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Post by kevkj on Feb 2, 2013 16:56:20 GMT
Garbage isnt it,hopfully we will just stay up but we are in freefall. Questions now have to be asked of the managerial set up. Its dross play for a draw away week in week out just to lose anyway. Next week could be be the straw that breaks the camels back. So dissapointed were going backwards.Hard work isnt enough.  |
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Post by nott1 on Feb 2, 2013 16:57:29 GMT
Get lost man!
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Post by bristolpotter123 on Feb 2, 2013 16:58:24 GMT
Two key things required total support to ensure we stay up , then change the manager
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 16:58:27 GMT
We are going backwards and it's nowhere near good enough.
If this manager had anything about him he'd walk. Still, true to form he's waiting for his pay off.
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Post by bristolpotter on Feb 2, 2013 16:58:44 GMT
Get lost Pulis more like
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 16:58:53 GMT
Yeah but look where we have come from and no other manager in the world would have achieved what we have with just shy of £100m.
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Post by padders01 on Feb 2, 2013 17:03:54 GMT
1 win in 22 away
Second lowest scorers in the league, lowest are bottom of the league
Only 5 teams have won less games than us
4 goals in last 10 away games
1 win in last 6 home games
MASSIVE game on Saturday vs Reading and I mean HUGE
Not just for league position but the general feeling in and around the club/ground after the game
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Feb 2, 2013 17:06:27 GMT
Yet another tactical away masterclass from the capped one. Waits till concedes and then throws three forwards on. Lets be honest lads its Sunday league management at its worst.
That's the worst arsenal team stoke have played their obvious weakness is at the back so what do we do for 80 minutes? Have a guess
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Post by stokemark on Feb 2, 2013 17:12:32 GMT
Yet another tactical away masterclass from the capped one. Waits till concedes and then throws three forwards on. Lets be honest lads its Sunday league management at its worst. That's the worst arsenal team stoke have played their obvious weakness is at the back so what do we do for 80 minutes? Have a guess It is Sunday league stuff - I agree |
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Post by zigazaga on Feb 2, 2013 17:14:17 GMT
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Post by SidibeGod on Feb 2, 2013 17:14:47 GMT
Yet another tactical away masterclass from the capped one. Waits till concedes and then throws three forwards on. Lets be honest lads its Sunday league management at its worst. That's the worst arsenal team stoke have played their obvious weakness is at the back so what do we do for 80 minutes? Have a guess It is Sunday league stuff - I agree ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by kevkj on Feb 2, 2013 17:16:06 GMT
Problem is any other manager is stuck with those fullbacks.
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Post by philm87 on Feb 2, 2013 17:17:50 GMT
1 win in 22 away Second lowest scorers in the league, lowest are bottom of the league Only 5 teams have won less games than us 4 goals in last 10 away games 1 win in last 6 home games MASSIVE game on Saturday vs Reading and I mean HUGE Not just for league position but the general feeling in and around the club/ground after the game Surely those statistics are not an objective representation of where we are? You deliberately ignore statistics about our defence and focus exclusively on our lack of goals. You deliberately ignore statistics about our home form and focus exclusively on our away form. And of course the most important statistic over all is our position in the league, which you also fail to mention. I'm not saying there aren't problems, but the picture you are painting is incredibly one-sided. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 17:19:36 GMT
1 win in 22 away Second lowest scorers in the league, lowest are bottom of the league Only 5 teams have won less games than us 4 goals in last 10 away games 1 win in last 6 home games MASSIVE game on Saturday vs Reading and I mean HUGE Not just for league position but the general feeling in and around the club/ground after the game Surely those statistics are not an objective representation of where we are? You deliberately ignore statistics about our defence and focus exclusively on our lack of goals. You deliberately ignore statistics about our home form and focus exclusively on our away form. And of course the most important statistic over all is our position in the league, which you also fail to mention. I'm not saying there aren't problems, but the picture you are painting is incredibly one-sided. The defence that's leaking goals? Also the 1 win in 6 at home? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 17:20:36 GMT
Also more importantly than any stat, it's so fucking boring to watch. He is single handedly destroying my enthusiasm for football all for the sake of 40 points.
Fuck me he's a grim manager.
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Post by philm87 on Feb 2, 2013 17:22:43 GMT
Surely those statistics are not an objective representation of where we are? You deliberately ignore statistics about our defence and focus exclusively on our lack of goals. You deliberately ignore statistics about our home form and focus exclusively on our away form. And of course the most important statistic over all is our position in the league, which you also fail to mention. I'm not saying there aren't problems, but the picture you are painting is incredibly one-sided. The defence that's leaking goals? Also the 1 win in 6 at home? Well, he says we are the second lowest scorers in the league. What is the equivalent statistic for our defensive record? Yes we have only won 1 in our last 6 home games. We have also only lost 1 and that was against Chelsea. We are clearly going through a poor run at the moment, so focusing exclusively on that poor run is a bit misleading. |
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Post by philm87 on Feb 2, 2013 17:24:23 GMT
Also more importantly than any stat, it's so fucking boring to watch. He is single handedly destroying my enthusiasm for football all for the sake of 40 points. Fuck me he's a grim manager. How is that more important than our league position? Surely the most important thing is our results, performances, league position? I'm not saying we should all blindly accept dull football forever, but we need to get grip and stop focusing on the negatives all the time. |
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Post by kevkj on Feb 2, 2013 17:26:37 GMT
one win in 10 man ,cant see the wood for the trees.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2013 17:27:18 GMT
The defence that's leaking goals? Also the 1 win in 6 at home? Well, he says we are the second lowest scorers in the league. What is the equivalent statistic for our defensive record? Yes we have only won 1 in our last 6 home games. We have also only lost 1 and that was against Chelsea. We are clearly going through a poor run at the moment, so focusing exclusively on that poor run is a bit misleading. This poor run is getting stronger with each season. Ok we have drawn 4, lost 1 and won 1 at home in 6. Barely sounds anymore appealing when you look at our away form. We have let in 29, nothing special for the most formidable defence in the league. |
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Post by philm87 on Feb 2, 2013 17:29:50 GMT
one win in 10 man ,cant see the wood for the trees. I'm more bothered about how many we get out of 38... 10 games will not make our season. |
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Post by go4stoke on Feb 2, 2013 17:34:36 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Feb 2, 2013 17:41:37 GMT
Philm,
We have lost more than we have won, we are not keeping clean sheets, and we are not scoring.
I think some people would view that as being a reason to have concerns?
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Post by padders01 on Feb 2, 2013 18:16:39 GMT
The defence that's leaking goals? Also the 1 win in 6 at home? Well, he says we are the second lowest scorers in the league. What is the equivalent statistic for our defensive record? Yes we have only won 1 in our last 6 home games. We have also only lost 1 and that was against Chelsea. We are clearly going through a poor run at the moment, so focusing exclusively on that poor run is a bit misleading. You can't win football matches without scoring Now many might be happy with clean sheet after clean sheet but unless we score we are never going to win a football match My stats are all honest and true, yes there are others, yes they are more positive but when we have won 1 in 10 and 1 in 22 away it's quite difficult to find many positives |
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Post by skelman on Feb 2, 2013 18:23:34 GMT
Bottom of the EPL form guide 2 points from last 18  |
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