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Post by mcl1974 on Jul 2, 2010 23:43:45 GMT
Absolute garbage!!!!!
Michael Mancienne - centre back - unbelieveable!!!
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Post by mark71 on Jul 2, 2010 23:44:34 GMT
Sky news mentioned Shawcross though!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 2, 2010 23:45:08 GMT
What was the squad they picked?
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Post by mcl1974 on Jul 2, 2010 23:48:26 GMT
hart
johnson dawson mancienne gibbs
milner rodwell wilshere johnson
walcott carroll
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 2, 2010 23:51:04 GMT
Cheers. Mancienne is a joke though. Even if they don't pick Shawcross, the likes of Cahill, Phil Jones and Jagielka are streets ahead of him.
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Post by mark71 on Jul 2, 2010 23:52:02 GMT
Cheers. Mancienne is a joke though. Even if they don't pick Shawcross, the likes of Cahill, Phil Jones and Jagielka are streets ahead of him. Agreed, it's just lazy journo's again.
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Post by mcl1974 on Jul 2, 2010 23:55:24 GMT
agree also but this attitude seems to hold sway with the fa too - today terry - tomorrow mancienne (as long as he stays on chelsea's books!)
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Post by scfcthepotters1863 on Jul 2, 2010 23:55:53 GMT
Aha what a pile of shit imo In so many aspects! That England side wouldn't get no where Internationally & Theo :L don't even get me started! Yes he can run bt the bloke would struggle to finish his weetabix never mind play along side or behind or In front of the Striker! What a Joke!!
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Post by One-Two on Jul 3, 2010 0:01:31 GMT
I guarantee, if Mancienne had actually been a Wolves player the last couple of seasons rather than being on loan from Chelsea, he wouldn't even make their bench Players like (especially) Michael Dawson and Gary Cahill are just streets ahead of him!
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Post by One-Two on Jul 3, 2010 0:02:42 GMT
Aha what a pile of shit imo In so many aspects! That England side wouldn't get no where Internationally & Theo :L don't even get me started! Yes he can run bt the bloke would struggle to finish his weetabix never mind play along side or behind or In front of the Striker! What a Joke!! Agree, without his pace, Walcott would struggle to ply his trade in league 1
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Post by mcl1974 on Jul 3, 2010 0:12:40 GMT
i feel the 'big club' attitide is rife in the fa unfortunately - how else can ryan's omission from successive u21 teams be explained or walcott's inclusion in the 2006 world cup squad - this is backed up by the media - man united's plumber has more chance of a call up than any promising youngster at a medium sized prem team such as stoke city - blaming foreigners or tiredness for england's failure is just nonsense
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2010 6:45:57 GMT
Mancienne is toss, how he ever got called up to a full england squad is a joke
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Post by cliffo23 on Jul 3, 2010 9:30:56 GMT
Walcott up front, they having a feckin laugh? Think people have forgotten about Matt Derbyshire who now plays for olympiakos, id rather have him up front than walcott!!
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Post by mosquito on Jul 3, 2010 9:38:49 GMT
hart johnson dawson mancienne gibbs milner rodwell wilshere johnson walcott carroll don't know who is our manager picking this squad, but sack him, lol. walcott did get a hatrick against croatia, which is more than you can say about any other england players of late and no Shawcross, your having a laff
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Post by PONTAFCE on Jul 3, 2010 9:39:30 GMT
Get walcott out the only thing he can do is run down the wing.He cant put a decent ball in or strike a ball.And dont start with but he scored a hat trick for england.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 3, 2010 9:44:21 GMT
I see they would still have us playing the dated 4-4-2 at international level, aint got a fucking clue especially with Mancienne, a player who struggled to break into the Wolves team last season
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Post by stokemark on Jul 3, 2010 9:55:13 GMT
Massive big club bias at play in the media
Notice Ryan is often forgotton or an ' afterthought' whenever a future England squad is discussed
When will these pricks ever learn ? Ever likely English football is fucked
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Post by stokingstokie on Jul 3, 2010 10:02:27 GMT
Hart Johnson Dawson Shawcross Cole SWP Milner Rodwell Johnson Defoe/Derbyshire Rooney
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Post by PickSCFC on Jul 3, 2010 10:09:09 GMT
i see sky have just gone with the big clubs shawcross and cahill are streets ahead of that defense
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Post by sgtpotter89 on Jul 3, 2010 10:11:18 GMT
hart johnson dawson mancienne gibbs milner rodwell wilshere johnson walcott carroll Glen Johnson? Mancienne? Walcott? and these are the opinions of so called experts? I take it they didn't see how shit Glen Johnson was in the World Cup, especially against Germany, and how really poor Mancienne has been in the prem and how Walcott is as overrated and overhyped as the rest of the current England team Fair enough on Rodwell, Wilshere, Adam Johnson. they are going to be real class players
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 3, 2010 10:11:35 GMT
I wish these journos coming up with 2014 teams would stop talking in terms of 4-4-2.
I think we've shown, conclusively, that the days of an old school 4-4-2 in these tournaments, against the best teams, are well and truly over.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 3, 2010 10:29:03 GMT
Hart Johnson Dawson Shawcross Cole SWP Milner Rodwell Johnson Defoe/ Derbyshire Rooney Derbyshire!, I hope your taking the piss and dont get me started on SWP, he aint good enough now and he's 28 so why should he be the future???
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 3, 2010 10:34:08 GMT
This Mancienne thing is quite amazing really, never has anyone so gash, been so highly rated by the English press. He's a fooking dwarf who can allegedly "play a bit" and I assume that is why the "we want England to play like Spain" hungry media are suggesting he is included. The funny thing is though that I suspect that come the next friendly in September, many of the 23 from South Africa will still be selected.
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Post by exharrysbarjim on Jul 3, 2010 13:09:59 GMT
Mancienne looks like the he/she off The Crying Game
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Post by knowles on Jul 3, 2010 13:13:53 GMT
Mancienne hasn't even played centre back for a year! Wolves play him in a defensive midfield role, with Berra and Craddock in defence.
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Post by evans1863 on Jul 3, 2010 13:17:05 GMT
442 works if you have 2 good full-backs, 2 good centre-halves, 2 good CMs, 2 good wide players that have balance and 2 good strikers who play together well.
I dont understand how people can say 442 is outdated
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