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Post by theblackdeath on Jul 23, 2010 15:56:56 GMT
Says on sky sports.com that a number of prem clubs are monitoring him. Would be a good signing IMO.
He's only 18 and 6ft 4 would be a good replacement for Kitson and cheap too as he plays for Oldham.
your thoughts please
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Post by prettyricky on Jul 23, 2010 17:00:02 GMT
we don't need anymore youth players leave him a few years and if he's any good to drop in the first team move for him then
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2010 17:14:26 GMT
we don't need anymore youth players leave him a few years and if he's any good to drop in the first team move for him then Is that You TP?
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Post by One-Two on Jul 23, 2010 17:21:15 GMT
we don't need anymore youth players leave him a few years and if he's any good to drop in the first team move for him then Yes, because we have far too many quality youth players at the moment ;D
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Post by theblackdeath on Jul 28, 2010 22:02:42 GMT
Scored a hat trick tonight AS Oldham beat a full strength Bolton side 3-0. I know that you can't really take friendly results seriously but this guy has surely got to be worth a punt he definitely knows where the goal is.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 28, 2010 22:04:38 GMT
I expect him to be signed by Bolton by Tuesday then.......
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Post by knowles on Jul 28, 2010 22:30:56 GMT
Spurs were after him last season, and his agent kicked up a fuss about the money he was on (£150 a week at the time).
The lad signed a tasty 5 year contract in April (I think), and is seen as part of the Oldham future, but we know contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on.
He is strong and, as tonight has shown, knows where the back of the net is. Wouldn't surprise me if he ended up at a higher level in twelve months time.
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Post by march4 on Jul 28, 2010 22:38:48 GMT
Sounds like he would suit us.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 29, 2010 5:14:51 GMT
Sounds like he would suit us. Give him ten years to build up a solid 1-in-12 strike rate and Tone might show an interest.
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Post by theblackdeath on Jul 29, 2010 9:39:13 GMT
we will probably be linked with him right up until the likes of bolton wigan or wolves sign him up. He will probably score 10 goals + in the prem within the next two seasons, then we will be left cursing why we didn't go in for him.
It is usually the clubs around us that take chances on younger lower league players while we wait for the proven less attainable targets. I know we have had our fingers burned (soares, Tonge) but we really should take a chance on these lower league players (Maynard, Eaves,)
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Post by gaznandi on Jul 29, 2010 12:55:08 GMT
Blackpool have bid for him... "Blackpool are now believed to have stepped up their pursuit by lodging a bid of £250,000, which could rise to as much as £1million with add-ons." www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11728_6284909,00.html
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Post by theblackdeath on Jul 29, 2010 14:43:55 GMT
Wank get in there TP 1 million is nothing thats about the same cost as Beattie's left nut
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Post by knowles on Jul 29, 2010 14:45:16 GMT
Blackpool would be a great move for the lad. He's a Scouser, so not far for him to travel.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 29, 2010 14:56:48 GMT
Blackpool would be a great move for the lad. He's a Scouser, so not far for him to travel. About the same as us in the other direction though Knowles. These are just the kind of player we should be in for and at that price its a lose situation.even if see him as one for the future get him in and loan him back out again. Plus he's English so goes down as one of the home grown players.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2010 14:59:33 GMT
Blackpool would be a great move for the lad. He's a Scouser, so not far for him to travel. About the same as us in the other direction though Knowles. These are just the kind of player we should be in for and at that price its a lose situation.even if see him as one for the future get him in and loan him back out again. Plus he's English so goes down as one of the home grown players. He's under 21 so wouldn't need to go into the squad at all.
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Post by knowles on Jul 29, 2010 15:01:19 GMT
There's a young lad at Oldham called Kirk Millar who plays on the wing. He is class- we should look at him.
Peter Reid was at a couple of Oldham games last season (admittedly looking at opposition players), but who's to say he wasn't monitoring Eaves too?
Although he scored a hat-trick last night, I highly doubt he will start the season as first choice at Latics- it will probably be Abbott and Feeney.
Spurs offered £200K for him in February, but the club reckoned at the time he was worth about £800K.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2010 15:04:22 GMT
There's a young lad at Oldham called Kirk Millar who plays on the wing. He is class- we should look at him. Peter Reid was at a couple of Oldham games last season (admittedly looking at opposition players), but who's to say he wasn't monitoring Eaves too? Although he scored a hat-trick last night, I highly doubt he will start the season as first choice at Latics- it will probably be Abbott and Feeney. Spurs offered £200K for him in February, but the club reckoned at the time he was worth about £800K. Who was he scouting James?
