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Post by RichardTMP on Apr 28, 2013 12:08:27 GMT
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 28, 2013 12:23:14 GMT
Yes
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 28, 2013 12:41:37 GMT
Yep
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 28, 2013 12:42:24 GMT
Yes criminally underused.
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 28, 2013 12:44:07 GMT
Without doubt
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 28, 2013 12:44:59 GMT
No, hes helped but hes not the main or only reason.
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Post by RichardTMP on Apr 28, 2013 12:46:27 GMT
No, hes helped but hes not the main or only reason. Against Man Utd, he was the only positive. He was and is the only player that isn't afraid to receive the ball and send it forward with either a shot or a pass. He has given the squad something to be positive about.
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Post by Tony Clueless on Apr 28, 2013 12:46:44 GMT
The lads word arrd not as arrd as the great Johny Walters
Work arrd lads work arrd
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 28, 2013 12:48:05 GMT
he seems better with a couple of players in front of him that he can find with his fine array of passing. He played a lovely give and go with Crouch yesterday which created another chance. I doubt any of our other midfielders would think about even trying a 1-2 that far up the pitch.
We still need some wingers in the team so hes not the only creative option we have. But overall with Jerome offering that pace upfront its giving Adam a little bit of space to pick a pass.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 28, 2013 12:50:15 GMT
No, hes helped but hes not the main or only reason. Against Man Utd, he was the only positive. He was and is the only player that isn't afraid to receive the ball and send it forward with either a shot or a pass. He has given the squad something to be positive about. I agree hes be a positive influence, but performances wise he hasn't been a big factor, at QPR he was rightly subbed, didn't have the best of games, yesterday he was decent enough but I must admit I was a little surprised that he got MOTM, but fair enough.
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Post by RichardTMP on Apr 28, 2013 12:53:36 GMT
Against Man Utd, he was the only positive. He was and is the only player that isn't afraid to receive the ball and send it forward with either a shot or a pass. He has given the squad something to be positive about. I agree hes be a positive influence, but performances wise he hasn't been a big factor, at QPR he was rightly subbed, didn't have the best of games, yesterday he was decent enough but I must admit I was a little surprised that he got MOTM, but fair enough. He probably was given motm due to him being the only person on the pitch not afraid to shoot and his passing to be fair. If we play like we did at QPR with a 4-2-3-1 with the 3 being Walters, Jerome and Adam with Walters and Adam not going to wide i think that could work very well, as it did against QPR. Against Norwich it had seemed that we had gone back to a 4-4-1-1 with Adam playing the right sided midfielder and in all honesty he didn't do a bad job.
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Post by greenhoff74 on Apr 28, 2013 12:55:56 GMT
Don't underestimate a good work ethic player, my god Newcastle could of done with few Walters yesterday.
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Post by borat on Apr 28, 2013 12:57:27 GMT
Adam is class at times, I remember when Blackpool beating us 1-0 down here and he absolutely ran the show that day and remember thinking " I wish we could have him" . He's the only player who can create his own space with the ball, he's superb at it. When he had the ball in the corner at the end of the game that was awesome! He's a positive player, he looks up and passes FORWARD which none of our players do ( except Ryan's hoofs of course)! Right wing out of position and man of the match, superb Charlie lad.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 28, 2013 13:03:27 GMT
Adam is class at times, I remember when Blackpool beating us 1-0 down here and he absolutely ran the show that day and remember thinking " I wish we could have him" . He's the only player who can create his own space with the ball, he's superb at it. When he had the ball in the corner at the end of the game that was awesome! He's a positive player, he looks up and passes FORWARD which none of our players do ( except Ryan's hoofs of course)! Right wing out of position and man of the match, superb Charlie lad. If we can teach him to do the rest of the things a midfielder needs to be able to do then he could be good for CM next season.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 28, 2013 13:04:50 GMT
I agree hes be a positive influence, but performances wise he hasn't been a big factor, at QPR he was rightly subbed, didn't have the best of games, yesterday he was decent enough but I must admit I was a little surprised that he got MOTM, but fair enough. He probably was given motm due to him being the only person on the pitch not afraid to shoot and his passing to be fair. If we play like we did at QPR with a 4-2-3-1 with the 3 being Walters, Jerome and Adam with Walters and Adam not going to wide i think that could work very well, as it did against QPR. Against Norwich it had seemed that we had gone back to a 4-4-1-1 with Adam playing the right sided midfielder and in all honesty he didn't do a bad job. We did look better against QPR but I'm still not convinced there was much of a change formation wise, just a bit more freedom for certain players to get forward.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 28, 2013 13:19:13 GMT
Hes never a right winger in a million years, but I think Pulis has seen sense and realizes he needs to fit him in the team. He has a lot of freedom to roam and doesnt have much defensive duties which is all for the best.
If Walters does all the running around and tracking back I think it can work ok for the time being. But its not the most balanced set-up, which is ok while we dont have any wingers on form
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 28, 2013 13:21:55 GMT
Charlie has done well lately, but the change of formation has done wonders too!
