24, 2013 12:50:55 GMT
The conspiracy theroist in me says that all this exposure on Hughes from media/bookies (instigated by wily old Peter) is just a ploy to get people betting on the wrong market, whipping up a frenzy throwing people off the scent of the right man. My thoughts are...
1st choice is Benitez - he will be offered the job when back from State side. But I don't think he will come.
We will end up appointing RDM. Just got a sneaky feeling. That's all. Get a good backroom staff in with him (Holland, Wilkins etc)and I think we can look forward to SCFC going in the right direction.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 24, 2013 12:51:07 GMT
I would be well chuffed with Mark Hughes to be honest and would have him at no.2 in my pecking order for replacements to Pulis. He has taken unfashionable clubs into the top half of the Premier League, did a great job with Wales, solid job with Fulham and an excellent job at Blackburn where they won a cup and finished as high as 6th. He has an eye for a player (Bentley, Samba, Santa Cruz, Hart, Kompany, Dembele to name a few) and aside from QPR he has done a good job everywhere he's been. Even at Man City, he was sacked having lost only 1 game up to Christmas despite having Robinho and allegedly others, foisted upon him. Even at QPR, where he failed, did he really spend that much? They spent fortunes on wages on a lot of free transfers but aside from Zamora and the money on Park Ji Sung from Manure, did he really spend that much? Redknapp spent more on two players in January than Hughes spent yet did a worse job. If we get Mark Hughes I will be happy but would ask only one thing of him....I would ask that he remembered how he played the game himself and then set about managing in the same mould that he was as a player. Do that, and we could be a match made in heaven. The only problem with Mark Hughes is that he has appeared to be a whinging twat in our encounters with him but if he ditched that, as I say above, he could be perfect. Produce a team in the mould of himself as a player. Hard, aggressive, give and take, abrasive and above all, a winner. Mark Hughes would do for me if we can't secure the dream appointment of Rafa Benitez who has definitely been sounded out about the job. I can't abide Hughes as a person (see comments on other thread), but he has the best pedigree of all of the speculative links to date. Still, I doubt that any journalist really has an insight into the decision making process at the top and we're just getting linked to all the standard names with no evidence to back it up. I'm paying no attention until the Sentinel's spy camera spots candidates heading in for an interview.
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Post by metalhead on May 24, 2013 12:52:03 GMT
I said about this days ago... why is everyone bloody surprised?-
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Post by davejohnno1 on May 24, 2013 12:57:29 GMT
In terms of youth, maybe he didn't have youngsters to play. Afterall, isn't that a defence used for TP?
He did sign David Bentley who was a youngster at the time and he did sign and play Joe Hart before opting for experience in the form of Given, who in fairness, was a very good goalkeeper at that time.
I don't know an awful lot else but he did blood younger players as Wales manager as well so I think with him, it would very much be a case of "if you're good enough, you're old enough". Equally, at the opposite end of the spectrum, I think he would also be of the opinion that "if you're good enough, you're young enough".
Based purely on his record as a football manager, I don't see an awful lot to get upset about were Mark Hughes to become our manager. Aside from QPR, he's done a good job everywhere he's been and his players seem to have enjoyed playing for him. Robbie Savage, for example, speaks very highly of Mark Hughes, as does Craig Bellamy and notorious manager hater, Carlos Tevez.
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