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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2010 10:19:08 GMT
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Post by luke45 on May 18, 2010 10:25:56 GMT
Quite suprised we've let Wedderburn go.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on May 18, 2010 10:28:18 GMT
Yes, Wedderburn is a surprise - current England U19 international, and with the new squad restrictions coming up - I was expecting that we would give him a new contract and then send him ort on loan.
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Post by ChrisEvans on May 18, 2010 10:32:25 GMT
This club really do puzzle me sometimes! A young lad with obvious potential and we let him go for nowt! He wouldn't have cost a lot on a new contract and be farmed out on loan to learn his skills in the lower league!
I have seen him a few times in the reserves and I have always been very impressed with him indeed, and as said above he is a current England U19 International!!!
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Post by mikeyb99 on May 18, 2010 10:32:30 GMT
I'm very disappointed Wedderburn has been released, I though we were expecting big things from him.
Will we ever see a youth player given a chance at Stoke under TP? Wilko and Dicko are the only ones to have even made the slightest impression, and you get the feeling that the latter is here on borrowed time despite our lack of alternative options in his position.
Not very forward-thinking is it really? Marshall and Moult to bite the dust next season? We might as well scrap all the youth and academy stuff and save ourselves some cash.
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Post by knowles on May 18, 2010 10:35:24 GMT
Danzelle?!!
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Post by Northy on May 18, 2010 10:36:02 GMT
Shame about wedderburn
and -
Academy players offered professional contracts - None
were any due to turn professional this time?
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 18, 2010 10:36:37 GMT
Of the players out on loan who are returning to Stoke, I can't see any one of them not being made available for transfer.
None of them would offer us anything so its time for them to move on.
Other than that there are no surrises on there. Amdy Faye will doa good job for a championship club or a team looking for promotion to the championship. I'd be very very surprsied to see him go to a Premier league club but the again sonko played at Hull this season (but we all know what happened to them)
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Post by dexter97 on May 18, 2010 10:39:56 GMT
So that's 31 professionals (32 if you count Danzelle), of whom five or six are under 21.
Am I right in thinking that the new rules for next season mean that we can have a maximum 25 players over the age of 21? Are "loaned-out" players included in that figure?
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Post by pushon on May 18, 2010 10:40:36 GMT
It looks as though some serious surgery is needed to get us down to the requisite squad size of 25 seniors for next season.
Tha'ts before we can even think about bringing in new talent.
Where's Dave when you need him?
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 18, 2010 10:43:42 GMT
yes but even we all know that there are at least 6 players who will definitely be leaving regardless of fees.
Beattie
Kitson
Griffin
Tonge
Sonko
To name but 5.
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 18, 2010 10:44:59 GMT
Of the players out on loan who are returning to Stoke, I can't see any one of them not being made available for transfer. None of them would offer us anything so its time for them to move on. Other than that there are no surrises on there. Amdy Faye will doa good job for a championship club or a team looking for promotion to the championship. I'd be very very surprsied to see him go to a Premier league club but the again sonko played at Hull this season (but we all know what happened to them) Shotton and Marshall are future SCFC stars |
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Post by thebet365 on May 18, 2010 10:48:18 GMT
So that's 31 professionals (32 if you count Danzelle), of whom five or six are under 21. Am I right in thinking that the new rules for next season mean that we can have a maximum 25 players over the age of 21? Are "loaned-out" players included in that figure? 25 players is the maximum that can be registered to play for us in the prem league, loaning a player out is fine. we can own as many as we want, but can only play the registered 25 players. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 18, 2010 10:51:29 GMT
Same as any other club in the Prem - I think this will be good for the Championship and Div 1 as it will hopefully stop all Prem teams having large squads and keeping bums on benches
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Post by RINGO STARR on May 18, 2010 10:52:07 GMT
So some players who we fail to sell we will just send out on season long loan deals (namely Shotton/ Davies/ Dicko etc)
I wouldn't be surprised to see us send out around 10 players on season long loan deals.
