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Post by fentonstoke on Oct 13, 2009 18:17:08 GMT
Hi has anyone got any video footage/links to Chambo in his hey day with us, sadly i talk to people at work about great wingers and they don't remember him.
I missed his debut against the Arsenil, apparently Sansom spent most of it on his backside.
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Post by Hiram on Oct 13, 2009 18:24:52 GMT
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Post by imallstokedup on Oct 13, 2009 18:27:37 GMT
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Post by nicknacknoo on Oct 13, 2009 21:13:06 GMT
surely one of the exciting players to ever wear the red and white stripes?
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 13, 2009 21:24:25 GMT
OK, I'm fine with the backlash I'm bound to get but here's my honest opinion. He was a very talented player who provided moments of great excitement. On his day, he was practically unplayable and managed to get dangerous balls into the strikers even when marked tightly by two men. That's on a good day. Many were the days that you couldn't tell he was on the pitch and he was one of the laziest players that I have ever seen at Stoke. Lost count of the many times that he turned to shrugg his shoulders at a player who had played a great 'through ball' for him but he wanted it ONLY to his feet which is why he was, ultimately, a limited player and why his career at the top was brief. Was glad to have him and he was a breath of fresh air but all things considered, not fit to polish TC's boots.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Oct 13, 2009 21:32:35 GMT
Not trying to be controversial for the sake of it then?
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 13, 2009 21:34:00 GMT
Sir Robin: An HONEST opinion my friend.
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Post by nicknacknoo on Oct 13, 2009 21:37:03 GMT
i can only go on memory of the buzz that spread round the vic when he got hold of the ball,there was an anticipation of something about to happen that ive never witnessed before or since.greenhoff gave me a simliar feeling,but the buzz that crescendo ed around the ground is something ill never forget,that cross he got in for ooh georgie berry was something wankerchops ronaldho and cruyff would have been proud of!
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Post by PottersBrim on Oct 13, 2009 21:38:28 GMT
dozintheseventees,
Everything you say is right. But for a period of time, he was absolutely as good as anything I've ever seen - before or since.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 13, 2009 21:43:21 GMT
He excited me too at times but it wasn't all sweetness and light with him. He got stick from the crowd regularly for not running on to good balls that would have seen him clean through. He'd stand and look at the passer as if he were mad! He was one of the quickest but only used that speed when he had the ball at his feet (and he was very good at it). On the other hand, he wouldn't 'chase' anything and he often got 'stick' for it. He was a very good player but I remember him very well and it wasn't ALL good. If people disagree that's fine but they are my memories of him and we should perhaps ask ourselves why his career was so limited given his awsome talent.
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Post by Beardy200 on Oct 13, 2009 21:45:34 GMT
My favourite Stoke player.
In his prime (obviously gets better with time ;D ) he was the fastest thing i've ever seen and when he got going it was just "Wow". Unfortunately injuries got the better of him and a bit like Owen he was never the same again.
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Post by nicknacknoo on Oct 13, 2009 21:46:57 GMT
you re gonna burst my bubble and tell me ian painter was nt a genius too,i just know it!
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 13, 2009 21:51:04 GMT
nicknacknoo: Thought he was fucking brilliant mate! ;D
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Post by PottersBrim on Oct 13, 2009 21:52:25 GMT
He excited me too at times but it wasn't all sweetness and light with him. He got stick from the crowd regularly for not running on to good balls that would have seen him clean through. He'd stand and look at the passer as if he were mad! He was one of the quickest but only used that speed when he had the ball at his feet (and he was very good at it). On the other hand, he wouldn't 'chase' anything and he often got 'stick' for it. He was a very good player but I remember him very well and it wasn't ALL good. If people disagree that's fine but they are my memories of him and we should perhaps ask ourselves why his career was so limited given his awsome talent. I remember watching from the Boothen paddock and for a period of months, every time Stoke got the ball we looked to get the ball to Chamberlain. He rarely lost the ball and would generally make the opposing fullback look amateur at best. I'd agree that he didn't tackle or track back enough though. If he was with Stoke and in his prime now, Etherington would keep him out of the side .
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 13, 2009 21:55:22 GMT
Potters Brim: Absolutely agree mate. I'm just adding a 'fuller' picture of him as I saw him. He was a great player and gave the crowd moments of huge excitement. He's rightly remembered for his pace, his talent and the entertainment he brought to the Vic. Just saying it wasn't ALL good with him. I also recognise that it was great to see a Stoke player playing for England (briefly).
