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Post by cobhamstokey on May 22, 2013 19:40:10 GMT
Firstly i heard of this four week ago and signed up so i could post, Mark Hughes is the next stoke manager, he is currently staying at Nunsmere Hall, this isn't someone bullshitting, I myself know a relation of mark's and was told about this firstly a few weeks ago, after i think stoke played Norwich, the deal was offered but was only signed off last week, and mark has been waiting for the nod, last night he received the call and today he traveled and is currently staying in Cheshire ready to meet the owners tomorrow and be unveiled. I'm not lying or playing games, i know a member of the Hughes family extremely well and this is now 100% confirmed in the family, you wont have long to wait to see, mark hughes will be publicly announced tomorrow in a press conference Taking his time isn't he
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Post by ricardocomeback on May 22, 2013 19:42:59 GMT
Simple I just think Hughes is a loser, bad track record and would get us relegated in the first season. Why do you think the majority think he would be a catastrophe?
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 22, 2013 19:45:00 GMT
Blackburn is his only success, crest of a wave. Media onside and all important momentum. He inherited a Hodgson team at Fulham, Woy's teams run themselves. Look at the ease in which Clarke has kept WBA ticking. I think that's terribly harsh on him to suggest that. He did really well at Blackburn, a superb job with Wales, did well at Man City (all things considered) and to dismiss what he achieved at Fulham as being down to Hodgson is very tough on him indeed. I think is record is pretty good, actually. For a manager to come straight in and successfully manage a national team at the age of 36 speaks volumes to me. QPR is the only blot on his copybook You'd do well to find a manager to come to Stoke with a blemish free CV. what did he actually do at Wales? Don't remember any success? Ask Man City fans what they thought of him. QPR was in such a mess even Harry couldn't save them. The players he brought in there were shocking.
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Post by jbstokie on May 22, 2013 19:48:11 GMT
Simple I just think Hughes is a loser, bad track record and would get us relegated in the first season.Why do you think the majority think he would be a catastrophe? Hughes is a winner like everyone that has come from Ferguson's United is, very good managerial record apart from one season at QPR which is a mad house, he's never been relegated. Any facts to back up "The majority think he would be a catastrophe".
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Post by jbstokie on May 22, 2013 19:48:55 GMT
I think that's terribly harsh on him to suggest that. He did really well at Blackburn, a superb job with Wales, did well at Man City (all things considered) and to dismiss what he achieved at Fulham as being down to Hodgson is very tough on him indeed. I think is record is pretty good, actually. For a manager to come straight in and successfully manage a national team at the age of 36 speaks volumes to me. QPR is the only blot on his copybook You'd do well to find a manager to come to Stoke with a blemish free CV. what did he actually do at Wales? Don't remember any success? Ask Man City fans what they thought of him. QPR was in such a mess even Harry couldn't save them. The players he brought in there were shocking. Hughes got more points per game than Redknapp and Harry spent a load in January.
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Post by scfc75 on May 22, 2013 19:50:59 GMT
Firstly i heard of this four week ago and signed up so i could post, Mark Hughes is the next stoke manager, he is currently staying at Nunsmere Hall, this isn't someone bullshitting, I myself know a relation of mark's and was told about this firstly a few weeks ago, after i think stoke played Norwich, the deal was offered but was only signed off last week, and mark has been waiting for the nod, last night he received the call and today he traveled and is currently staying in Cheshire ready to meet the owners tomorrow and be unveiled. I'm not lying or playing games, i know a member of the Hughes family extremely well and this is now 100% confirmed in the family, you wont have long to wait to see, mark hughes will be publicly announced tomorrow in a press conference Taking his time isn't he 3 hours left, give him chance!
