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Post by stonetezza on Feb 23, 2004 14:09:15 GMT
After only coming on for a few minutes on Saturday it seemed to me that old Clint was still a mile off fitness.
Don't think he'll make much of a contribution before Easter.
In which case unless TP comes up with a loan signing it looks like we've got Willo and Thommo for a while.
Anybody see it much different
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 23, 2004 14:12:58 GMT
Not really, then we have to ask the question is Clint Hill good enough? I hope he is, but we haven't seen enough of him to decide as yet.
Williams isn't good enough to be honest and Thomas is a superb defender with someone like Taggart alongside him (a leader basically).
Jon
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Post by romfordstokie on Feb 23, 2004 14:16:14 GMT
So the choice is a cripple in Hill or, well, a cripple in Williams. Add to this Crazy inconsistent Calamity Wayne and unless he does get someone in I can’t see another clean sheet all year.
Unless
Wilson right back and try Super Jonny Halls in the middle.
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Post by stonetezza on Feb 23, 2004 14:20:59 GMT
That would be my solution if TP can't bring anyone in RomfordStokie
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 23, 2004 14:22:36 GMT
Romford, Hallsy, in my opinion, is a better right back. However, he's a better centre back than Williams.
Wilson, we don't really know too much about as yet. Hopefully next season TP'll play him a bit more, or maybe this season if he gets a chance?
With Taggart we looks oh so much stronger!
De Goey Halls Taggart Thomas Clarke Hoekstra Russell Eustace Commons Gifton Ade
Take Taggart out and we're stuggling-like Man.Utd are without Ferdinand! We've got a talented team but need more leaders like Eustace and Taggart!
Jon
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Post by stonetezza on Feb 23, 2004 14:29:44 GMT
I think that if we are to progress next season we've got to hit the start of the season up and running. Therefore I think we need to find out before the end of this season if
a Is Wilson good enough b Is Hill going to give us 30 odd games a season c Is John Halls a better CB or FB d If he does play CB are we going to be any better organised etc
Therefore in the graet wide scheme of things there is still a lot to play for this season
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 23, 2004 14:31:15 GMT
I could predict for you Tezza:
a Is Wilson good enough b Is Hill going to give us 30 odd games a season c Is John Halls a better CB or FB d If he does play CB are we going to be any better organised etc
A: Yes B: No C: Full Back D: No, because he isn't a talker!
Jon
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Post by Vodkab1ock on Feb 23, 2004 14:53:39 GMT
not sure how you can say hill can't manage 30 games a season he was superb for oldham before he got injured and wasn't it oldham bringing him back to soon who fucked us up this season? i think next season hill will be a revelation verses sheffu td at home hill and thomo looked the bollocks and i think they are the future i really do
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 23, 2004 15:16:15 GMT
Hope your right cdscfc!
Jon
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Post by wardrobe monster on Feb 23, 2004 15:43:49 GMT
Lets not get onto Hill already, the guys not fully fit...it was rushing him back too soon that ruined his season. Ive already said that Hill should only start on the bench from now til the end of the season to FULLY recover.
The question of the CB position to me would be answered by bringing back Owen from Oldham. Alongside Thomas and leave Halls to play FB where he should be(square pegs/round holes etc).
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 23, 2004 15:46:29 GMT
wardrobe monster
Im not getting onto him, just stated that it is to hard to tell whether he is going to be good enough. We simply haven't seen enough of him! I hope he is brilliant for us and plays 50 games a season! From the evidence of this season though, he does have Hoekstra traits about him!
Jon
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Post by wardrobe monster on Feb 23, 2004 15:55:00 GMT
SS - sorry mate wasnt a statement aimed directly at you, more just a worrying trend generally to question his ability or overall fitness. He hasnt had a chance yet, but his record of fitness at oldham wasnt a problem and once fully fit it shouldnt be for us either.
Next year I firmly believe he will become a Taggert like figurehead for the team. I think hes got real quality.
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Post by SuperStokie on Feb 23, 2004 15:56:42 GMT
Hope your right mate! He certainly looks like a centre half and didn't play badly at all in the games he has been involved in.
Jurys still out and he deserves a chance!
Jon
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2004 17:26:49 GMT
Hill was a regular for Tranmere before going to Oldham for just the one season. Seems all these recent injuries have stemmed from Dowie bringing him back into the side for their play offs far too soon after his broken leg against Palace.
Davef made a good point about Cranson / Hill both been similar cases after signing. Looks like we'll be waiting till next year before we can see the very best of Clint on a consistant basis, in the meantime we need that Taggart / Shtaniuk / Elliot / whoever in that defence alongside Thomas.
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Post by manchestermalc on Feb 23, 2004 20:47:18 GMT
My Arsenal mates say that Wenger regarded Halls as best in midfield, and looking at his skills, I'm not surprised. I would like to see him played there, but as ever, we haven't got a right back if he's not going to play Wilson, for whatever reason. In fact, we haven't had a proper right back since Hanson, and yet we have a superfluity of left-sided players - arguably four good players all competeing for the left side midfield slot - Commons, Hookey, Clarkey and Lewis Neal. Odd.
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