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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 21:03:43 GMT
Oh dear! YOU are too lazy to read what has been written at length on a number of threads and then have the gall to complain that another poster won't start the whole discussion over again. Priceless. more patronising comments.............."YOU" have to be an ex-teacher surely!! He is trying to justify that shower of shite today as a ploy by Pulis basically throwing the match to get more funds from Coates , grasping at straws springs to mind desperate for straws to grab me thinks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif)
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Jan 19, 2013 21:03:56 GMT
Pulis out----NO.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 21:05:16 GMT
I think he should go at the end of the season. He's made me not want to watch my football team through sheer boredom and frustration, that for me is enough. I can understand parking the bus in every away game you're first promoted, but to do it consistently year upon year takes the piss. What's the point of playing if we aren't going to attempt to win? Yeah it's great being in the Premier League but I don't want to be here if it means that we have to endure negative, parking the bus, damage limitation, 'bonus game' football for at least 19 games of every season. We need a change. This is the post that needs pinning to the top of the board March! Sums up mine and thousands of other Stokies feelings perfectly.
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Post by rockhead163 on Jan 19, 2013 21:06:04 GMT
If we sell a striker (KJ) and no replacement is brought in and we are left with PC and CA running the same dire crap all season then it's a yes from me. However if a little luck comes our way PC teeth get dislodged again then maybe a good run will come to save his bacon.
I am on a fine line on deciding to renew the families season tickets as we are growing increasingly bored with seeing the team held back with negative management.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 19, 2013 21:08:06 GMT
more patronising comments.............."YOU" have to be an ex-teacher surely!! He is trying to justify that shower of shite today as a ploy by Pulis basically throwing the match to get more funds from Coates , grasping at straws springs to mind desperate for straws to grab me thinks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) Thanks for the heads-up. If that's March's idea I would say that throwing a match is not Pulis's style ( he might be stubborn but he doesn't appear to be devious ) however if it was he definitely needs to go ( as I said originally, March before you got all pedantic). cheers mate.
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:09:51 GMT
more patronising comments.............."YOU" have to be an ex-teacher surely!! He is trying to justify that shower of shite today as a ploy by Pulis basically throwing the match to get more funds from Coates , grasping at straws springs to mind desperate for straws to grab me thinks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) Perhaps you should also make some effort to read the thread about this issue in full because both sides of the argument have agreed that I have a valid point. It used to be a common courtesy on this message board that posters had the courtesy to read about the subject in question before making their childish comments.
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Post by jonnyd on Jan 19, 2013 21:11:04 GMT
As normal, the thread turns into a keyboard war of words. Having read the last 5 to 6 posts I forget what the actual topic was
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Post by geoffscott on Jan 19, 2013 21:11:20 GMT
Yes please!
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Post by shipshape on Jan 19, 2013 21:15:10 GMT
Thanks ST9. If March's theory is true then definitely YES.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 19, 2013 21:16:08 GMT
He is trying to justify that shower of shite today as a ploy by Pulis basically throwing the match to get more funds from Coates , grasping at straws springs to mind desperate for straws to grab me thinks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) Perhaps you should also make some effort to read the thread about this issue in full because both sides of the argument have agreed that I have a valid point. It used to be a common courtesy on this message board that posters had the courtesy to read about the subject in question before making their childish comments. Well of course their comments are childish, because you don't agree with them and your always right, it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2013 21:18:59 GMT
He is trying to justify that shower of shite today as a ploy by Pulis basically throwing the match to get more funds from Coates , grasping at straws springs to mind desperate for straws to grab me thinks. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) Perhaps you should also make some effort to read the thread about this issue in full because both sides of the argument have agreed that I have a valid point. It used to be a common courtesy on this message board that posters had the courtesy to read about the subject in question before making their childish comments. Sorry all knowing one ::)I did not realise that you made the rules on posting on this message board, in all honesty if Pulis has the capacity to throw football matches in order to influence a chairmans spending he should go now because that is basically fraud, I would not bet that what you are implying is the case ! I would hope that Pulis wouldn't because that way monsters lie.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 19, 2013 21:24:30 GMT
What point was being made, do you think? I'd also say that the day that where any manager makes a point by losing a match should surely bring into question his tenure at the club. Perhaps you would like to look back several pages and at other threads where that very point has been discussed at length. You really are a disgrace if you think the manager is ok to lose a game to prove a point. What's your response to a supporter who hopes his team loses if it meant getting rid of the manager?
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:26:38 GMT
Perhaps you should also make some effort to read the thread about this issue in full because both sides of the argument have agreed that I have a valid point. It used to be a common courtesy on this message board that posters had the courtesy to read about the subject in question before making their childish comments. Sorry all knowing one ::)I did not realise that you made the rules on posting on this message board, in all honesty if Pulis has the capacity to throw football matches in order to influence a chairmans spending he should go now because that is basically fraud, I would not bet that what you are implying is the case ! I would hope that Pulis wouldn't because that way monsters lie. Sorry we are arguing here - that was never my intention. Please accept my apology. The point is all about why did TP play Crouch and Adam today and them mess with the wingers once he had used his subs. The suggested answer is that he was proving to the club's owners that we will be a shambles if KJ leaves and we don't bring in a winger. I don't think he deliberately made us lose the game, but his bonkers decisions made the result inevitable. And to add strength to the case, TP has plenty of past form for doing this sort of a thing.