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 22, 2013 19:58:29 GMT
what did he actually do at Wales? Don't remember any success? Ask Man City fans what they thought of him. QPR was in such a mess even Harry couldn't save them. The players he brought in there were shocking. Hughes got more points per game than Redknapp and Harry spent a load in January. You could be right but I thought Hughes at the beginning of the season went 16 games without a win then got sacked. I can't believe your saying Hughes would be good for us. The fact is the shortlist is full of crap apart from Rafa (wont come) and Roberto M and it's seems any shit would be considered on here as acceptable!!
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Post by swampySCFC on May 22, 2013 20:01:04 GMT
Rather worryingly he seems to be favourite with most bookies at the moment
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 20:05:57 GMT
I think that's terribly harsh on him to suggest that. He did really well at Blackburn, a superb job with Wales, did well at Man City (all things considered) and to dismiss what he achieved at Fulham as being down to Hodgson is very tough on him indeed. I think is record is pretty good, actually. For a manager to come straight in and successfully manage a national team at the age of 36 speaks volumes to me. QPR is the only blot on his copybook You'd do well to find a manager to come to Stoke with a blemish free CV. what did he actually do at Wales? Don't remember any success? Ask Man City fans what they thought of him. QPR was in such a mess even Harry couldn't save them. The players he brought in there were shocking. Wales came within a game of qualifying for the Euros and he was heralded as turning Welsh football around. At Man City I think he did a steady job, he got there just as the money came in but the owners wanted success and flair faster than he could give it to them. Are we really saying that because he wasn't good enough for a team challenging for the title he isn't good enough for Stoke? Good luck finding a suitable candidate then.
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 22, 2013 20:06:32 GMT
Please can we stop perpetuating this Hughes thread FFS.......
....oh bugger i just did........arghhhhhhhhh nooooooooo
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Post by pieman72 on May 22, 2013 20:07:21 GMT
If we appoint Hughes we are a cert for relegation. He is clueless even with money to spend Man City and QPR
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 20:08:31 GMT
Simple I just think Hughes is a loser, bad track record and would get us relegated in the first season. Why do you think the majority think he would be a catastrophe? Bad track record? I can take or leave his possible appointment but he hasn't got a bad track record unless you think top ten finishes with Blackburn and Fulham are poor? If Hughes is being ruled out because of his track record we better get on the blower to someone at a top club as none of the other candidates must be worth a wank either.
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 22, 2013 20:24:26 GMT
Simple I just think Hughes is a loser, bad track record and would get us relegated in the first season. Why do you think the majority think he would be a catastrophe? Bad track record? I can take or leave his possible appointment but he hasn't got a bad track record unless you think top ten finishes with Blackburn and Fulham are poor? If Hughes is being ruled out because of his track record we better get on the blower to someone at a top club as none of the other candidates must be worth a wank either. Of course he's being ruled out because of his track record esp recent track record. Turning welsh football around don't talk bollocks they say that about every manager of Wales. Why swap a £1 for a £1. I'm sure if Ken Dodd was in the running you give him a shout.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 20:28:47 GMT
Bad track record? I can take or leave his possible appointment but he hasn't got a bad track record unless you think top ten finishes with Blackburn and Fulham are poor? If Hughes is being ruled out because of his track record we better get on the blower to someone at a top club as none of the other candidates must be worth a wank either. Of course he's being ruled out because of his track record esp recent track record. Turning welsh football around don't talk bollocks they say that about every manager of Wales. Why swap a £1 for a £1. I'm sure if Ken Dodd was in the running you give him a shout. Ok, but I'll give you the quid myself if you can tell me when the last time Wales got within a game of qualifying for a major tournament? I'm curious as to who you are championing with such a marvellous track record that makes Hughes's apparently so shit? Like I say I'm not even that up for Hughes but to suggest he's got a poor track record is utter, utter bollocks.
