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Post by PMac on Apr 1, 2008 0:03:09 GMT
The SOOO Love to Hate us!!
I went onto SkySports.com to have a read about Stoke City.
What did I find?
A big photo of a Bristol Player with them spouting off about Bristol going top and Stoke slipping to second....
Did I request info on Bristol? No.
The TOP STORY shows the main picture of Brian Laws gob with a headline "Laws Takes The Point" and it's all about f**kin Sheffield wednesdays Manager and his thoughts on the game?
Did I request info on Sheff Wed? No.
I don't think Milwall are ignored as much as us....
Sky / All Media - you really are like my Arse!
I really do hope we get promoted so we can see them all squirm and writhe uncomfortably in acknowledgement of the achievement.
Just IMAGINE if we did get up, played Manure at Old Trafford and WON!!!
Richard Keys etc would be found hanging from their awful ties in the TV Studios! That'd teach them... Sweet!
The only thing I'm thinking is these absolute f**kin ARSEHOLES who call themselves "supporters" who go round ganging up on individuals who they know cannot defend themselves trying to be some kind of heroes by doing so.
We (the proper fans) ought to kick the shit out of them to see how they like it. They're not hard - they are the epitamy of weakness in every single respect of their pathetic lives.
Anyway - rant over - I feel better now thanks.. ;D
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Post by mumf14 on Apr 1, 2008 0:06:20 GMT
Oh Noooooooo. Anger, Agression, passion...And an F.A appeal for 3 points that we couldn't get on the day ... Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.!
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Post by PMac on Apr 1, 2008 0:12:47 GMT
We don't deserve the points.
We didn't win them.
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Post by mumf14 on Apr 1, 2008 0:16:14 GMT
Pmac...At last....one person who agrees with me..!
I applaud you.!
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Post by pulisjr on Apr 1, 2008 0:17:11 GMT
Let's face it - even if we went up we would have even more slating from the likes of Alan Hansen and Mark Lawrenson
"Terrible Defending"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 0:21:18 GMT
I think most people would have that view mumf, I think the thing that pissed people off is the fact that once again a professional football club has completely disregarded a rule and then say oh sorry we didnt know we were confused.com....yeah fuckin right confused. Like we could of been having 2 million rated Paul Gallagher to come of the bench instead of Lewis Buxton. Set a rule set a punishment to go with it then everything is crystal.
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Post by PMac on Apr 1, 2008 0:26:00 GMT
Yep - The rules were broken but it's the punishment that's not set. We can guess what it may be but to give us 2 more points that "could" be decisive for promotion..... Would that be fair? Really? The case against that argument is "if" we won the game we wouldn't be bothered at all. We had chances and whilst Gally didn't feature as our 2 million rated player, TP had options to ensure he was. I'd love the 2 points but don't think that's what should happen, that's all really  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 0:30:01 GMT
I actually said that on the evening after I got back to Longton, dunna want the points stick em where the sun don't shine for all I care we should have won could have won. However it may actually become more than just an issue for us. I am sure all other clubs in and around the drop zone will be furious if Sheff Weds get away with a fine.
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Post by powchirper on Apr 1, 2008 0:30:39 GMT
Idont want us to gain promotion dy default but come the end of the season those 2 points could be worth 25,000,000 quid each,
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Post by PMac on Apr 1, 2008 0:36:52 GMT
Fair points Sidders & Chirps.... I didn't consider the thoughts of those clubs surrounding Sheff Wed to be honest..
30 million each point. K I N E L L!!!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Apr 1, 2008 0:40:05 GMT
I'm up so late as we have just finished a piece on the media's treatment of Stoke for Monday nights Oatcake as it happens
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 0:42:17 GMT
Intresting, hope it's scathing and brutal |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Apr 1, 2008 0:48:57 GMT
I think it safe to say we are as appreciative of them as they are of us.  |
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Post by powchirper on Apr 1, 2008 0:53:05 GMT
Cant wait, also saves me asking if there is one Monday night.
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Post by PMac on Apr 1, 2008 1:00:39 GMT
Sounds intresting.
Look on Sky ports website under Championship - Stoke City and it gives a perfect example of what's happening.
The media hate bandwagon is getting so predicable you'd think these "media types" would even be aware of it themselves
Ahh - Boys will be boys eh.
