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Post by kevkj on Feb 17, 2013 17:22:28 GMT
Every time i see Wigan play im impressed with Mcarthur,Mcarthy and Maloney,all very gifted and comfortable on the ball. Now compare that with our Ws in similar poitions.Whitehead,Whelan and Walters.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2013 17:30:15 GMT
How much did they all cost?
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Post by kevkj on Feb 17, 2013 17:36:44 GMT
Not a lot at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 17:39:15 GMT
Every time i see Wigan play im impressed with Mcarthur,Mcarthy and Maloney,all very gifted and comfortable on the ball. Now compare that with our Ws in similar poitions.Whitehead,Whelan and Walters. What about Mcmanaman? Martinez? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 17, 2013 17:42:38 GMT
Kone would be ideal for us.
I said that before he signed for them too, he's been good.
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Post by kevkj on Feb 17, 2013 17:45:34 GMT
McCarthur is very,very good.A poor mans Gerrard.
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Post by werrington on Feb 17, 2013 17:54:52 GMT
We could well sign them but Pulis would not use them Kev
Its no good slaughtering Whelan and Walters week after week after week when all they do is the job the manager asks of them.
The personel are totally irrelevant
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 17:59:08 GMT
Maloney cost 850k. McCarthy cost 1.2M. McArthur cost 500k. A grand total of 2.55M.
450k less than Danny Collins, Ibrahima Sonko or Seyi Olofinjana.
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Post by kevkj on Feb 17, 2013 18:02:20 GMT
Werrington i see your point and agree mostly,bit i lose you on is that neither of ours can pass offensively or even look comfortable in posession of the ball.
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Post by pretzel on Feb 17, 2013 18:03:09 GMT
Every time i see Wigan play im impressed with Mcarthur,Mcarthy and Maloney,all very gifted and comfortable on the ball. Now compare that with our Ws in similar poitions.Whitehead,Whelan and Walters. Maybe if you turned our W's upside down they'd be better? |
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Post by werrington on Feb 17, 2013 18:04:06 GMT
Werrington i see your point and agree mostly,bit i lose you on is that neither of ours can pass offensively or even look comfortable in posession of the ball. We dont do passing Kev.......and that goes right through the team not just our midfield |
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Post by PolPotter on Feb 17, 2013 18:05:34 GMT
Maloney cost 850k. McCarthy cost 1.2M. McArthur cost 500k. A grand total of 2.55M. 450k less than Danny Collins, Ibrahima Sonko or Seyi Olofinjana. Well, when it's put like that... |
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Post by scfc75 on Feb 17, 2013 18:07:41 GMT
We could well sign them but Pulis would not use them Kev Its no good slaughtering Whelan and Walters week after week after week when all they do is the job the manager asks of them. The personel are totally irrelevant Indeed. We will only accommodate better players if we change the way we set up and approach games. No good having creative, passing players when all you want to do is avoid defeat. |
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 17, 2013 18:21:00 GMT
Martinez keeps finding little gems like these doesn't he.? It would be a bit like Tonge, Soares, Ness and Edu being half descent?
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Post by werrington on Feb 17, 2013 18:23:24 GMT
Martinez keeps finding little gems like these doesn't he.? It would be a bit like Tonge, Soares, Ness and Edu being half descent? If Pulis was ever to resign or be sacked i would have Martinez in a flash mate. No cash, constantlly selling his better players for huge profits and piss poor crowds. He is an excellent manager |
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Post by mcfcdavid on Feb 17, 2013 18:38:14 GMT
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Post by telltale on Feb 17, 2013 18:42:01 GMT
Signed as an 18 year old three and half years ago and now a first team regular. He'd be out on loan at fucking Carlisle if Pulis had signed him. |
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Post by prettything on Feb 17, 2013 18:44:52 GMT
Not sure If I agree with you.
Always down the bottom, and haven't really kicked on compared to Bruce's reign at the club. He has signed quite a few duds as well.