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 22, 2013 20:36:31 GMT
Of course he's being ruled out because of his track record esp recent track record. Turning welsh football around don't talk bollocks they say that about every manager of Wales. Why swap a £1 for a £1.I'm sure if Ken Dodd was in the running you give him a shout. Ok, but I'll give you the quid myself if you can tell me when the last time Wales got within a game of qualifying for a major tournament? I'm curious as to who you are championing with such a marvellous track record that makes Hughes's apparently so shit? Well it's not exactly perfect is it, be honest. I mean if you looked at Pulis record at Stoke you wouldn't say that was shit. AGAIN ask Man City fans and QPR fans would they have him back!! I know some of both ANC you know what the answer is. Like I say I'm not even that up for Hughes but to suggest he's got a poor track record is utter, utter bollocks.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 20:38:34 GMT
That's the point though, show me a manager that all fans of previous clubs rate and I'll show you a manager that won't want the job at Stoke.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 22, 2013 20:41:41 GMT
I can't believe how many people are ramping Hughes up!?
Look at the record he had a QPR last season. He was given plenty of time and more than enough resources. I repeat with all the money and backing he was given by the QPR owners, he still went into the start of the new campaign with Clint Hill as a first choice centre back. The 38 year old Ryan Nelson was his partner. It was fucking gross negligence. He had a dream job there and royally fucked it up. I don't care what he's done in the past, he should be mainly judged on his last job. In his last job he was by far the worst and biggest under performing manager in the league.
If we have made the bold decision to get rid of Tone to go in a new direction lets it do it. Let's not go down the road of Mark Hughes in some half baked measure. I'm Open minded with most candidates but I just couldn't stomach Hughes. He did an appalling job at QPR let's not make the same mistake as Fernandez.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 20:44:16 GMT
See my above post.
Ask Bristol City fans about Tone.
All managers (or ones that wouldn't come here) have a poor club (or two) on their CV's.
If we rule out everyone who hasn't had a bad spell we will be going into the new season with a rookie or Dave Kemp in charge!!!
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Post by wearestoke80 on May 22, 2013 20:47:24 GMT
spot on I can't believe how many people are ramping Hughes up!? Look at the record he had a QPR last season. He was given plenty of time and more than enough resources. I repeat with all the money and backing he was given by the QPR owners, he still went into the start of the new campaign with Clint Hill as a first choice centre back. The 38 year old Ryan Nelson was his partner. It was fucking gross negligence. He had a dream job there and royally fucked it up. I don't care what he's done in the past, he should be mainly judged on his last job. In his last job he was by far the worst and biggest under performing manager in the league. If we have made the bold decision to get rid of Tone to go in a new direction lets it do it. Let's not go down the road of Mark Hughes in some half baked measure. I'm Open minded with most candidates but I just couldn't stomach Hughes. He did an appalling job at QPR let's not make the same mistake as Fernandez.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 22, 2013 20:53:11 GMT
See my above post. Ask Bristol City fans about Tone. All managers (or ones that wouldn't come here) have a poor club (or two) on their CV's. If we rule out everyone who hasn't had a bad spell we will be going into the new season with a rookie or Dave Kemp in charge!!! A bad spell on the record is understandable but not if it's your last job. We are a good number for someone. We don't have to take someone who has drastically failed in their last job. If a manager had a bad spell somewhere, dropped down a league, proved himself again and was doing a good job in his new position then maybe. If he has just had an absolute catastrophe of a job, we should not be jumping in and offering him a promotion to replace a manager who out performed him last season. No no no Hughes please fucking no.
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Post by jbstokie on May 22, 2013 20:54:23 GMT
"He should be judged on his last job", what a load of shit.
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Post by fca47 on May 22, 2013 20:56:21 GMT
Hughes could turn out to be the new Paul Jewell did well initially but has been a disaster ever since.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 20:57:23 GMT
"He should be judged on his last job", what a load of shit. Exactly. So that's Hughes, RDM and Martinez, Poyet all off the list for various "last job" reading. Who the fuck are we going to have?
