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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 22:24:13 GMT
ST9, we don't just share the same postcode mate. Today was simply tactical suicide. But why Bunny? TP is normally so conservative, especially away from home. Hidden injuries? resting players? I just can't fathom it out. |
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Post by RAF on Jan 19, 2013 22:30:34 GMT
It's not just as simple as a yes or no answer though.
Unless Coates would be prepared to give a new manager at least 80 million to assemble a squad they could work with then it would be a waste of time getting rid of Pulis.
I've thought about it a few times and I can't think of a manager that would be prepared to come to Stoke who could make a significant difference.
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Post by Onneravineet on Jan 19, 2013 22:35:04 GMT
I've kind of given my answer already but feel I need to add.
I applauded the return of TP. Welcomed his approach and still respect most of what he brings.
However, I am losing my desire to go to games, no longer go to 10+ away games per year and now find myself agreeing with supporters of other teams who repeatedly tell me they couldn't watch "that shit". All as a result of TP. I still support him BUT if he sells Kenny and persists in the Adam, Crouch and Walters on the wing the tactical trilogy of woe he can fuck off or me.
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Post by bubbaboo on Jan 19, 2013 22:35:43 GMT
bravo!
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Post by stokie25 on Jan 19, 2013 22:36:16 GMT
Any manager who comes here to replace TP, even in the future, inherits this squad and that is going to take a significant amount of work to adapt them to a new mind set. I just hope that when TP is replaced, we are accepting of this
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 22:37:05 GMT
ST9, we don't just share the same postcode mate. Today was simply tactical suicide. Hello fellow Moorlander, you a cynical old moaning bar-steward as well  , agree with your take on today's surrender, if March4 is correct then I fear for our club, love been where we are but I feel that no one man no matter what his achievements is bigger than the club, that performance and team selection is not acceptable no matter what the agenda. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 19, 2013 22:37:49 GMT
ST9, we don't just share the same postcode mate. Today was simply tactical suicide. But why Bunny? TP is normally so conservative, especially away from home. Hidden injuries? resting players? I just can't fathom it out. I thought we were very conservative again in fact we hardly had a shot. To me it was the same away shite but a different venue. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 19, 2013 22:38:39 GMT
Moorlander? Yikes!
*counts fingers*
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Post by skeels606 on Jan 19, 2013 22:38:53 GMT
Like March, I am old (52) -but Pulis offers absolutely nothing that makes Football an event, something to lift you out of the everyday mundane drudgery of work and gets you begging for more. Do not be to quick to assume that we are safe at this juncture, Hull, Blackpool and Reading all did nosedives from a position similair to ours. If we do not finish higher than last year, with more points and more goals, then come MAy, send him packing. 52 ain't old - 86 is old. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jan 19, 2013 22:39:27 GMT
Any manager who comes here to replace TP, even in the future, inherits this squad and that is going to take a significant amount of work to adapt them to a new mind set. I just hope that when TP is replaced, we are accepting of this True - but they are, in the main, better footballer players than we are seeing right now |
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Post by bassmaster on Jan 19, 2013 22:39:29 GMT
Out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 22:41:53 GMT
It's not just as simple as a yes or no answer though. Unless Coates would be prepared to give a new manager at least 80 million to assemble a squad they could work with then it would be a waste of time getting rid of Pulis. I've thought about it a few times and I can't think of a manager that would be prepared to come to Stoke who could make a significant difference. H You are bang on the money with your assessment, frightening as it is £100 million spent to suit or not suit one mans style of play, it would have to be a gradual change someone in the mould of big SAM may be a stepping stone in the right direction if not stick with what we have for the time being. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 22:42:35 GMT
survival in this division has to be the priority
but in my opinion i think there are a lot of managers out there who, with the same backing as pulis, could achieve stability/survival in this division AND get us trying to score goals away from home.
this really is a shit division in recent years, i don't think it has been a tough job since the second season to be honest. there are so many crap teams, or clubs that are not run properly.
i'd swap pulis for someone else without a second thought.
he's done a good job overall but how long does he need to be here for? its been long enough. and i'm tired of seeing the same mistakes being made. a change would be good for everyone
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Post by phil51 on Jan 19, 2013 22:43:42 GMT
IN
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 22:45:14 GMT
Any manager who comes here to replace TP, even in the future, inherits this squad and that is going to take a significant amount of work to adapt them to a new mind set. I just hope that when TP is replaced, we are accepting of this Call me stupid, but I actually think the squad is now in place for another manager to do a decent job with. It's not the players who are the problem. It's the way they're used. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 22:47:10 GMT
Moorlander? Yikes! *counts fingers* Ten on each hand is that right have you developed the hairy back and webbed feet yet ?, btw nice tribute to your dad very touching and heartfelt , lost my mum seven years ago massive influence for me she still is and always will be. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 19, 2013 22:47:12 GMT
the only reason for IN, is the unknown. In the meantime, we will be bored sily in 80% of games and the league table will look the same.
Is that REALLY what football is about?
