JudgeMental
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Post by JudgeMental on Apr 30, 2013 9:25:07 GMT
...there was a "middle way" solution over the summer. Instead of a stay/go scenario, what if this was how things pan out?:
There will be a change at the very top (there can't be anyone who doesn't smell the winds of change at board level at the minute) - PC stepping aside in favour of either Denise and/or John. Prior to this (and behind closed doors), TP will be brought up to speed with what's expected in terms of youth policy, transfers, approach to games, etc AND - given an ultimatum - "you can stay on board, but you have until Christmas to prove yourself to the new regime - what's it to be Tony?".
Does anyone else think this is how it could go?
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 30, 2013 9:29:00 GMT
I'd be up for it, but if there was someone that is stuck in his ways and unwilling to change it is tone.
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2013 9:34:07 GMT
Indeed, I would be up for that. I do think however that Pulis would walk after given any type of ultimatum. It's his way or no way.
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Post by jammystokie on Apr 30, 2013 9:34:13 GMT
i'd be happy if Pulis stayed, i quite like watching us in the prem and beating teams like Liverpool on boxing day 3-1...
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2013 9:39:51 GMT
i'd be happy if Pulis stayed, i quite like watching us in the prem and beating teams like Liverpool on boxing day 3-1... We all like watching those games, it's just a shame games like that are one in a plethora of abject turgid shit. H
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 30, 2013 9:41:06 GMT
i'd be happy if Pulis stayed, i quite like watching us in the prem and beating teams like Liverpool on boxing day 3-1... One game a season? Can't wait.
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2013 9:42:00 GMT
i'd be happy if Pulis stayed, i quite like watching us in the prem and beating teams like Liverpool on boxing day 3-1... One game a season? Can't wait. :-X One game a season and the Prem Badge on your shirt don't forget? H
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Post by jammystokie on Apr 30, 2013 9:48:36 GMT
One game a season? Can't wait. One game a season and the Prem Badge on your shirt don't forget? H Correct that was one of the games in the season? Point is...
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2013 10:43:40 GMT
One game a season and the Prem Badge on your shirt don't forget? H Correct that was one of the games in the season? Point is... The point is that you say you like watching us beat the likes of Liverpool 3-1. Well no shit, that was our performance of the season. I'm just wondering what your feelings are on all the shit games that came before it and went after it? You can't be happy with one great game a season can you? H
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 30, 2013 10:55:24 GMT
...there was a "middle way" solution over the summer. Instead of a stay/go scenario, what if this was how things pan out?: There will be a change at the very top (there can't be anyone who doesn't smell the winds of change at board level at the minute) - PC stepping aside in favour of either Denise and/or John. Prior to this (and behind closed doors), TP will be brought up to speed with what's expected in terms of youth policy, transfers, approach to games, etc AND - given an ultimatum - "you can stay on board, but you have until Christmas to prove yourself to the new regime - what's it to be Tony?". Does anyone else think this is how it could go? Thing is if you do that, then you're going to have to give him a ruck of money to spend this summer. If he doesn't prove himself by Christmas, then you're left with a squad of players on new contracts that the new manager hasn't bought, you war chest is empty and you've provided no preason for your new manager. If you've got such doubts about the man, that you're having to give him five month ultimatums, then why would you be prepared to invest in him so heavily now? We've got seven players out of contract this summer and that's before you even consider the other parts of the squad that are going to need addressing also. If you've got any doubts at all about Pulis, then he has to go now, bring the new fella in, allow him to rebuild the side in his own image and give him a proper preseason to work with his new signings.
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Post by Kjones9 on Apr 30, 2013 10:59:25 GMT
One game a season? Can't wait. One game a season and the Prem Badge on your shirt don't forget? H What you trying to say, the tony pulis generation has no ambition?
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 30, 2013 11:01:05 GMT
The manager doesn't believe in any of those things so what would the point in him staying? If given that ultimatum he should leave on his own accord, after all he is a man of principals (isn't he?)
The manager has burned too many bridges as far as I'm concerned, he isn't capable of change and more importantly he has no intention to change - fuck him off now.
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Post by snapper23 on Apr 30, 2013 11:04:46 GMT
...there was a "middle way" solution over the summer. Instead of a stay/go scenario, what if this was how things pan out?: There will be a change at the very top (there can't be anyone who doesn't smell the winds of change at board level at the minute) - PC stepping aside in favour of either Denise and/or John. Prior to this (and behind closed doors), TP will be brought up to speed with what's expected in terms of youth policy, transfers, approach to games, etc AND - given an ultimatum - "you can stay on board, but you have until Christmas to prove yourself to the new regime - what's it to be Tony?". Does anyone else think this is how it could go? Thing is if you do that, then you're going to have to give him a ruck of money to spend this summer. If he doesn't prove himself by Christmas, then you're left with a squad of players on new contracts that the new manager hasn't bought, you war chest is empty and you've provided no preason for your new manager. If you've got such doubts about the man, that you're having to give him five month ultimatums, then why would you be prepared to invest in him so heavily now? We've got seven players out of contract this summer and that's before you even consider the other parts of the squad that are going to need addressing also. If you've got any doubts at all about Pulis, then he has to go now, bring the new fella in, allow him to rebuild the side in his own image and give him a proper preseason to work with his new signings. Spot on
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 30, 2013 11:05:10 GMT
Isn't there a possibility that TP could be given the option of moving upstairs into some other role?
Not sure what that role would be though, or even if it would be good for the club.