Maybe a bit over rated for my liking while talking a good game. Still young, though, we will see. I still think the only man out there to replace Pulis would be Benitez.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 18:46:01 GMT
Martinez keeps finding little gems like these doesn't he.? It would be a bit like Tonge, Soares, Ness and Edu being half descent? If Pulis was ever to resign or be sacked i would have Martinez in a flash mate. No cash, constantlly selling his better players for huge profits and piss poor crowds. He is an excellent manager He would be my choice as well Werrington. Not too sure he would come here though? |
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Post by meltonjohn on Feb 17, 2013 19:38:30 GMT
Stoke are 10th, Wigan are 19th. They must have much better players.....oh, hang on...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 19:43:53 GMT
Martinez keeps finding little gems like these doesn't he.? It would be a bit like Tonge, Soares, Ness and Edu being half descent? Is it Martinez though or is it their scouting system? |
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Post by DannyStokie on Feb 17, 2013 19:44:17 GMT
Is she hot?
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Post by harrysburrow on Feb 17, 2013 20:20:43 GMT
Martinez keeps finding little gems like these doesn't he.? It would be a bit like Tonge, Soares, Ness and Edu being half descent? Is it Martinez though or is it their scouting system? Maybe they do have an excellent scouting system mate? I'd like to see how Martinez would go on if Wigan had more financial clout, bigger fan base etc. granted, they struggle every season, but that has a lot to do with the fact they have to constantly sell their best players? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 20:23:31 GMT
Is it Martinez though or is it their scouting system? Maybe they do have an excellent scouting system mate? I'd like to see how Martinez would go on if Wigan had more financial clout, bigger fan base etc. granted, they struggle every season, but that has a lot to do with the fact they have to constantly sell their best players? It could be Martinez I guess, just recall them finding the likes of Palacios and Valencia under Bruce and Jewell so they must have some decent scouts. Always wondered how Martinez gets this reputation that sees him linked to big jobs when he isn't doing any better than his predecessors. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 17, 2013 20:34:20 GMT
Stoke are 10th, Wigan are 19th. They must have much better players.....oh, hang on... Shhhhhhhhhhhh, you can't say that, clearly they are a superior team. |
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Post by dam on Feb 17, 2013 20:59:15 GMT
I said this before when a martinez/wigan thread cropped up, put huth and shawcroft in wigans back line and they would be pushing for europe, they are gash at the back and they have NEVER had c. 90 million to do anything about it.
Steve Bruce hit the nail on the head when he left wigan to go to sunderland and bought his first players - its like being able to shop at Harrods after spending the last 2 years in Aldi.
The only doubt for me in martinez's make up is the defensive sid of his game - everything else is light years better than pullis and his hoof ball /out muscle the opponent type of football.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 21:01:08 GMT
They've never exactly troubled the top scoring end of the charts for all their pretty football though have they? And Martinez spends £4-5m a year on new centre halves and they never get any better at the back.
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Post by StokeyMan on Feb 17, 2013 21:06:44 GMT
I don't think there is a much better player suited to the currently Adam role, that we could realistically attract than Maloney. When we lump the ball forward, and it is knocked down to usually the player behind the target man, we generally don't have the passing ability there. Maloney could be that guy to play the through balls after the knock down.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 18, 2013 13:11:15 GMT
Didn't they try for McGeady in the window too?
That Espinoza bloke they signed looks a right nutter too.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 18, 2013 15:15:15 GMT
Maybe they do have an excellent scouting system mate? I'd like to see how Martinez would go on if Wigan had more financial clout, bigger fan base etc. granted, they struggle every season, but that has a lot to do with the fact they have to constantly sell their best players? It could be Martinez I guess, just recall them finding the likes of Palacios and Valencia under Bruce and Jewell so they must have some decent scouts. Always wondered how Martinez gets this reputation that sees him linked to big jobs when he isn't doing any better than his predecessors. Dan, Espinoza looks a wicked player. Rob I think it's worth noting the way Wigan play and that is another reason for his plaudits. They do play some great stuff. |
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