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Post by twisty on Oct 13, 2009 21:58:17 GMT
I'm his niece's boss (Neville's Daughter) ,, lovely girl, he's (Mark) is working at pompy or summit she was saying.
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Post by fezgandy on Oct 13, 2009 22:03:13 GMT
Hes Vale through and through. Trust me.
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Post by twisty on Oct 13, 2009 22:11:39 GMT
Him and Neville both are.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 13, 2009 22:13:57 GMT
Can't be too many Stoke players with a brother who's met Adolf Hitler!
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 13, 2009 22:25:36 GMT
Once in a blue moon we have a player who is capable of the WOW factor - that special bit of flair which can turn your hair on end, even if they don't do it all the time - Chambo was one of those. I can still feel the excitement when he ran at a defence. The cross out of nothing for the 2nd goal in that clip is sensational. Played a number of times for England of course - didn't he have a great game against Brazil ? Not too many others over the years - maybe Conroy, Hoekstra, Fuller, Steino, even Phil Heath occasionally.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Oct 13, 2009 22:27:55 GMT
I agree with all that Malcolm. Just playing Devil's Advocate a little.
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Post by doitforfrank on Oct 13, 2009 23:24:02 GMT
I still believe to this day, that in his first season with Stoke, had he stayed fit, we would have easily qualified for europe that season. Without him, there was no cutting edge, and as said before, when fit, he was unplayable.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 13, 2009 23:37:54 GMT
My Dad know Nev and Mark from their Vale days and my Dad has one his England bags that he had for the u-21's or something, which I think is cool!
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 14, 2009 10:49:17 GMT
dozintheseventies, I agree 100%. Those things get overlooked. Really he should be on the list of unfulfilled potential players.
On form though he could be marvellous. The cross for the 2nd against Luton got him in the England squad. The collective gasp circled the Vic!
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Post by lordb on Oct 14, 2009 12:21:35 GMT
I still think he had nore natural talent than (the brilliant) John Barnes. easily the best winger I have seen for any side live. pefect dribbler,perfect crosser of the ball,sublime shooting.sheer class.
lazy bastard? maybe.
we had Mickey Thomas on the other flank who was the opposite in work ethic.
injuries,a bad transfer to Howard Wilkos Sheff Weds (& people call TP's sides direct!jeesus SCFC right now play carpet football compared to that horror show) & indeed a lack of aplication perhaps did for Chambo.
when he was at Pompey he seemed to work harder but wasnt as brilliant as before.
post Waddo is one of the 1st names on a best SCFC XI for me.
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Post by chris9 on Oct 14, 2009 12:51:24 GMT
Hi Guys
What a discussion on someone who was a legend.
I have worked with Chambo for a few years and he is a great guy. Some of the stories he tells of his days are awsome.
He is currently coaching down at Portsmouth FC.
Mark is a laid back person, and has a fantastic personallity, and i guess that laid back nature could be translated to some of the negative posts though.
I must say though that some of the great players arent always the grafters. Le Tis at saints, hoddle at spurs, waddle everywhere. I guess it depends on the type of footballer you prefer!!!!
However to be discussed 25 or so years after leaving the club, shows that he has an imprint on our club.
Gooooooarn Stoke
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Post by lordb on Oct 14, 2009 12:57:32 GMT
cheers Chris
is Chambo jr still a player?
as for what kind of player ypu want: well for me I think the best sides have a bit of everything.
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Post by JoeinOz on Oct 14, 2009 12:57:45 GMT
Hello Chris9. Thing is IMHO the lack of application is what prevented Le Tissier and Chambo becoming great players.
guess that laid back nature could be translated to some of the negative posts though
That could be a part of it yes. Although seeing him in full flight is still a great memory and I'm sure the vast majority of Stokies wish him all the best. Say hello to him from us!! ;D
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 14, 2009 13:02:18 GMT
At his best you could substitute the cheating Argie for Chambo in this picture. He used to terrorise defenses.
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Post by stokemark on Oct 14, 2009 13:34:24 GMT
What an amazing game that was - I was in the Boothen Paddock for that one. Never forget Mickey Thomas injuring his leg and he played on until his white sock had turned red with blood.
We were on the cusp of something bloody good then but Ritchie Barker got sucked into 'percentages' football and the rest, as they say, is history
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