AMF
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Post by digger on Jan 19, 2013 22:48:25 GMT
IN
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 22:48:35 GMT
Any manager who comes here to replace TP, even in the future, inherits this squad and that is going to take a significant amount of work to adapt them to a new mind set. I just hope that when TP is replaced, we are accepting of this Call me stupid, but I actually think the squad is now in place for another manager to do a decent job with. It's not the players who are the problem. It's the way they're used. i think i would piss all over pulis as a manager at the moment. i'd just play jones and walters up front. like we did against liverpool and not fuck about with that unless absolutely necessary. its not rocket science is it? just football management. but this thick twat keeps ignoring what happens in front of him on the pitch and playing his little games. he's either fucking stupid or like march suggests, he throws games deliberately. it had better be the former |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Jan 19, 2013 22:49:33 GMT
Moorlander? Yikes! *counts fingers* Ten on each hand is that right have you developed the hairy back and webbed feet yet ?, btw nice tribute to your dad very touching and heartfelt , lost my mum seven years ago massive influence for me she still is and always will be. you have described the wife to a tee. Oh, and many thanks for the kind words. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 22:56:37 GMT
Ten on each hand is that right have you developed the hairy back and webbed feet yet ?, btw nice tribute to your dad very touching and heartfelt , lost my mum seven years ago massive influence for me she still is and always will be. you have described the wife to a tee. Oh, and many thanks for the kind words. No problem gone but never forgotten  , I belive that they sell gloves in the Leek area that fit Mooorlander type hands, the hairy back can be an advantage on a woman on the cold Moorland nights, I snuggle into the wife's excess back hair this time of year like sleeping with a yak. |
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Post by gerihatrick on Jan 19, 2013 23:01:54 GMT
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Post by BristolMick on Jan 19, 2013 23:03:31 GMT
It's not just as simple as a yes or no answer though. Unless Coates would be prepared to give a new manager at least 80 million to assemble a squad they could work with then it would be a waste of time getting rid of Pulis. I've thought about it a few times and I can't think of a manager that would be prepared to come to Stoke who could make a significant difference. H The significant difference that so many of us want H is the style of play, the attitude that we are going out to win every game, something we can all get excited about and look forward to watching each week. I dont think it would be difficult to find a manager who could make a significant difference on these scores and still deliver mid table respectability and the odd cup run or flirt with europe. BM |
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 23:04:37 GMT
Moorlander? Yikes! *counts fingers* Ten on each hand is that right have you developed the hairy back and webbed feet yet ?, btw nice tribute to your dad very touching and heartfelt , lost my mum seven years ago massive influence for me she still is and always will be. I've heard there be cannibals in your part of the world!! |
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Post by Miles Offside on Jan 19, 2013 23:07:38 GMT
It's not just as simple as a yes or no answer though. Unless Coates would be prepared to give a new manager at least 80 million to assemble a squad they could work with then it would be a waste of time getting rid of Pulis. I've thought about it a few times and I can't think of a manager that would be prepared to come to Stoke who could make a significant difference. H Yep, that's a good summary. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jan 19, 2013 23:11:49 GMT
No. He's earned time I just wish we could be positive away.
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Post by BristolMick on Jan 19, 2013 23:20:12 GMT
It's not just as simple as a yes or no answer though. Unless Coates would be prepared to give a new manager at least 80 million to assemble a squad they could work with then it would be a waste of time getting rid of Pulis. I've thought about it a few times and I can't think of a manager that would be prepared to come to Stoke who could make a significant difference. H Yep, that's a good summary. Its not going to be THAT difficult for a new manager to make a big difference. We have some quality players. The manager would just need to pick the best 11 consistently and play them in their correct positions and instuct them to go for it from the off . That would be a lot more enjoyable to watch and plenty good enough to keep us in this division and then we can evolve from there. BM |
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 23:27:59 GMT
Yep, that's a good summary. Its not going to be THAT difficult for a new manager to make a big difference. We have some quality players. The manager would just need to pick the best 11 consistently and play them in their correct positions and instuct them to go for it from the off . That would be a lot more enjoyable to watch and plenty good enough to keep us in this division and then we can evolve from there. BM You mean like happened at Bolton and Blackburn? |
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Post by BristolMick on Jan 19, 2013 23:35:52 GMT
Its not going to be THAT difficult for a new manager to make a big difference. We have some quality players. The manager would just need to pick the best 11 consistently and play them in their correct positions and instuct them to go for it from the off . That would be a lot more enjoyable to watch and plenty good enough to keep us in this division and then we can evolve from there. BM You mean like happened at Bolton and Blackburn? What? Do you know that is exactly what happened at those two clubs? I dont follow either but judging by the fans reaction to the way Steve Keen managed Blackburn I would say you are way off beam. I just cannot understand the doom mongers whose main reason for hanging on to Pulis seems to based upon the 2+2=5 logic that if Pulis leaves we will be back in the wilderness for 23 years again. Codswallop. Not whilst Peter Coates is at the helm we wont! BM |
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 23:50:35 GMT
You mean like happened at Bolton and Blackburn? What? Do you know that is exactly what happened at those two clubs? I dont follow either but judging by the fans reaction to the way Steve Keen managed Blackburn I would say you are way off beam. I just cannot understand the doom mongers whose main reason for hanging on to Pulis seems to based upon the 2+2=5 logic that if Pulis leaves we will be back in the wilderness for 23 years again. Codswallop. Not whilst Peter Coates is at the helm we wont! BM And you want to take the risk. Keep TP for 10 years and you get 10 years in the Prem. Swap him and you risk being back in the 3rd Division in 3 years. Why would we take such a risk - we can't get much higher in the Prem ever and TP has shown he can deliver good cup runs. |
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, agree with your take on today's surrender, if March4 is correct then I fear for our club, love been where we are but I feel that no one man no matter what his achievements is bigger than the club, that performance and team selection is not acceptable no matter what the agenda.
, I belive that they sell gloves in the Leek area that fit Mooorlander type hands, the hairy back can be an advantage on a woman on the cold Moorland nights, I snuggle into the wife's excess back hair this time of year like sleeping with a yak.
