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Post by Chris1863 on Sept 25, 2011 11:28:59 GMT
I think your telling porkies,inno the stewards are wankers but they wouldnt chuck you out for asking someone to sit down.FACT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Sept 25, 2011 11:38:53 GMT
The processes available to you are as follows. If you feel, on reflection, that the action of the stewards in ejecting you was inappropriate and not merited by your behaviour, you should complain in writing to the Club in the first instance, setting out your view of the incident as it developed. Send it to John Alcock, the safety officer, and ask for a face to face meeting. You should be completely honest about what happened and your behaviour, because if you say things which turn out not to be true or omit relevant information, it will subsequently damage your credibility. In this context bear in mind that on a public forum you have admitted using foul language ( which is against ground regulations) and that you had "had a few beers" ( what was the intended relevance of that observation ?) If you remain dissatisfied by the response of the Club you can complain to the Premier League who will adjudicate on it. If you remain dissatisfied with their response you can complain to the Independent Football Ombudsman www.theifo.co.uk I think there is little point in posters debating the issue at length on this thread, because none of us saw the incident. It needs proper investigation which should happen if a complaint is made. Experience with the FSF has taught me that stewards can react in a heavy-handed and inappropriate way on occasions, and we often assist supporters with such complaints. However, experience has also taught me that there is often more than one side to a story. It is highly unusual for someone at a game with children to be ejected for asking someone to sit down ( when standing up is against ground regulations). It is far more common for supporters who are persistently standing up to be ejected. For this reason, I would not personally jump to any conclusions without knowing the full picture for how the incident developed.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 25, 2011 11:47:52 GMT
Nope not really I asked her to sit the fuck down Is that the sort of language you normally use to a woman? If so you should have been banned for life. In front of your kids, too. What an example you set!
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Sept 25, 2011 12:32:57 GMT
Nope not really I asked her to sit the fuck down Is that the sort of language you normally use to a woman? If so you should have been banned for life. In front of your kids, too. What an example you set! There you have it folks. Tree hugging at it's finest!
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 25, 2011 12:40:02 GMT
Is that the sort of language you normally use to a woman? If so you should have been banned for life. In front of your kids, too. What an example you set! There you have it folks. Tree hugging at it's finest! So you'd be alright with him telling your mum/wife/sister to "sit the fuck down" then
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Post by shiftyfifty on Sept 25, 2011 12:43:31 GMT
Can't believe the amount of self-righteous tossers there are on here, I don't swear in day to day life, and especially not in front of my kids, but get me at the match and it's a different matter. As for calling her a jonny-cum-lately bint, I'm sure most of you would have other names for her in similar circumstances.
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Post by armitagestokie on Sept 25, 2011 13:24:45 GMT
Try injurelawyers4u
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 25, 2011 13:36:46 GMT
Follow Malcom's advice on this one mate. If there are witnesses to the incident on here maybe they could back you up.
If you are giving us the whole story you have my greatest sympathy and you should do something about it even if you decide to sever all ties with SCFC.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2011 13:38:31 GMT
I have a policy of not swearing, getting pissed or abusing people in front of my kids. It seems to work quite well.
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Post by jammy888 on Sept 25, 2011 13:41:55 GMT
Mate, I work at stoke and the stewards think they are above everyone. Take it on the chin and don't moan on here. We can't do anything. Phone up or go down to the club and tell them you wan't the steward held responsible if you truly shouldn't have been ejected but I suspect you didn't ask her nicely! Good luck anyway!
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Post by Anto1962 on Sept 25, 2011 13:48:14 GMT
4quit,theirs a great saying about not cutting your nose off to spite your face,don't stop going because of this incident.
If all the facts are as you have stated them go to the club and put your case to them.They may hold the line that bad language is an offence in the crowd but,If they want to hold to that they would be throwing 20 odd thousand out every week.
I used to sit in the family stand with my son and though I never swore while I was in there I was amazed at how many children with adults(8 and upwards) threw "v" signs and sang songs using bad language at the away end and yet were never warned or thrown out by stewards.
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Post by mistersausage on Sept 25, 2011 13:54:33 GMT
Can I have the season tickets for me and my kids ;D
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 25, 2011 13:59:02 GMT
I don't think you need to be self righteous to believe that using abusive language in front of your kids is unacceptable. Its reassuring to me that the Stewards are following the rules that are clearly set out by the club. Its just stunning to me that you are whinging about it on here without feeling any sense of embarrassment or shame.
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Post by thegreedyzebra on Sept 25, 2011 16:27:15 GMT
not been funny yh it aint stoke city's fault its the stewards thts the prob plus y not come another match if you want ill pay for you go watch the shit at vale every week atention seeker of the highest order Well you're right about not being funny nobhead.
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Post by potterglen on Sept 25, 2011 16:37:09 GMT
Saw the incident...tell you what, she was a good looking girl. Count yourself lucky, i have a couple in front of me who keep snogging...it's downright stomach-churning. Did you want to fucke her? If you did then the stewards are probably queueing up for a poke. So 4quit ............ It's a no brainer. You're fucked end of By the way .... How did you know she was a 'Johnny come lately'? Didn't she have her name tag on her seat a' la plat club membership? Excelled yourself again I see Sausage.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Sept 25, 2011 17:27:38 GMT
Some of you are going to be very disapointed parents if you believe that 1 your kids don't hear swearing and 2 they don't do it themselves.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 25, 2011 17:41:11 GMT
I have a policy of not swearing, getting pissed or abusing people in front of my kids. It seems to work quite well. ;D Case closed I think........
