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Post by roro on Jul 21, 2010 12:47:17 GMT
I cannot believe Fulham can prize away Martin Jol from Ajax! I take my hat off to Fulham for being bold enough to approach the manager of Ajax one of the great names in European Football. Could you imagine five years down the line if TP was to leave SCFC head hunting a top coach from a top side? Though I am not saying it would be the answer, it surely would be nice to think so.
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Post by knowles on Jul 21, 2010 12:49:57 GMT
Money talks, and Al Fayed has lots of it...
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Post by MilanStokie on Jul 21, 2010 12:52:16 GMT
Lets be honest, I think Ajax would struggle to stay in the Premier League. In my view they are on par with the same group as we are in. Relegation/midtable. They are no longer the force they were and teams like Fulham and maybe Stoke have surpassed their level.
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Post by roro on Jul 21, 2010 12:53:41 GMT
I know it does son, but does it also show how far Fulham have come ie making the Cup Final last season. Surely Fulham must be promising a good budget to compete, not for the league, but for a strong top half finish! Are you not surprised at all with the manager of Ajax leaving for Fulham, or is it just me?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 21, 2010 12:54:51 GMT
The Ajax board want to sell and Jol wants to buy, so they have problems.
That said Fulham are 200 million in debt.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Jul 21, 2010 12:55:54 GMT
I suspect its the fact that the Premier League is a far better money spinner for Jol than that of the Dutch Eredivisie.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 21, 2010 12:56:41 GMT
Dutch football has suffered from the same problem for as long as I can remember. There simply isn't the money in their league. Ajax are indeed a massive European club but they have always had to sell their best players to Italy, Spain and England because players can do so much better financially in those countries. Jol will no doubt have been tempted by a massive salary rise and the promise of being able to sign players. Why do you think that McClaren has just won the Dutch Championship and yet moved on to Wolfsburg? The German league is massive at the moment. As I said, it's something the Dutch have suffered from for many years.
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Post by scfcloyalist on Jul 21, 2010 12:56:42 GMT
maybe he wanted to return to england to manager as it is the best league in the world? and maybe prove spurs wrong. If they offered him better wages and a chance to manage in the prem he would jump at the chance i think.
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Post by knowles on Jul 21, 2010 13:00:54 GMT
I think an even bigger coup than Jol was when they managed to sign Edwin van der Saar from Juve.
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Post by jen on Jul 21, 2010 13:12:12 GMT
I read an interview the other day when Jol said that
1. He still has a house in London and loved it in the UK - so I guess he's keen to return
2. He was frustrated at Ajax because funds weren't available to buy players.
If these things are true it's easy to see why Fulham would be attractive to him.
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Post by Billy_Britain_HCAFC on Jul 21, 2010 13:38:38 GMT
Jol is obviously a bit of a boring cunt..
I'd rather fill-me-boots in Amsterdam 
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 21, 2010 13:44:48 GMT
Maybe he's filled his boots enough Billy! He managed HAMBURG as well don't forget  ;D |
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Post by stokecityscott on Jul 21, 2010 13:48:46 GMT
He has just sold his business (Harrods) for £1.5bn
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Post by Billy_Britain_HCAFC on Jul 21, 2010 14:08:11 GMT
Maybe he's filled his boots enough Billy! He managed HAMBURG as well don't forget ;D
Instead if the traditional post match Guinness and carafe of chilled Chardonnay in the managers office.. I venture that Jol and Avram Grant go two's up on some eastern european DirtBird..
Footnote:
Wouldn't wanna go into bat after Avram Grant 
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Post by roro on Jul 21, 2010 15:16:48 GMT
I think an even bigger coup than Jol was when they managed to sign Edwin van der Saar from Juve. A good call that Knowlesey son. I always think it was a mistake by Fergie not signing him earlier. |
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Post by salopstick on Jul 21, 2010 15:19:41 GMT
the premier league is bigger than the eriediv or what ever the fuck its called
that division is so cack steve mclaren won it with fc twente and they are not even a proper team
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 21, 2010 15:40:08 GMT
It's pretty much like the Premier League to be honest Salopstick. Three very good teams, a couple more that are pretty decent and the rest 'also-rans'. Same in any league anywhere in Europe truth be told. The Dutch lack one vital ingredient - money.
They consistently produce good footballers and it's a very entertaining league but the best players always end up moving to where the money is (Italy, Spain, England).
I lived there for three years and thoroughly enjoyed the football (which I went to every week). It's true that the League was then, and still is, dominated by 3 or 4 clubs but nowhere is that more true than England.
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Post by StoKeith on Jul 21, 2010 18:06:36 GMT
It's pretty much like the Premier League to be honest Salopstick. Three very good teams, a couple more that are pretty decent and the rest 'also-rans'. Same in any league anywhere in Europe truth be told. The Dutch lack one vital ingredient - money. They consistently produce good footballers and it's a very entertaining league but the best players always end up moving to where the money is (Italy, Spain, England). I lived there for three years and thoroughly enjoyed the football (which I went to every week). It's true that the League was then, and still is, dominated by 3 or 4 clubs but nowhere is that more true than England. The lack of money has recently made the league more interesting than the Prem, La Liga and Serie A though. Although Ajax, Feyenoord and PSV are always near the top, FC Twente and AZ Alkmaar have both recently broken the 26-year stranglehold by the Big 3. |
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Post by prettyricky on Jul 22, 2010 0:09:56 GMT
i'd say atm fulham are the bigger club they reached last years europa league final when was the last time ajax won anything outside of holland don't even think they've won the dutch league for like 5 years
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 22, 2010 7:39:31 GMT
Fulham arent or ever will be a bigger club than Ajax.
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Post by Irish Stokie on Jul 22, 2010 7:43:58 GMT
Its not so much that Fulham are bigger then Ajax but that the Prem is an awful lot bigger then the Dutch league.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 22, 2010 9:09:42 GMT
Im not arguing that fact.
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Post by knowles on Jul 22, 2010 9:19:23 GMT
He's turned them down.
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Post by roro on Jul 22, 2010 10:08:11 GMT
I am pleased to hear, it wouldn't of been right!
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;D