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Post by RichardTMP on Apr 28, 2013 13:29:21 GMT
He probably was given motm due to him being the only person on the pitch not afraid to shoot and his passing to be fair. If we play like we did at QPR with a 4-2-3-1 with the 3 being Walters, Jerome and Adam with Walters and Adam not going to wide i think that could work very well, as it did against QPR. Against Norwich it had seemed that we had gone back to a 4-4-1-1 with Adam playing the right sided midfielder and in all honesty he didn't do a bad job. We did look better against QPR but I'm still not convinced there was much of a change formation wise, just a bit more freedom for certain players to get forward. In QPR the formation was like a 4-2-3-1 with Walters and Adam playing very narrow, whereas against Norwich the two of them played as wide midfielders. Either way Adam has made an impact on the team since his involvement against Manchester United.
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Post by jarhead on Apr 28, 2013 13:34:26 GMT
He is a top player with a brain unlike many others we have been bored to tears with because the others work arrrrrrd and why we have been creating sod all.
But still Adam is played out of position but his quality helps him and us to get some creation from him.
Adam in Pulis Out
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Post by MuddyWoody on Apr 28, 2013 13:49:48 GMT
I think having Adam on the pitch and playing well, in conjunction with having the pace of Jerome up front with Crouch is what's made the difference. Although he's not scored any goals CJ has given us another outlet. His pace and strength creates room for others to run into, as with Adam's goal yesterday, as well as scaring the shite out of opposition defenders.
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Post by Godo on Apr 28, 2013 14:27:54 GMT
Absolutely - and his willingness to break out of the cage and actualy get forward and support Crouch appears to be encouraging N'Zonzi to play with more freedom and drive. And before any Rimmers say he was doing this to Pulis's instruction they obvioulsy didn't see Pulis reverting to full anti-Hoefkens stupid child mould and stamping and throwing his bottle when Adam moved from the 30 yard box either side of the half way line that Pulis wanted him to stay in. Aimless lumps forward are fine but try an imaginative pass and be 2 feet out and another water bottle get's thrown out of the pram! Almost as pathetic and desperate as Pulis's recent press interviews!!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 28, 2013 14:28:27 GMT
Adam has made a difference - he's the only genuinely creative player we have - given Pennant and Ethers are out of the picture. And even on the wing his quality shines through. And, given his very dodgy tackling, I'd rather see him on the wing than in a two man midfield alongside N'Zonzi.
But, equally important in the last two games has been the pairing of Jerome and Crouch - where TP has, at last, months too late, accepted that Jerome should lead the line with Crouch as a withdrawn target man. For far too long TP has persisted with Crouch leading the line where his lack of pace makes him a very poor option. With Jerome leading the line, even though his shooting is not the best, he has the pace to drag defenders all over the place and to get on to the end of Crouch's flick ons.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 28, 2013 14:28:35 GMT
I think having Adam on the pitch and playing well, in conjunction with having the pace of Jerome up front with Crouch is what's made the difference. Although he's not scored any goals CJ has given us another outlet. His pace and strength creates room for others to run into, as with Adam's goal yesterday, as well as scaring the shite out of opposition defenders. Totally agree. Spot on.
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Post by sloughstokie on Apr 28, 2013 17:00:25 GMT
Dident some peeps say hed be a good capt
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Apr 28, 2013 17:03:09 GMT
That's 3 Charlie Adam 1-0ers this season. 9 massive points
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Post by stokemark on Apr 28, 2013 17:06:46 GMT
I think having Adam on the pitch and playing well, in conjunction with having the pace of Jerome up front with Crouch is what's made the difference. Although he's not scored any goals CJ has given us another outlet. His pace and strength creates room for others to run into, as with Adam's goal yesterday, as well as scaring the shite out of opposition defenders. Totally agree. Spot on. Seems to have a leadership quality about him that we were sorely lacking too And quite remarkably I thought he defended reasonably well yesterday too Build a team around him and N'zonzi, Shawcross and Huth
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 28, 2013 17:09:29 GMT
It sure is.
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Post by sloughstokie on Apr 28, 2013 22:18:38 GMT
Seems to have a leadership quality about him that we were sorely lacking too And quite remarkably I thought he defended reasonably well yesterday too Build a team around him and N'zonzi, Shawcross and Huth Yep i go with that
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Post by adi on Apr 28, 2013 22:26:14 GMT
Adam is class at times, I remember when Blackpool beating us 1-0 down here and he absolutely ran the show that day and remember thinking " I wish we could have him" . He's the only player who can create his own space with the ball, he's superb at it. When he had the ball in the corner at the end of the game that was awesome! He's a positive player, he looks up and passes FORWARD which none of our players do ( except Ryan's hoofs of course)! Right wing out of position and man of the match, superb Charlie lad. If we can teach him to do the rest of the things a midfielder needs to be able to do then he could be good for CM next season. I dont agree. Granted his tackles arent great but hes not there to be a spare CB or winger hes a great ball playing mid. You dont see Oscar or Hazard doing Fellainis job or Mikel surging forward creating space. Horses for courses and without Adam we'd still be deep in the shit.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 28, 2013 22:34:07 GMT
I think playing Crouch and Jerome as a front two has had much more of an impact and of course the fact that we've come up against two absolutely dog shit football teams in back to back matches.
Adam wasn't very good at Loftus Road at all.
That's not to say I wouldn't stick with him on the right though.
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