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Sept 25, 2011 18:45:41 GMT
Good looking damn right she was and to be honest a major player in the fact that we got kicked out. What really pisses me off is she didn't have a ticket forthe seat in front of me, and then once kicked out she turned up with her boyfriend and sat in my fucking seat. Back bone? I have one of them thanks and yes I will be complaining like fuck but don't e pect me to ever love this club again, my children were witness to the shit end of the stick today. I would rather they found something worthwhile to do at the weekend. Whilst I can understand where you are coming from dont you think you have overreacted here? It is the stewards that are to blame not the club. Make your feelings known to the club and complain about the stewards. However, to blame the whole of Stoke City is quite frankly ridiculous and I think you need to gain some perspective. SGS
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Post by shiftyfifty on Sept 25, 2011 23:18:18 GMT
I have a policy of not swearing, getting pissed or abusing people in front of my kids. It seems to work quite well. ;D Case closed I think........ There goes my Parent of the Year award.
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Post by johnnypotter on Sept 25, 2011 23:55:24 GMT
Just a few points to think about mate. 1, Most of the stewards at Stoke City are tossers who think they are somebody because they are given an orange coat to wear. 2, Rise above their ineptitude and lack of intelligence to deal with situations properly. 3, Malcolm is correct, arrange a face to face meeting with John Alcock who is a decent bloke. 4, Also, put your experience in writing to the club officials. 5, You have witnesses who saw what happened, why not try to contact them to ask if they speak on your behalf to those at the club who have the power to do something about it. 6,The club can find out which stewards were on duty in that part of the stadium. 7, The stewards need to be made accountable for their actions, by doing the right thing mate with a clear head, you can put the pressure back onto the stewards to do some explaining. 8, If it can be found that the stewards are out of their depth dealing with normal people then you can help the process to get them reprimanded or even dismissed. Their job is supposed to be to deal with problems, not to cause them, stress this to Mr Alcock. 9, Finally, never ever, no matter how angry you get, let some jumped up little jobsworths ruin your love for Stoke City. Stoke City should be your life, the stewards are simply not important enough to leave your club. p.s i know i only a few points but what the hell, Stoke City Football Club is too important mate.
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Post by shep207 on Sept 26, 2011 0:15:53 GMT
I was going to say that being kicked out 3 times may be an indicator that you act like a nob, but then I read the rest of your post and realised it didn't really need pointing out as it's blatantly obvious.. Fair comment that, i'll give you that one. Good, enjoy your ban.
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Post by shep207 on Sept 26, 2011 1:00:50 GMT
Also i don't think i'll loose any sleep because i've bin banned from the oatcake - full of cranks anyway. YSC YSC YSC Lose*
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Sept 26, 2011 6:44:38 GMT
Also i don't think i'll loose any sleep because i've bin banned from the oatcake - full of cranks anyway. YSC YSC YSC Bye bye........ loser!!
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Post by mhbsurf on Sept 26, 2011 7:20:20 GMT
Nice one 4quit, glad you came to your senses, you won't regret it i,m sure. Keep the faith...
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 26, 2011 8:09:09 GMT
4quit...Were you in the South Stand? If so, you didn't accidentally catch the said girl in the face a couple of times did you in your excitement during the early throws of the game? When she told you about it, instead of apologising to her, which would have been very easy, you didn't then say "fuck off you slag"? Maybe this was a different incident! EDIT - Just read the last couple of pages and you were indeed sitting at the back of the South Stand towards the scoreboard corner. It really is a small world isn't it??? As far as I'm aware, the girl was mistakenly sat in the wrong seat and she was attending with a friend because her boyfriend was away on a stag do. I believe she was one row in front of where she should have been but in the seat directly in front. On the basis that the argument wasn't about who was sat where, this part of the discussion is completely irrelevant.
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Post by Billy the kid on Sept 26, 2011 8:18:24 GMT
No Dave I did appologise
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Post by chinesedave on Sept 26, 2011 8:39:01 GMT
I have a policy of not swearing, getting pissed or abusing people in front of my kids. It seems to work quite well. Love it...
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Post by albanianstokie on Sept 26, 2011 9:30:40 GMT
Difficult, if you did you use foul language in a family area, you do run the risk, but really I think a stern warning would have been appropriate at that point. Also the woman should have been spoken to about her actions also. I would complain.
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Post by ladyinred on Sept 26, 2011 9:46:20 GMT
The plot thickens.
So you actually accidently made physical conatact with this woman and swore at her.
Sounds like it was a woman who is unaware of football ettiquette (attending because someone else can't) and you have made her feel intimidated.
Yes, standing in front of you is wrong, obviuosly, but to accidently make contact with her and swear at her is quite frankly not on.
You must've had a fair few drinks mate to be that out of control that you 'accidently made contact' with the woman in front of you. It's not as if we scored in those 12 minutes so it wasn't due to a mental (when there are no rules!).
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Post by marra315 on Sept 26, 2011 9:49:16 GMT
i presume more was said than actually stated in the op , they usually issue a warning first , there were several incidents by me on saturday including the head steward ,all we warned first , if you wernt then yes you have case to complain as for the folk on the high horses bitching about behavior and swearing ,i also take children to the match , but to think its wrong to swear in front of them is rubbish , its a football match not a school playground ! they know its swearing they also know its wrong to do so . i would try to avoid conflict in front of them but if i needed to i would , i ended up having a rant at a guy on saturday and yes it was in front of my kids and i did swear . shoot me know !
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