Let em get on with it = Promotion will be even sweeter... Nice ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 1:07:13 GMT
They hate us, everything about us to them is degrading our style of football having a hooligan element so prominent when all football clubs had seemingly solved thiers nothing glamorous about Stoke City FC horrible hoofball bully boy tactics from a horrible part of the world. Which is why I will piss myself laughing when they have to mention us at least more than three times in a report write up in the nationals next season when we play the beautiful elite of the world of media jizzed up football.
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Post by pulisjr on Apr 1, 2008 1:33:38 GMT
Stick a picture of Cherry Dee in for good measure By demand of Ant Pulis ;D |
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Post by slangking on Apr 1, 2008 6:51:23 GMT
Shocking hypocrisy, after all there is nothing more negative than this board about the club and this poster is probably the worst culprit of all, slagging off Stoke incessantly since the Icelanders fuct off. I'm up so late as we have just finished a piece on the media's treatment of Stoke for Monday nights Oatcake as it happens |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 1, 2008 7:08:28 GMT
Slangking, to be fair to Mark W - if we must! ;D He hasn't spent much time slagging off the club as such - for the simple reason that he is a passionate Stokie like the rest of us. The great majority of his criticism was reserved for TP and his alleged hatred of young players and his inability to get decent players to sign for him. And (for the first few months after his return) he warned us not to trust Peter Coates who he predicted would bring the club to its knees again. PS - Oh and he criticised the signing of Lawrence as a slow defender. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 8:14:00 GMT
What they will say when we go up...
The International Press Agency news wires: Monday 5th May 2008
P R E S S R E L E A S E
**Stoke Promotion Disgrace**
Text messages from [stay-away] spectators at The Walkers Stadium report, somewhat unbelievably, that Stoke City yesterday became a Premiership club. They beat Leicester in what turned out to be a yet another undeserved and lucky victory, their 45th of the season. This victory heralds Stoke's promotion to the top flight for the first time in nearly quarter of a century.
This season, rumours of ugly football at Stoke drove journalists away. And reports from beaten teams tell of unspeakable crimes against the beautiful game and desecration at many of the holy shrines of pure football from West Bromwich to Charlton and Bristol.
This has been a remarkable story for Stoke, a nothing team, purchased two years ago on Ebay by a back-street bookie called Peter Coates from a fishmonger in Iceland. Coates then appointed Tony Pulis, a known hard-man, as his team manager. Pulis has a dubious legal history in the game and some felt he should never be allowed to manage again. Pulis and Coates then went about amassing a gang around them, some of them immigrants, most of them large and some described as 'mercenaries'. This higly trained gang dress in red striped shirts, no doubt to hide the blood and call themselves "The Team". Visitors have often complained of physical intimidation by The Team and many, from places like West Bromwich, go home crying. It is suspected in some football circles that there are secrets buried under the soon-to-be filled out corners of Stoke's Britannia Stadium, itself the subject of a dubious deal between local government officials and the club.
Premier League officials commented from their London offices, "We've heard the rumours, but we haven't seen Stoke play. However, we do treat everyone equally. And a team from a grubby slum suburb, without an airport, will be given equal consideration to e.g. a fabulous London team and their glamourous new billionaire Italian owner and his state-of-the-art multi-million pound yacht."
The Guild of Sports Writers commented, "We've heard the rumours, but we are governed by a stict code and we always report it the way we see it. However, none of our members have seen Stoke play. Now they are in the Premier League, we've got to write about them. We've heard that they can kick a ball a long way but that there is no airport near the ground. What more is there to say? It just makes sense for us to stay in London, hang out with Flavio Briatore on his yacht and reduce our carbon footprint. Besides Stoke will probably not like getting beaten every week. It's our moral duty to bring Stoke to their knees, they will thank us in the end.
A top reporter from Sky News commented "I've heard the rumours, and as an impartial journalist, I cannot believe that this has been achieved within the laws of the land, never mind the laws of the game. You have to feel sorry for West Bromwich Albion who have played like Brazil only to be cheated out of promotion on the technicality of fewer points at the season's end."
He went on to say, "I have never seen Stoke play, and I thank God for that."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 8:45:55 GMT
I like it malvern, however, just make sure you're not reporting from The Walkers Stadium on the last day of the season, you'll only be disappointed |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 8:50:03 GMT
Actually I like the irony of that line ;D
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 8:51:48 GMT
Actually I like the irony of that line ;D True, I'd not thought of it that way! So if it was intentional then, "D'oh!" |
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Post by RAF on Apr 1, 2008 8:56:35 GMT
I really couldn't give a flying fuck what the press think about us.
