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Post by katjam7 on Aug 26, 2010 15:00:06 GMT
The fact we are basically giving away one of the best players out our club is shameful. Fuck what Pulis says, ALOT more has gone on behind the scenes with Liam than what has been let on. PLayers are leaving in their droves from us, and what have wee brought in ?? 2 championship players, another Kenneth that is overrated to say the least !! Fucing livid !  |
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Post by ipswichpotter on Aug 26, 2010 15:01:39 GMT
Lawrence has gone as far as he can with Stoke. It's as simple as that.
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Post by DansViews on Aug 26, 2010 15:01:50 GMT
Liam is an alcoholic. Don't need him at this club
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Post by serpico on Aug 26, 2010 15:02:51 GMT
How can he be a massive loss ? even though he played a massive role in getting Stoke here, he's not exactly been an ever present in our premiership life so far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2010 15:03:18 GMT
Alot more certainly has gone on and the truth never came out over the ALLEDGED dog incident thanks to the club so before you slate Pulis have a little think about it.
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Post by walrus on Aug 26, 2010 15:03:27 GMT
Lawrence has a great player in him but we've seen it all too infrequently since we were promoted.
How you can say Jones is a Championship player is beyond me and effectively invalidates everything else you say. Walters has also made a bright start and looks likely to contribute quite a lot. He certainly didn't look out of his depth in the Premier League on Saturday.
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Post by offthewall on Aug 26, 2010 15:03:45 GMT
Wrong IMO
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Post by DansViews on Aug 26, 2010 15:04:56 GMT
He didn't trip over his dog he was wasted fell down the stairs. He is.out on the pop all the time. Peter Reid James Beattie and Liam were always out together drinking even on a Friday night. But Liam has a problem
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Post by walrus on Aug 26, 2010 15:05:33 GMT
Alot more certainly has gone on and the truth never came out over the ALLEDGED dog incident thanks to the club so before you slate Pulis have a little think about it. I think the dog incident actually happeneed, it's far too silly a story for the club to make up if it was really something else like a fall in a nightclub or an unauthorised five a side injury as was rumoured. If it was one of those things, surely they would have just called it a training ground injury knowing that would attract nothing like as much attention as saying it was dog related. |
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Post by foster on Aug 26, 2010 15:06:31 GMT
Liams old school and we need to keep moving forward and look towards bringing in the next generation of players. Already stuff on this on the Lawrence for Wilson thread.
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Post by rigsby on Aug 26, 2010 15:07:57 GMT
The fact we are basically giving away one of the best players out our club is shameful. Fuck what Pulis says, ALOT more has gone on behind the scenes with Liam than what has been let on. PLayers are leaving in their droves from us, and what have wee brought in ?? 2 championship players, another Kenneth that is overrated to say the least !! Fucing livid ! What absolute nonsense. |
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Post by chell_rosey on Aug 26, 2010 15:08:39 GMT
Player come, players go. That's just the way it is. As long as we get better in that's fine.
Good luck Liam.
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Post by besty on Aug 26, 2010 15:09:41 GMT
was a great championship player, good delivery, never had much pace, now has NO pace.
will still be a good championship player.
thanks for your service Liam.
move on.
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Post by jay1610 on Aug 26, 2010 15:10:20 GMT
I partly agree with you katjam, on the surface we are getting rid of a player who is more than good enough to be part of our midfield. However if the drug/drink rumours are true then it may be time for to move on, for his own sake and ours.
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Post by jen on Aug 26, 2010 15:10:34 GMT
Lawrence didn't really cut it last season. Hopefully the news that he might be on his way means there is someone else lined up for RW (apart from Walters). Talking of wingers - anyone know what's going on with Ben Marshall - he's not been sent out on loan has he? He looked very impressive pre-season.
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Post by rockhead163 on Aug 26, 2010 15:10:55 GMT
Liam has got slower over the last two years to a point where the Linesman now has to hold his run before flagging for off side  Not a big loss in my opinion. |
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Post by hooftastic on Aug 26, 2010 15:15:19 GMT
He is a good player and doubt we would have been promoted without him.
Still, for a number of reasons he hasn't played well / consistently since promotion and we currently cope without him so it isn't the end of the world. In fact (in the nicest possible way) we won't notice he has gone. So see it as gaining a player for two players we wouldn't know exist if you look at the team over the past 8-9 months.
