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Post by Stoke711 on Mar 17, 2012 17:43:24 GMT
the break forward from the cage cost us a goal as well don't forget. Diego left the cage, lost the ball on the edge of the box and they broke upfield and scored, totally against the run of play. We lose, Diego gets fined 2 weeks wages for going forward with the ball and then gets shipped out to Huddersfield. From what I remember Diego was fouled on the edge of the area, bit different from lost the ball. He also looked good against Besiktas before he had to go right back, then he was about as useful as Woodgate. He played a couple of tidy passes in Thun when he came on too & it was his ball through for Walters that got their keeper sent off.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 17, 2012 17:59:21 GMT
In all honesty I think that Pulis is in a much better position than anyone on this board to judge how good Diego is.
Pulis is the one that see's him on a daily basis Pulis is the one that see's him in training Pulis knows what is going on in his personal life Pulis is the one with countless years of experience in football Pulis is the one with top coaching qualifications
In my opinion I think it's safe to say his judgement will be more reliable than ours who have seen him play four (I think?) times!
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Post by worstgolfer on Mar 17, 2012 18:42:13 GMT
That'll teach him to try and get into the opposition penalty area away from home. Hope he learns from this [/quote Sniggers ....spot on ! ...But I have to ask why oh why ?? Everytime I've seen him play he's been brilliant ... hes not the new tuncay w ;D ;D
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Post by seddonstandviewer on Mar 17, 2012 18:43:39 GMT
Interesting that he has been sent to a club managed by Simon Grayson.
He was Blackpool manager when we sent Wilko and Dicko there.
They both came on leaps and bounds when they returned and were put in the first team.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 17, 2012 18:46:54 GMT
the break forward from the cage cost us a goal as well don't forget. Diego left the cage, lost the ball on the edge of the box and they broke upfield and scored, totally against the run of play. We lose, Diego gets fined 2 weeks wages for going forward with the ball and then gets shipped out to Huddersfield. From what I remember Diego was fouled on the edge of the area, bit different from lost the ball.He also looked good against Besiktas before he had to go right back, then he was about as useful as Woodgate. He played a couple of tidy passes in Thun when he came on too & it was his ball through for Walters that got their keeper sent off. And fouled when he would have been through for a one on one with the keeper to put us 1-0 up.
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Post by scfcrmagic on Mar 17, 2012 20:09:54 GMT
That'll teach him to try and get into the opposition penalty area away from home. Hope he learns from this [/quote Sniggers ....spot on ! ...But I have to ask why oh why ?? Everytime I've seen him play he's been brilliant ... Which is exactly why we are all baffled by this, TP sometimes needs a rocket up his arse. How on earth can salif be better in CM than arasmendi, a young possibly promising player who looks fantastic on the ball, and can pass it to a player in a red and white striped shirt from 5 yards away (Something most of our midfielders cant!) I know ...but believe me I've asked the question several times....to people who'd normally Have an oppinion or make a comment one way or the other...but I've had the oddest reaction to this question . ....more a look of " it's more than my jobs worth to answer that question " .....and then they scurry off alarmingly quickly...like startled rabbits !! Curious and curiouser ....
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 17, 2012 21:45:31 GMT
Clearly the sarcasm in my post didn't come across.
You don't need to convince me that he was fouled. I know that only too well. You might need to convince TP though that Diego leaving the cage, foul or no foul, didn't cost us the goal though.
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Post by lordb on Mar 17, 2012 21:51:43 GMT
Valencias sharp attacking play was the main 'cause' of the goal
Jones's piss - poor finishing is the main reason we didn't go in at h/t ahead
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Post by nott1 on Mar 18, 2012 11:45:03 GMT
Valencias sharp attacking play was the main 'cause' of the goal Jones's piss - poor finishing is the main reason we didn't go in at h/t ahead Exactly. Jones should be shipped out too!
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Post by scfcrmagic on Mar 18, 2012 11:52:15 GMT
That'll teach him to try and get into the opposition penalty area away from home. Hope he learns from this [/quote Sniggers ....spot on ! ...But I have to ask why oh why ?? Everytime I've seen him play he's been brilliant ... hes not the new tuncay w ;D ;D Cheeky ....no I just appreciate his footy skillage ;D ;D ;D nowt wrong with that .... ;D
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 18, 2012 13:30:19 GMT
I don't understand this farming out of talent. I've seen him play and I don't think that he has potential, I think he IS good enough now. Surely if TP does not have the confidence to play him now, then he should be keeping him for the last 4 or 5 games of the season, when we are certain to stay up and give him his experience then. This young man is 24, if he was at Everton he'd have played plenty of first team football by now. We've lost Marshall, Soares has been wasted, Tonge was never used properly. I'm certain we will see a glut of talent disappearing unless they are given the confidence to believe that they have a future at Stoke. My contribution saddens me as this is the first time I have openly criticised the club's policies.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Mar 18, 2012 14:37:23 GMT
I don't know about Tonge not being used properly, unless you count not loaning him to Barnsley quickly enough. Talking of which, Arismendi made a great start at Barnsley; I remember a Barnsley fan coming on here and saying they were comparing him to Viera. By the end of the loan period he was in the reserves.
Loaning them out did Shotton and Wilko plenty of good. As for whether the rest of the bunch were ever up to it in the first place, who knows....you can't go back and re-write history. I hope the post further up's right and Grayson can get him to realise his potential.
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Post by kjpt140v on Mar 18, 2012 15:09:35 GMT
Shotton and Wilko were much yuounger, Aris should be at a stage where he is getting to play on a rtegular basis. Have a look at Man U today, if you don't give it a go, you get nothing.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 19, 2012 11:46:15 GMT
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 19, 2012 13:22:07 GMT
The kid needs to start putting in some big performances. If he can't play well at a promotion chasing side in League 1 then he has no chance of being a Premiership player
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Post by jstoke7 on Mar 19, 2012 13:30:15 GMT
The kid needs to start putting in some big performances. If he can't play well at a promotion chasing side in League 1 then he has no chance of being a Premiership player To be honest mate I have sympathy for the guy. He came here as a Uruguayan international and one of the most up and coming youngsters in Uruguay and he has been shipped out to Championship and League One clubs? Must do wonders for confidence. Oh I forgot, foreign players need at least 3-4 years to settle in...
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 19, 2012 13:36:26 GMT
The kid needs to start putting in some big performances. If he can't play well at a promotion chasing side in League 1 then he has no chance of being a Premiership player To be honest mate I have sympathy for the guy. He came here as a Uruguayan international and one of the most up and coming youngsters in Uruguay and he has been shipped out to Championship and League One clubs? Must do wonders for confidence. Oh I forgot, foreign players need at least 3-4 years to settle in... The problem is Diego hasn't done anything of note when he's been out on loan. As another post mentioned, he ended up in Barnsley's reserves! He obviously has talent but if he isn't performing consistently in the lower divisions then how can he expect to force his way into a Premier League side?
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