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Post by stayingupforbigbazza on Jan 19, 2013 21:27:00 GMT
oh good its the same old monthly thread no no and thrice no younger viewers look up what happened after we sacked Waddo in the 70's after "supporter unrest" ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/7TTgAtwUz19SBi0cvrCX.gif)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 19, 2013 21:30:34 GMT
Sorry all knowing one ::)I did not realise that you made the rules on posting on this message board, in all honesty if Pulis has the capacity to throw football matches in order to influence a chairmans spending he should go now because that is basically fraud, I would not bet that what you are implying is the case ! I would hope that Pulis wouldn't because that way monsters lie. Sorry we are arguing here - that was never my intention. Please accept my apology. The point is all about why did TP play Crouch and Adam today and them mess with the wingers once he had used his subs. The suggested answer is that he was proving to the club's owners that we will be a shambles if KJ leaves and we don't bring in a winger. I don't think he deliberately made us lose the game, but his bonkers decisions made the result inevitable. And to add strength to the case, TP has plenty of past form for doing this sort of a thing. I must have missed something here, mate. As far as I know Tone has total autonomy on transfers with regards to who comes and who goes. If he wanted Kenwyne to stay, he'd stay. Well that's my take on it anyway.
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:30:41 GMT
Perhaps you would like to look back several pages and at other threads where that very point has been discussed at length. You really are a disgrace if you think the manager is ok to lose a game to prove a point. What's your response to a supporter who hopes his team loses if it meant getting rid of the manager? I think his point was showing we will be a shambles if KJ goes and if we don't sign a winger. TP is usually ultra conservative, so he is up to something when he names Adam and Crouch to begin the game and then swaps his wingers once the subs come on. Either TP is inept (and managers with his track record are not inept) or he is up to something. You might suggest the former, but he has plenty of form for the latter.
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:33:14 GMT
Sorry we are arguing here - that was never my intention. Please accept my apology. The point is all about why did TP play Crouch and Adam today and them mess with the wingers once he had used his subs. The suggested answer is that he was proving to the club's owners that we will be a shambles if KJ leaves and we don't bring in a winger. I don't think he deliberately made us lose the game, but his bonkers decisions made the result inevitable. And to add strength to the case, TP has plenty of past form for doing this sort of a thing. I must have missed something here, mate. As far as I know Tone has total autonomy on transfers with regards to who comes and who goes. If he wanted Kenwyne to stay, he'd stay. Well that's my take on it anyway. Let's say he wants a winger, but he has been told to sell to raise the money. The only player attracting interest is KJ. Today he showed how we would be without KJ and he also showed how poor we are on the flanks. TP is a slippery customer who we have seen manipulate situations beforehand. He could be up to his old tricks again.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 19, 2013 21:35:39 GMT
I must have missed something here, mate. As far as I know Tone has total autonomy on transfers with regards to who comes and who goes. If he wanted Kenwyne to stay, he'd stay. Well that's my take on it anyway. Let's say he wants a winger, but he has been told to sell to raise the money. The only player attracting interest is KJ. Today he showed how we would be without KJ and he also showed how poor we are on the flanks. TP is a slippery customer who we have seen manipulate situations beforehand. He could be up to his old tricks again. That's fair enough but until Crouch was injured today's "front two" was his preferred choice.
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:37:07 GMT
Let's say he wants a winger, but he has been told to sell to raise the money. The only player attracting interest is KJ. Today he showed how we would be without KJ and he also showed how poor we are on the flanks. TP is a slippery customer who we have seen manipulate situations beforehand. He could be up to his old tricks again. That's fair enough but until Crouch was injured today's "front two" was his preferred choice. Good point, which might have been when he made it known KJ could go. TP could be rapidly trying to retract that decision. Who knows, this is TP, one of the slipperiest characters around.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 19, 2013 21:38:16 GMT
Sorry all knowing one ::)I did not realise that you made the rules on posting on this message board, in all honesty if Pulis has the capacity to throw football matches in order to influence a chairmans spending he should go now because that is basically fraud, I would not bet that what you are implying is the case ! I would hope that Pulis wouldn't because that way monsters lie. Sorry we are arguing here - that was never my intention. Please accept my apology. The point is all about why did TP play Crouch and Adam today and them mess with the wingers once he had used his subs. The suggested answer is that he was proving to the club's owners that we will be a shambles if KJ leaves and we don't bring in a winger. I don't think he deliberately made us lose the game, but his bonkers decisions made the result inevitable. And to add strength to the case, TP has plenty of past form for doing this sort of a thing. Okay I accept your apology. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) To get back to the point you've made, then, surely it was clear to TP last summer at the very latest ( and it should have been well before that given Matty's injury issues and Pennants attitude ), that we needed at least one decent winger ( and I don't mean Kightly ), afterall it was clear to myself and many others on here. Instead TP bought loads of central midfielders. That is not good transfer management as far as I am concerned, and the team has suffered detriment as a result.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jan 19, 2013 21:39:29 GMT
I must have missed something here, mate. As far as I know Tone has total autonomy on transfers with regards to who comes and who goes. If he wanted Kenwyne to stay, he'd stay. Well that's my take on it anyway. Let's say he wants a winger, but he has been told to sell to raise the money. The only player attracting interest is KJ. Today he showed how we would be without KJ and he also showed how poor we are on the flanks. TP is a slippery customer who we have seen manipulate situations beforehand. He could be up to his old tricks again. Doing anything, but going out fully to win a game, ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/84w9NwSsj6YY9VWeECaY.gif) for a club owned by a betting company is like looking in a petrol can with a match. You just don't do it.
