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Post by prem4stoke on Jan 30, 2013 20:03:00 GMT
well if he has better players and he is tactically superior what the **** are they doing 10 points behind? The scarey thing is they don't have better players. With the exception of McCarthy and Maloney, all our players are better!! Read through the threads practically all our players ate shit apparently |
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Post by sjohank on Jan 30, 2013 20:06:41 GMT
Whelan, Walters and Whitehead are not PL players. And the team seems totally shambolic. Totally agree. Genuine warriors, but totally lack of quality required in PL. Wake up, TP! |
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Post by Batfink on Jan 30, 2013 20:08:44 GMT
The scarey thing is they don't have better players. With the exception of McCarthy and Maloney, all our players are better!! Read through the threads practically all our players ate shit apparently Sick bastards! To whom did the shit belong? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2013 20:09:01 GMT
We need better than Whitehead as a back up central midfielder.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 30, 2013 20:10:50 GMT
The scarey thing is they don't have better players. With the exception of McCarthy and Maloney, all our players are better!! Read through the threads practically all our players ate shit apparently I don't think any of our players are shit they're just not allowed to play to their full potential. With the possible exception of Whelan, Whitehead and Walters from last nights starting 11 the rest are playing well within themselves and are far better footballers than we saw last night. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 30, 2013 20:12:46 GMT
What did we learn?
An extra centre half just confuses Ryan and Robert.
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Post by prem4stoke on Jan 30, 2013 20:13:53 GMT
Read through the threads practically all our players ate shit apparently Sick bastards! To whom did the shit belong? ha ha ;D  |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 30, 2013 20:29:24 GMT
Jerome is the thickest player I have ever known. Based on what? OK he doesn't have the greatest touch, but thick? Personally I didn't notice him doing anything less intelligent than any of the other players. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 30, 2013 20:57:45 GMT
well if he has better players and he is tactically superior what the **** are they doing 10 points behind? The scarey thing is they don't have better players. With the exception of McCarthy and Maloney, all our players are better!! what? MacArthur showed more finishing class than half our team last night'  Even KJ can't finish that... fuller could of. For me the #1 problem is a midfield who doesn't attack Adam showed what happens for us when you move forward get a shot on goal and have a striker like crouchget that easy knock in. Where as Whelan ( who looks like a confused child entering a movie theater half way into a damn movie out there) Didn't do fuck all last game, walters didn't move around and come to the ball he's become lazy waiting for hoofs. Whitehead and nzonzi first half were brill pushing up into attack supporting. Second half nzonzi off we had no adam and no midfield attacking presence, deano supports he's more defensive and knows his role which lead to wigan throwing it all in attack. We need another attacking center mid in whelans spot to link up with adam and the front men if deano and nzonzi get involved in attack we do well but imo pulis's tactical changes made us throw in the midfield get 11 back mentality. Our new 75' min on tactical change the berlin wall effect' |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 21:07:00 GMT
Charlie Adam can play in midfield and isn't shit like so many experts were proclaiming the other day.
We are in desperate need for two fullbacks,the system we played last night highlighted this fact more than ever.
More fans are starting to turn against Pulis than some would like to believe.
We still have a squad top heavy with championship standard players.
Tony Pulis will never change and at 2-2 shit himself and protected what we had,gutless management at its best.
Even a shit team(supposedly anyway)like Wigan can run circles around us and pass us to death.
Roberto Martinez has his team playing the type of football that I would love to see us playing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2013 21:07:34 GMT
I still think Adam is pretty shit. ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2013 21:18:00 GMT
I still think Adam is pretty shit. ;D Fair enough. For me he proved that he can be influential playing in his rightful position. I'm not saying he is any kind of world beater but compared to some of the players we have at our disposal in the midfield area he is pretty far from shit in my opinion. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2013 21:20:21 GMT
I still think Adam is pretty shit. ;D Fair enough. For me he proved that he can be influential playing in his rightful position. I'm not saying he is any kind of world beater but compared to some of the players we have at our disposal in the midfield area he is pretty far from shit in my opinion. He did play last night and it was mental to sub him, he's just not my cup of tea though.  |
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Post by stokeyank on Jan 30, 2013 21:41:30 GMT
From what I can gather TP has drilled into the heads of the back 3-4 (often this includes the back 7-8) to stay behind your man and when in doubt hoof it long. While this works well defensively for many situations it does not allow us to keep any type of possession and build any attacking play in the midfield. No wonder virtually all of our goals come from counters and set pieces!!
Obviously we do not want to let everyone run free behind the defense but it keeps us constantly on our heels and moving backwards.
It's very difficult for anyone to play a consistent game with those tactics (though I agree Whelan, Whitehead and Kightly are not up to the needed quality).
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Post by dam on Jan 30, 2013 21:59:10 GMT
For all of you saying how shit wigan are i will add this, take huth and shawcross out of the city team and put them in the wigan side and they would leave us for dead, I dont care what anyone says about tones substitutes, nzonzi was rubbish last night and charlie adam looked dead on his feet after doing nzonzi job as well as his own.
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Even KJ can't finish that... fuller could of. 