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Post by knowles on Jul 29, 2010 15:08:44 GMT
Smithies in the Huddersfield match, and Beckford and Snodgrass against Leeds.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2010 15:11:04 GMT
Good stuff, from the little of seen of Smithies and Snodgrass they look decent.
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Post by theblackdeath on Jul 29, 2010 15:36:17 GMT
Another good young player is Johnny Howson from Leeds quality distributor of the ball likes a tackle and a quality shot. Bit of a poor man's Beckham. It just seems like these lower league players slip under our radar for the simple fact that bthey aren't black, old or useless enough.
These type of players got us to the premiership lawrence, whelan, cresswell why do we now not consider this type of player its almost as though we think we are too good to give a lower league player a chance.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 29, 2010 15:43:03 GMT
Another good young player is Johnny Howson from Leeds quality distributor of the ball likes a tackle and a quality shot. Bit of a poor man's Beckham. It just seems like these lower league players slip under our radar for the simple fact that bthey aren't black, old or useless enough. These type of players got us to the premiership lawrence, whelan, cresswell why do we now not consider this type of player its almost as though we think we are too good to give a lower league player a chance. I don't what scouting system the club has but down the years i have seen players,that i thought were verygood in the lower divisions and thought they'd go on to better thing. Joey Beachamp and Darren Purse at Oxford were just a couple 12 months later they both got big moves and the list goes on. Maybe i should be a scout.
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Post by knowles on Jul 29, 2010 15:43:04 GMT
It's a massive jump from League One to Premier League, and not many players are picked up by anyone at this level. Fabian Delph, Jonjo Shelvey (who we were after last summer) and Jermaine Beckford are three exceptions, but on the whole clubs aren't willing to take the gamble. It's not just us.
As for the three players you mention- Lawrence and Cresswell had played in the Premier League and were proven players, while Whelan was a shining light in a Championship side at Sheffield Wednesday. I don't think it's fair to compare them to the likes of Eaves.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 29, 2010 15:47:24 GMT
It's a massive jump from League One to Premier League, and not many players are picked up by anyone at this level. Fabian Delph, Jonjo Shelvey (who we were after last summer) and Jermaine Beckford are three exceptions, but on the whole clubs aren't willing to take the gamble. It's not just us. As for the three players you mention- Lawrence and Cresswell had played in the Premier League and were proven players, while Whelan was a shining light in a Championship side at Sheffield Wednesday. I don't think it's fair to compare them to the likes of Eaves. This is very true Knowles but you have to take a gamble and think young English talent as i think in the future we will have a system in place where you have to play 60% of your starting 11 as home countries.
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Post by knowles on Jul 29, 2010 15:51:19 GMT
Yeah, I'm not saying that we shouldn't take a gamble, just pointing out that it isn't just ourselves who don't exploit the lower league market. Personally, I'd have gone for Beckford on a free (who's to say we didn't try?), and I think Snodgrass is a tidy player. Eavesey has a lot to learn, but with the money we have, possibly worth the gamble. Beauchamp got his big move to West Ham, and then it all went tits up after about a month! Cracking player though. I saw alot of Oxford in those days and they had a great team...and Kevin Francis
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 29, 2010 15:59:29 GMT
Yeah, I'm not saying that we shouldn't take a gamble, just pointing out that it isn't just ourselves who don't exploit the lower league market. Personally, I'd have gone for Beckford on a free (who's to say we didn't try?), and I think Snodgrass is a tidy player. Eavesey has a lot to learn, but with the money we have, possibly worth the gamble. Beauchamp got his big move to West Ham, and then it all went tits up after about a month! Cracking player though. I saw alot of Oxford in those days and they had a great team...and Kevin Francis We never seem to exploit it very well again Tim Cahill is another one who really caught my eye back then,and i wasn't a bit suprised when Everton snapped him up. I've not seen any of the players mentioned today and realise we can't just look to sign anybody that might come good,but we must a scouting system in place that can follow these raw young player and see their potential. We have had the odd bit of success of course with Steino and Dixen who i told to anyone in the Boothen who would listen that he would play for England one day.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2010 15:13:06 GMT
I expect him to be signed by Bolton by Tuesday then....... Signed for Bolton today.
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Post by knowles on Aug 12, 2010 15:18:26 GMT
Good luck to the boy. Hope Bolton allow him out on loan as he won't get a sniff at the Reebok yet.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 12, 2010 15:42:06 GMT
200k according to Sky, not a bad investment.
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Post by knowles on Aug 12, 2010 15:53:02 GMT
Good value, especially seeing as Oldham turned down a similar offer from Spurs a few months ago.
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Post by jimmymcilroy on Aug 12, 2010 18:45:29 GMT
200k according to Sky, not a bad investment. They missed a 0 off .... he won't go for less than £2 million minimum. My brother watches him every week and really rates him.
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