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Post by katjam7 on Aug 26, 2010 15:17:34 GMT
Fair points made - especially about the drink / drugs issue. It's just abit dissapointing really. I mean fair enough - if we had signed a mint winger to replace him, but is this Wilson REALLY that good ?
I'll never forget THAT goal at Cov...Liam will always be a Stoke Legend for that goal for me.
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Post by barmystokie1 on Aug 26, 2010 15:18:12 GMT
I will miss lawrence as he has been one of my favourite players since he has been here, but if Pulis is not willing to play him then whats the point in paying him big wages? And he has not looked the same player last season as previous .. (granted not many chances)
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 26, 2010 15:18:21 GMT
At The emirates last year, liam was so slow he seemed to be going abckwards. I think one of the big learnings from promoion is that pace is the killer in the Premiership. hence Walters not as skillful but that bit quicker and sohas a chance to contribute
the right move for everyone
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Post by frodekippe on Aug 26, 2010 15:19:59 GMT
He is a good player and doubt we would have been promoted without him. Still, for a number of reasons he hasn't played well / consistently since promotion and we currently cope without him so it isn't the end of the world. In fact (in the nicest possible way) we won't notice he has gone. So see it as gaining a player for two players we wouldn't know exist if you look at the team over the past 8-9 months. +1 |
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Post by phil51 on Aug 26, 2010 15:20:20 GMT
Liam has been a really good player for Stoke but his pace (what little he had) has gone. Very grateful for his contribution but he needs a Championship / Scottish club now.
Good luck Liam.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2010 15:20:33 GMT
katjam how do you know a winger isn't coming in and by the way the bloke will always be highly thought of by most Stoke fans after what he did in our promotion season
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 26, 2010 15:22:21 GMT
Liam was one of the best Championship players we have ever had. If he has played more than 15 good games for us un the Premiership I will be surprised. When he was left out by TP soon after his Irish debut I was critical of TP. But once I saw Lawrence return to the side I could understand his absence.
I don't pretend to know all that has gone on from the alleged accident with the dog in our first Prem season to the total loss of form last season to his hanging around with James Beattie - but I'd stake my life that something that we don't know about HAS gone on and Liam's form has been the worse for it.
Who is to blame is irrelevant - the FACT is that, for us, Liam is no longer the player he was. Pity - he was once one of my favourite players - but it is now best he moves on.
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Post by coggy on Aug 26, 2010 15:24:40 GMT
Time for him to move on. Onwards we go , it happens.... and he will do well back in the Champ !
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Post by fromafar07 on Aug 26, 2010 15:25:13 GMT
At The emirates last year, liam was so slow he seemed to be going abckwards. I think one of the big learnings from promoion is that pace is the killer in the Premiership. hence Walters not as skillful but that bit quicker and sohas a chance to contribute the right move for everyone  if that logic was used for every player, Pulis would be getting rid of Delap, Whelan, Sidibe, Collins, Whiethead, Faye |
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Post by coggy on Aug 26, 2010 15:26:08 GMT
Yep not enough pace in Liam for the prem and being a WINGER
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Post by One-Two on Aug 26, 2010 15:26:09 GMT
The fact we are basically giving away one of the best players out our club is shameful. Fuck what Pulis says, ALOT more has gone on behind the scenes with Liam than what has been let on. PLayers are leaving in their droves from us, and what have wee brought in ?? 2 championship players, another Kenneth that is overrated to say the least !! Fucing livid ! You're right, he is one of our best players. Behind Ryan, Huth, Faye, Ethers, Ric, Kenwyne, Whitehead, probably even behind Whelan ;D Did you even watch him play last season? ??? |
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Post by stokecity4life on Aug 26, 2010 15:26:50 GMT
He WAS the best player at the club...
Not any more, still a decent squad player but from what i hear about him he is a real c@@t
Beats esq.... not a fav with TP.
Move him and Kitson on for a 23 yr old up and coming great player... lower wages for two players who wont play for Stoke again.
Cant be bad IMO
Leaves us light again on the Right and surely means Tunny wont go as he is cover for that side.
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Post by RAF on Aug 26, 2010 15:27:12 GMT
When are you picking up the degree Poirot?
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if that logic was used for every player, Pulis would be getting rid of Delap, Whelan, Sidibe, Collins, Whiethead, Faye