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Post by welovepericard on Jan 19, 2013 21:39:58 GMT
for away games yes
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 19, 2013 21:42:08 GMT
That's fair enough but until Crouch was injured today's "front two" was his preferred choice. Good point, which might have been when he made it known KJ could go. TP could be rapidly trying to retract that decision. Who knows, this is TP, one of the slipperiest characters around. My view is that Tone still (bizarrely) believes that Adam and Crouch CAN work and has been told he will need to generate some funds himself for once this window. Clearly he doesn't want to sell N'Zonzi, Bego, Huth or Ryan so our only other saleable asset is KJ. It worries me that he is so blind to the total ineffectiveness of Adam and Crouch as a pairing.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jan 19, 2013 21:42:43 GMT
Don't see what could be gained by doing it in January, and based on the furore over Adkins' dismissal for doing a decent job.
No.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jan 19, 2013 21:43:09 GMT
Yes. So these threads can fuck right off. ;D
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:44:09 GMT
Sorry we are arguing here - that was never my intention. Please accept my apology. The point is all about why did TP play Crouch and Adam today and them mess with the wingers once he had used his subs. The suggested answer is that he was proving to the club's owners that we will be a shambles if KJ leaves and we don't bring in a winger. I don't think he deliberately made us lose the game, but his bonkers decisions made the result inevitable. And to add strength to the case, TP has plenty of past form for doing this sort of a thing. Okay I accept your apology. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) To get back to the point you've made, then, surely it was clear to TP last summer at the very latest ( and it should have been well before that given Matty's injury issues and Pennants attitude ), that we needed at least one decent winger ( and I don't mean Kightly ), afterall it was clear to myself and many others on here. Instead TP bought loads of central midfielders. That is not good transfer management as far as I am concerned, and the team has suffered detriment as a result. And thanks for declaring me the 'oracle' I might change my user name ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/0m0lbCuTEBzaRn6f8QaM.gif) We were crying out for a winger in the summer. Instead we brought in Adam and went for a cheaper option on the flanks (Kightly). Perhaps we couldn't get the player we wanted - who knows. However, it is biting us at the moment. I still think today was all about proving we are not effective without KJ and then showing how weak we are on the flanks. I do know Adam is a waste of a squad space and his transfer fee could have been better spent else where.
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:45:40 GMT
Good point, which might have been when he made it known KJ could go. TP could be rapidly trying to retract that decision. Who knows, this is TP, one of the slipperiest characters around. My view is that Tone still (bizarrely) believes that Adam and Crouch CAN work and has been told he will need to generate some funds himself for once this window. Clearly he doesn't want to sell N'Zonzi, Bego, Huth or Ryan so our only other saleable asset is KJ. It worries me that he is so blind to the total ineffectiveness of Adam and Crouch as a pairing. After today, even David Blunket's guide dog knows Crouch and Adam don't work together.
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Post by grimlord1 on Jan 19, 2013 21:46:20 GMT
No,and be careful what you fuckin wish for.....
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 19, 2013 21:47:01 GMT
My view is that Tone still (bizarrely) believes that Adam and Crouch CAN work and has been told he will need to generate some funds himself for once this window. Clearly he doesn't want to sell N'Zonzi, Bego, Huth or Ryan so our only other saleable asset is KJ. It worries me that he is so blind to the total ineffectiveness of Adam and Crouch as a pairing. After today, even David Blunket's guide dog knows Crouch and Adam don't work together. Better get Tone on a lead then!
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Post by march4 on Jan 19, 2013 21:49:30 GMT
After today, even David Blunket's guide dog knows Crouch and Adam don't work together. Better get Tone on a lead then! So long as Mr Blunkett doesn't want to do anything exciting. TP the guide dog would just sit by the front door working aaard stopping all visitors from getting in.
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