I certainly don't get precious when they have a go at our tactics or how we will come straight back down if we get promoted, that is their right to write that stuff.
Personally we all too often sound like we have a victim syndrome because we don't get reported on favourably.
Well so fucking what? Nothing has changed in the last 20 odd years, and if we do get promoted they will have to fucking report on us.
It's up to TP and the Team to get us promoted and it's up to TP and the team to keep us there.
If we do a Derby, we can't complain when we get slated and laughed at, as that is the very nature of the beast.
At least at the moment we are getting regular mentions in the press, even if they aren't all reporting that we play carpet football like Brazil and our fans are all angels and Stoke on Trent is a bustling oppulent Metropolis.
Just enjoy the fact that we are at least getting recognised, even if the slimey premiershit jizzfest reporters clearly don't fucking like it.
Let's face it we will never be the darlings of the press like Manure no matter who plays for us, how we play or who our manager is.
In short FUCK THEM!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 9:02:13 GMT
There are a few out there that actually can see past the premiership tinted glasses too. Those who don't really and truthfully don not want to be reporting Stoke v Whomever they want a prem match to fizzy jizzy all over so they are going to be negative from the start. (Actually on the way to the match on the lappy probably)
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Apr 1, 2008 9:10:58 GMT
One thing I can vouch for is on Sunday, I accessed BBC football site homepage and there was match report links for Bristol v Norwich, Hull v Watford and WBA v Colchester. NO Stoke City. Um, sorry but was Stoke City not TOP of the league before that round of fixtures? As for the Wednesday loan fiasco. Not a word until Monday. Mind you Guardian was not that much better either. But press is press and I could not care less.
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Post by apb1 on Apr 1, 2008 9:11:25 GMT
I think the panel on Match of the Day were pretty complimentary during the Newcastle game (with the exception of the insulting piece on Fuller) - Hansen in particular. Sky are vile though.
Also many of our supporters acted like big club tossers when were in League One, and people on here still say Bristol's 'luck' will run out soon.
Best ignore it (or even better exploit it) rather than get all paranoid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 9:24:37 GMT
however, just make sure you're not reporting from The Walkers Stadium on the last day of the season, you'll only be disappointed Perhaps a little obscure, but I was just trying to make the point that people who report on us do so remotely - even other teams fans who will have seen us a maximum of twice a year, many of them once and most of them never. Nevertheless, they seem to know all about the way we play. I have seen Stoke twelve times this season and our reputation is not wholly deserved. The old ways are there at times, but not as much as they were - and the effectiveness of our play is being proven. But what get reported? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 9:37:56 GMT
That's cool malvern, as soon as Lirpa mentioned it I kinda picked up on what you were trying to do.
I essentially agree with what RAF was saying and we have to be realistic too. Our style predominantly isn't the prettiest to watch, especially for a neutral. Its effectiveness, as you've mentioned it, is great from a Stokie's point of view though, and that's what we should actually care about, not what some 'journalist' is writing about us in a Sunday national. And it's not like we're the only ones now are we? I'd suggest that the majority of the Football League could say that they're ganged up on by the press - but some really do have a victim mentality on here and throw their toys out of the pram should there not be an all-singing, all-dancing, glowing report in the papers the next day. I do find it frustrating when there seems to be a complete lack of impartiality in the report, and when it's clear that they weren't even there, but I'm realistic enough to know that this happens up and down the country, we're not singled out whatsoever despite what some on here believe. One thing I am very sure of (well, two actually) that should we get promoted then the media, even Sky, will tell us what a great achievement it is and say 'Well done and Congratulations' - they will also all have us as favourites to come straight back down. And realistically, we know that there will have to be some major reconstruction of the squad if we are to avoid that fate next year - but let's get there first and then worry about that!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2008 12:10:41 GMT
Very much agree with you East Mids. Lou Macari made the point well a couple of weeks ago saying that in the Championship is is all about getting in the Premiership. The financial aspects make that more important than the way the game is played and who is to say how we will play once we get there.
You're correct we have no automatic right to glowing reviews and we perhaps should expect to be panned. But I have been to matches and not been able to believe the next days reports are about the same match. I just find it funny (hence the spoof press release) when I read this stuff. It fails to recognise the success Stoke are having and focusses on how incredulous the reporter is at the lack of effectiveness of 'style teams' like Charlton, WBA and others.
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