Post by gordonmarshall on Oct 16, 2008 15:13:15 GMT
Alan Balls first signing.....Vince Hilaire.That's the way to avoid relegation.Then followed Paul Barnes,Tony Kelly,Dave Kevan,Noel Blake,Tony Ellis and Garry Brooke.No way was a team with them lot ever going to achieve the dizzy heights of mid-table.
Post by moortownpotter on Oct 16, 2008 19:59:05 GMT
Whenever I hear of managers getting slagged off, it just makes me think 'Mills Out'. It just has that ring!
Mills Out! Mills Out! Mills Out! It just kept going and going.
On the Boothen, there was always some fella who used to shout 'Denis Smith's Red and White Army' every week to remind us of how we fcked up by not appointing him in the early 80's. And he carried on all the way through til Lou. In fact I'm sure I've heard him since then, but can't pinpoint the date!
As for Millsy, he should have gone at the end of 88/89. Did a decent job til then, steadied the ship. Now give £1 million quid to a new man.
But we didn't and until this year we have reaped the failure of that decision.
How about this for a crazy idea? On the run up to singing Tony Pulis' Barmy Army (can you sing an apostrophe?) why don't we sing all the decent managers we've had since our inception?
Thomas Slaney's Barmy Army, Horace Austerberry's Barmy Army, Tom Mather's Barmy Army, Bob McGrory's Barmy Army, Frankie Taylor's Barmy Army, Waddington's Barmy Army, Alan Durban's Barm Army, Lou Macari's Barmy Army, ?Thordason's? Barmy Army................Tony Pulis' Barmy Army.
Now there's no need to be like that Otley... This is now three replies following one of your thread killing emails, surely a record by your standards...? And are you glad you're paying my bonus this year...?
....Palin,Devine,Tony 'zico' Kelly,Talbot & we had good players coming through : Parkin,Bould,Hemming,Adams,Phil Heath (before he went shit),Saunders,Shaw (still the best debut goal ever),Beeston.
& in Peter Fox we had a star keeper.Experience in Berry.
looking back OK the club had the stuffing knocked out of us by 84-85 but perhaps we should have had more confidence in our own side. Mills 1st season was very good given everyones expectations & his peanuts budget & the second season was bizzare in its extreme awfulness/brilliance.
a stronger manager (& Denis was the obvious candidate) would have got Stoke promoted or at least challenging.
maybe we just need "a bit more time" to re-consider MM
strangled - that was Keith Bertschin who scored and went mental...oh, and by then Mills was playing on the South Coast at Southampton!
Interesting rumour regarding Bertschin - it was suggested that he was playing away with Mill's wife in 86/87 and that led Mills to sell at the earliest opportunity, just before the transfer window in March '87 and during the final run-in to the season, when we still had a chance of a play-off spot.
Not sure how true it is, but it might explain why he left at such an inappropriate time, despite just coming off the bench to grab a late equaliser at Huddersfield and still being the best goalscorer at the club... ???
I knew a cpouple of the Stoke players at the time, Phil Heath in particular. He told us that since Brian Talbot arrived there was trouble in the dressing room. Talbot had big ideas of becoming a manager and often shouted Mills down in the dressing room and barked his own orders on the pitch. A lot of the team prefered Talbots ideas to Mills`and so with a split behind the scenes Mills` days were numbered. I remember a game away at Shrewsbury,possibly boxing day, where Mills stood at the touchline trying to make a substitution and the player in question wouldnt come off !! Mills sat down and did nothing and admitted defeat. He could never turn the situation around without the players behind him. As a manager he should have been big enough to stand up and get rid of the bad apples but he was too much of a nice bloke really. Funny how he never managed again. I guess he realised he wasnt cut out for it.
To be honest, Millsy was there at a very volatile and starange time for Stoke as a club. The tension was so thick, and the expectation was high. The sit in after the Sunderland defeat 0-2 at home being a prize example. Millsy's sponsored Volvo got a bit of a kicking, and the OB had to charge at the mob, which if memory serves me right, was a few hundred. We'd just sold Beagrie to Everton, and everyone was up for a bit of bother ( me included). We were just a bunch of angry people.
The huge " MILLS OUT " painted on the outside of the Old Vic said it all.
Bally had the same problem. It was just an aggressive place at the time he was there. Throwing coins at his family, and kicking the bus with our own players on it after losing to Swindon away.
Don't think we will ever see that aggression again.