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Post by fca47 on May 18, 2010 11:32:09 GMT
They don't have to be loaned out or anything, they can play for the reserves, they just can't play in the first team squad if they are not in the 25.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 18, 2010 11:40:38 GMT
I don't get this new rule. Presumably the '25' can be altered at any time or is only relevant between August 31 and December 31st and then again between January 31st and the end of the season.......or am I being a thick cunt?
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Post by MrBigJobby on May 18, 2010 11:44:11 GMT
i believe it can only be changed in the windows
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Post by FullerMagic on May 18, 2010 11:44:27 GMT
Yeah. You've got to submit a new 25 after each transfer window, Sheikh.
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Post by BoxxyTheLost on May 18, 2010 11:44:54 GMT
I don't get this new rule. Presumably the '25' can be altered at any time or is only relevant between August 31 and December 31st and then again between January 31st and the end of the season.......or am I being a thick cunt? that's an interesting question... would the 25 have to be resubmitted after the january transfer window? |
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 18, 2010 11:48:26 GMT
Yeah. You've got to submit a new 25 after each transfer window, Sheikh. Cheers Fm. I'm still being a bit dumb though. Say we have 25 registered on the 31st December then on the 1st January Zigic finally gets his dream move. Does the 25 apply in the window, do we have to boot anyone out or can he not play until 1st feb? |
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Post by frodekippe on May 18, 2010 11:51:50 GMT
I don't get this new rule. Presumably the '25' can be altered at any time or is only relevant between August 31 and December 31st and then again between January 31st and the end of the season.......or am I being a thick cunt? The new rule is.... Premier League clubs must name a squad of 25 senior players who will be eligible to play in the league fixtures. Eight of this squad must be "home grown" (i.e. spent three years at a UK based club before the age of 21) The list of 25 players can only be changed DURING transfer windows, but can be changed an unlimited amount of times during these periods. The squad can be supplemented with an unlimited number of players under the age of 21. So basically we can only name 25 players over the age of 21, and 8 of these must be from the UK, but we can use as many young players as possible... not that we will. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 18, 2010 11:54:08 GMT
Good question. ;D news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/8530590.stmThe BBC's version of the rules states that - Changes to the squad list of 25 may be made during the period of a transfer window.
So presumably as soon as you hit January 1st, you can begin making ongoing modifications to the 25 on a one in-one out, signing-by-signing basis, until you hit Feb 1st and then you've got to stick with that compliant 25 for the rest of the season FrodeKippe's rules seem to confirm |
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on May 18, 2010 12:00:52 GMT
Its a disgrace the club hasn't produced ONE academy player worth offering a contract to. in fact over the latter years their record has been abysmal in producing players to step up.. with one or two exceptions. Time for a clear out and a rethink as with the ridiculous amounts being paid for and to players to ensure our long term future we need to start producing our own.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 18, 2010 12:02:02 GMT
Cheers Fellas. Seems confirmed then. Zigic will be available for our FA Cup 3rd round tie in 2011!
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Post by ColonelMustard on May 18, 2010 12:13:57 GMT
Its a disgrace the club hasn't produced ONE academy player worth offering a contract to. in fact over the latter years their record has been abysmal in producing players to step up.. with one or two exceptions. Time for a clear out and a rethink as with the ridiculous amounts being paid for and to players to ensure our long term future we need to start producing our own. There is no doubt that promotion to the prem has given the academy a difficult adjustment period. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2010 12:21:04 GMT
We offered Moult from the academy a contract so that's not strictly true. It's just that it was done a few months ago.
As for Wedderburn I'm surprised in the sense that he is still young and wouldn't take a place up in the squad. But I'm not surprised because I don't think he's that good.
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Post by salifdiao on May 18, 2010 15:02:01 GMT
seen him a few times and I agree he isn't good enough.
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Post by jarhead on May 18, 2010 17:37:35 GMT
Another kick in the balls to the academy lads.
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Post by jarhead on May 18, 2010 17:38:45 GMT
....at least the jobs for the boys get a new deal then pulis will be happy! ie Diao at 33 and toss! unbelievable!
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