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Post by miggo on May 22, 2013 20:58:49 GMT
I can't believe how many people are ramping Hughes up!? Look at the record he had a QPR last season. He was given plenty of time and more than enough resources. I repeat with all the money and backing he was given by the QPR owners, he still went into the start of the new campaign with Clint Hill as a first choice centre back. The 38 year old Ryan Nelson was his partner. It was fucking gross negligence. He had a dream job there and royally fucked it up. I don't care what he's done in the past, he should be mainly judged on his last job. In his last job he was by far the worst and biggest under performing manager in the league. If we have made the bold decision to get rid of Tone to go in a new direction lets it do it. Let's not go down the road of Mark Hughes in some half baked measure. I'm Open minded with most candidates but I just couldn't stomach Hughes. He did an appalling job at QPR let's not make the same mistake as Fernandez. So did Harry floppy chops redknapp the bloke who 99.9% of people wanted as England manager 6 months beforehand QPR cannot be compared. I really don't want him but his record is on par with most mid table managers, he is probably most qualified to take on our current squad and evolve, as much as everyone would love Rafa he had quality teams at Valencia Liverpool inter and Chelsea he's never quite had a challenge this big it would take him 2 - 3 transfer windows thats 12 - 18 months to assemble a quality squad and would he able to manage it its a complete unknown where as Hughes has form his Blackburn squad is very similar to ours right now
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Post by GrandStokie on May 22, 2013 21:00:50 GMT
Bad track record? I can take or leave his possible appointment but he hasn't got a bad track record unless you think top ten finishes with Blackburn and Fulham are poor? If Hughes is being ruled out because of his track record we better get on the blower to someone at a top club as none of the other candidates must be worth a wank either. Of course he's being ruled out because of his track record esp recent track record. Turning welsh football around don't talk bollocks they say that about every manager of Wales. Why swap a £1 for a £1. I'm sure if Ken Dodd was in the running you give him a shout. I think you're talking bollox mate. Take a look at the following link, he's a bit better than you think. Mark Hughes Managerial Career.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 22, 2013 21:02:06 GMT
Exactly? What a load of shit.
RDM, Martinez and Poyet all arguably did decent jobs at their last/current club. Hughes was abysmal.
We are looking to move in a new direction with a more forward thinking approach. Surely we should judge the candidates on their most recent performances?
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Post by bredfieldstokie on May 22, 2013 21:12:29 GMT
The guy is ignorant, has no personality and it would be a step back!!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on May 22, 2013 21:18:52 GMT
Exactly? What a load of shit. RDM, Martinez and Poyet all arguably did decent jobs at their last/current club. Hughes was abysmal. We are looking to move in a new direction with a more forward thinking approach. Surely we should judge the candidates on their most recent performances? RDM - sacked Martinez - relegated Poyet - behaving horrendously Like I said, if we judge solely on their last jobs who will we get?
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Post by digger on May 22, 2013 21:26:11 GMT
somebody better have a plan
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 22, 2013 21:34:58 GMT
Exactly? What a load of shit. RDM, Martinez and Poyet all arguably did decent jobs at their last/current club. Hughes was abysmal. We are looking to move in a new direction with a more forward thinking approach. Surely we should judge the candidates on their most recent performances? RDM - sacked Martinez - relegated Poyet - behaving horrendously Like I said, if we judge solely on their last jobs who will we get? You are being a bit disingenuous there mate. Martinez relegated for a team who were one of favourites for drop but managed to win fa cup and attract plenty of plaudits. Hughes: Created relegation fodder team while being bankrolled and no one was expecting QPR to go down with the money they spent. Di Matteo didn't disgrace himself at all, won the champions league and fans were gutted to see him go. Poyet won promotion with Brighton to championship and created a promotion chasing team with much smaller budget than rivals. He was frustrated through the course of the season with the Brighton board for not backing him more in the transfer market because he knew how close they were. For months he was trying to get them to sign a quality striker that they needed. I don't think his behaviour was disgraceful. He lacked class in the timing of his news but I think there was a lot of frustration pouring out.
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