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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 10, 2004 0:36:11 GMT
Hi Folks and welcome to: LOST THE PLOT This weeks undoubted winner of LTP is: Nottingham Forest. Ok so sacking Paul Hart may have been the right thing to do, maybe. There still strikes me as something going there. HOWEVER here is the rub: Joe Kinnear! Lets face it "Uncle" Joe needs a retirement home, that's why he's at fucking Luton isn't? So why have the Forest board "decided" he's the next Forest Fire? Instead of young and upwardly mobile Pearce/Clough combination That's right its because the forest board have: LOST THE PLOT. Well done indeed, well done, jolly good. And that's all this week folks. Spider
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ReggieRibs
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Post by ReggieRibs on Feb 10, 2004 0:52:53 GMT
Have to disagree, spider.
I think Joe Kinnear will do a decent job for Forest. He has done well at both his managerial posts with Wimbledon and Luton and left both positions for reasons other than football.
If Stoke were in need of a new manager I would be happy to take him.
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Post by tel2u on Feb 10, 2004 0:55:12 GMT
Forcing Hart to sell all his best players and still expecting him to improve on last season rather indicates that 'the plot' had been lost ages ago even before the season started, the Sheff Wednesday of the Midlands with out a doubt!
I feel sorry for Hart, it just illustrates just how bloody sanctimonious and egotistical, board directors are!, everyone's to blame except them!........yeah sure!
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2004 8:49:42 GMT
Tel,
Forest may have been forced to sell Harewood (Johnson broke his leg) but Hart was allowed to sign strikers Marlon King and Gareth Taylor for big money.
Hart cannot be considered completely blameless for a team that hasn't scored a single goal in seven games.
Smudge
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Post by Pricey on Feb 10, 2004 9:21:13 GMT
Yep, £1.4million for King (£900k) and Taylor (£500k), coupled with a run of form that has led to Forest looking like us from Rotherham away to Cardiff at home gave their board no other choice in my opinion.
If their run was at a similar time to ours Hart would have been given a chance to turn things around, but at this stage of the season it's make or break and he had to go.
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Post by tel2u on Feb 10, 2004 11:10:32 GMT
Martin
I'd forgotten about those two signings, but I'd been thinking not only of losing Johnson and Harewood, but also Prutton and Dawson (long term injury)
My sympathy doesn't go as far as wrist slitting or chaining myself to railings, but I think the board in this case should share some of the blame.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Feb 10, 2004 12:38:42 GMT
I agree Tel Reid is an exceptional talent who will go on to great things and Williams a central midfielder who I'd like to see at Stoke (fat chance). However, Des Walker and an ordinary Thompson make up their central defenders, King is an inferior player to Harewood and Taylor (although Stoke's nemesis on occasion) is crap. They may just scrape through but it's gonna be tough.
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Post by Davef on Feb 10, 2004 12:45:53 GMT
How about a special mention for Southampton, who, it seems, are on the verge of re-appointing Glenn Hoddle.
Hes not quite in the Cotterill 'Judas League', but even so, I can't see that going down very at St. Mary's can you?
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 10, 2004 12:49:14 GMT
No I can't Dave. If they lose three games on the trot he'll have loads of stick. Why would he want to go back anyway?
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 10, 2004 12:49:28 GMT
Southampton would have stole the LTP award if I had known about it last night. I bet they're happy about Hoddle returning!! You can disagree all you like Tel, unfortunately these are the words of a Forest fan sitting not too far away from me. Meanwhile I'm just luxuriating in my Tony Pulis world. Isn't it great to be smug! cheers Spider
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2004 13:12:27 GMT
Other than Harewood and Johnson (the latter still there but injured) - who at least have been replaced - Forest have only really lost Ricardo Scimeca, Jim Brennan and Jack Lester from last season
Strip them of Andy Reid and Michael Dawson (in the England squad last season) who knows what they'd be. Forest fan who I talk to seems to think it was Hart trying to pull off a diamond formation that fell to pieces when he lost Scimeca from midfield ???
Some are even touting Hart for the Blackpool job now should McMahon leave (played for them one time I think)
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Post by StuttgartStokie on Feb 10, 2004 13:42:48 GMT
Your best players being sold off or injured is no excuse! I mean I know a manager who had two sold off and lost at least two or three to injury and still got his team promoted. He also had to work with an awkward board. They sacked the bugger. ;D
Can see what I've done there!!??! Can of worms everywhere again ;D
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