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Post by cousindupree on Apr 30, 2013 11:14:45 GMT
...there was a "middle way" solution over the summer. Instead of a stay/go scenario, what if this was how things pan out?: There will be a change at the very top (there can't be anyone who doesn't smell the winds of change at board level at the minute) - PC stepping aside in favour of either Denise and/or John. Prior to this (and behind closed doors), TP will be brought up to speed with what's expected in terms of youth policy, transfers, approach to games, etc AND - given an ultimatum - "you can stay on board, but you have until Christmas to prove yourself to the new regime - what's it to be Tony?". Does anyone else think this is how it could go? Thing is if you do that, then you're going to have to give him a ruck of money to spend this summer. If he doesn't prove himself by Christmas, then you're left with a squad of players on new contracts that the new manager hasn't bought, you war chest is empty and you've provided no preason for your new manager. If you've got such doubts about the man, that you're having to give him five month ultimatums, then why would you be prepared to invest in him so heavily now? We've got seven players out of contract this summer and that's before you even consider the other parts of the squad that are going to need addressing also. If you've got any doubts at all about Pulis, then he has to go now, bring the new fella in, allow him to rebuild the side in his own image and give him a proper preseason to work with his new signings. Yes this is the real danger of procrastinating over the decision.This summer is a major crossroads for us with quite a few players leaving.That together with increased Sky dosh the sale of Bego will provide a huge amount of money to invest in a major overhaul of the squad.Why delay the decision? If he goes at Christmas it will be that much more difficult to inject a new approach and an incoming manager would simply be ensuring we survive until the end of the season. We would then be one year on and more money wasted without making any progress. I really think TP has run out of ideas and his tenure looks tired and smacks of the same old ways.The whole footballing philosophy at Stoke needs new impetus. There really will not be a better chance than May 2013. I really hope PC doesn't let this opportunity pass him buy. He simply has to look further than just the next Sky cheque.
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Post by keasie1863 on Apr 30, 2013 11:23:51 GMT
...there was a "middle way" solution over the summer. Instead of a stay/go scenario, what if this was how things pan out?: There will be a change at the very top (there can't be anyone who doesn't smell the winds of change at board level at the minute) - PC stepping aside in favour of either Denise and/or John. Prior to this (and behind closed doors), TP will be brought up to speed with what's expected in terms of youth policy, transfers, approach to games, etc AND - given an ultimatum - "you can stay on board, but you have until Christmas to prove yourself to the new regime - what's it to be Tony?". Does anyone else think this is how it could go? Take a look at his previous clubs.the man either cant change, or he wont change.he is not going to change.so dont talk about change, when there wont be any change.just get fuckin rid.change my arse.
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Post by Funky on Apr 30, 2013 11:45:02 GMT
Rudge is leaving, give Pulis his job.
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JudgeMental
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Post by JudgeMental on Apr 30, 2013 11:55:23 GMT
...there was a "middle way" solution over the summer. Instead of a stay/go scenario, what if this was how things pan out?: There will be a change at the very top (there can't be anyone who doesn't smell the winds of change at board level at the minute) - PC stepping aside in favour of either Denise and/or John. Prior to this (and behind closed doors), TP will be brought up to speed with what's expected in terms of youth policy, transfers, approach to games, etc AND - given an ultimatum - "you can stay on board, but you have until Christmas to prove yourself to the new regime - what's it to be Tony?". Does anyone else think this is how it could go? Take a look at his previous clubs.the man either cant change, or he wont change.he is not going to change.so dont talk about change, when there wont be any change.just get fuckin rid.change my arse. Fair points from both of you. I guess if the broom's going to be used, it has to be early. Which then begs the question (assuming they've got their preparation done) "who are the board about to tap up as new manager?".
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Post by somersetstokie on Apr 30, 2013 11:57:21 GMT
If Tone were to "move upstairs", then Rudgie's former role or position will be available.
Whatever it was!
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Post by RAF on Apr 30, 2013 12:35:10 GMT
If Tone were to "move upstairs", then Rudgie's former role or position will be available. Whatever it was! Worst golfer at Trentham Park was his official title. H
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 30, 2013 13:00:12 GMT
If only we could approach ALL our games like the one v Liverpool on Boxing day,there is every chance we could finish in the top 8 with 50/60 pts. But you just know Pulis wont do it,even in that Liverpool game we had no choice but to go at them after going 1-0 down so early,makes you wonder how that game would have panned out if they had not got that early Penalty?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2013 14:05:07 GMT
Isn't there a possibility that TP could be given the option of moving upstairs into some other role? Not sure what that role would be though, or even if it would be good for the club. sorted......
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Post by whereami on Apr 30, 2013 16:37:12 GMT
What could he possibly add?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 30, 2013 16:40:50 GMT
...there was a "middle way" solution over the summer. Instead of a stay/go scenario, what if this was how things pan out?: There will be a change at the very top (there can't be anyone who doesn't smell the winds of change at board level at the minute) - PC stepping aside in favour of either Denise and/or John. Prior to this (and behind closed doors), TP will be brought up to speed with what's expected in terms of youth policy, transfers, approach to games, etc AND - given an ultimatum - "you can stay on board, but you have until Christmas to prove yourself to the new regime - what's it to be Tony?". Does anyone else think this is how it could go? Waste of time imo, anyone that knows Pulis's record will know he won't change his approach, best just to let him go in the summer and give a new man enough time to sort the team out to how he wants it.
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