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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 28, 2010 18:11:47 GMT
I agree with Mr red. To be honest at the time, I was far more aggrieved we were down to 10 than what happened to their young lad. If that makes me a tool, so be it. Football is hard, parochial and irrational.
If you have the same thoughts in the cold light of day after a game, that makes you a tool in my eyes, but some are so judgemental it's untrue.
Gutted for thelad, then I remember he'll earn more by the time he's 25 than I EVER will in my lifetime. He'll be back playing at the start of the season as long as there's no ligament damage.
By this time tomorrow, I'll have done a days work and the Arsenal match will be a memory and I'll be planning Chelsea, where I have no doubts there will be some anti-Terrt/Cole songs.
Any wallflowers shouldn't be heading to Stamford Bridge next Sunday, should they? I for one am looking forward to letting Terry know exactly what I think of him.
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Post by lew86 on Feb 28, 2010 18:20:05 GMT
I agree with Mr red. To be honest at the time, I was far more aggrieved we were down to 10 than what happened to their young lad. If that makes me a tool, so be it. Football is hard, parochial and irrational. If you have the same thoughts in the cold light of day after a game, that makes you a tool in my eyes, but some are so judgemental it's untrue. Gutted for thelad, then I remember he'll earn more by the time he's 25 than I EVER will in my lifetime. He'll be back playing at the start of the season as long as there's no ligament damage. By this time tomorrow, I'll have done a days work and the Arsenal match will be a memory and I'll be planning Chelsea, where I have no doubts there will be some anti-Terrt/Cole songs. Any wallflowers shouldn't be heading to Stamford Bridge next Sunday, should they? I for one am looking forward to letting Terry know exactly what I think of him. Exactally mate, the few minutes around and after the tackle, I thought how low we are looking in defense, what twatbags Campbell and Fabregas were acting, and how it would affect our game, probably some similar thoughts after the spurs player got strechered off last season. But of course, its much easier to perk up and moan from the comfort of your computer. I don't understand why so many people feel aggrieved by it. |
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Post by stone6 on Feb 28, 2010 18:23:18 GMT
So easy to take the moral high ground here. I'm not condoning the chanting that went on yesterday but everyone who's posted on here demanding these people be banned can you honestly say you've never sang a song like who's that dying on the runway, 10 German bombers at an England game? What's the point anyway Whelan's actions after the incident didn't even warrant a thankyou from anyone from Arsenal FC which in itself is more of a disgrace than anything else surrounding this incident.
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Post by bigtommyscfc on Feb 28, 2010 19:05:04 GMT
When everyone says i hope the people chantin are banned it will never happen. All the people singing the Adebayour song (which is far worse) didn't get ejected or banned. It was just people acting on the spur of the moment just joining in or people who were pissed out of their heads who thought it would be funny. I don't like it but as many people have said it's a football ground not the ballet you can never stop people singing.
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 28, 2010 19:06:52 GMT
I don't like it but as many people have said it's a football ground not the ballet you can never stop people singing. Well, maybe... but by that logic monkey chants would probably still be acceptable... |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 28, 2010 19:47:51 GMT
no sal, that's wide of the mark as you know.
That's racism, way different from insensitivity. I feel for Ramsey, but this is a joke now. Hundreds of posts about football supporters singing a song against the opposition. I fully expect some to start clapping when they score from now on.
From what I saw and heard those Stokies chanting were doing so more in outrage at Arsenal's reaction and the red card than to actually have a go at Ramsay, as I don't think anyone wants to see anyone in jured.
My brother has texted me cancer jokes whilst his daughter lay upstairs with leukemia. Human nature and peoples way of getting through things. I fully expect the righteous few on here never to break the speed limit or park on double yellows etc.
Moral outrage at a chant that was insensitive at worst. Moronic? get a grip ffs!
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Post by rambo61 on Feb 28, 2010 20:00:51 GMT
Personally I clapped the lad off yesterday but after hearing the french wanker later I can understand the people who took the piss!I find what wanker said more abusive than anything the stoke fans did in the "heat" of the moment!!!  |
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Feb 28, 2010 20:15:01 GMT
Personally I clapped the lad off yesterday but after hearing the french wanker later I can understand the people who took the piss!I find what wanker said more abusive than anything the stoke fans did in the "heat" of the moment!!! Spot on mate |
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Post by beale08 on Feb 28, 2010 20:24:36 GMT
if the people who were singing the song (including me, even if i am a tool for singing it) should be banned then so should the arsenal fans that threw coins and tried to push past the stewards... and as mentioned before its a bloody football ground not a classical concert, if you don't expect a bit of banter/racism/swearing then i say stop going to the match, i am not saying that i agree with racism, but i don't get suprised or anything when i hear it... for people saying the southstand is full of mindless, sick minded chavs, i will tell you that we get just as mch stick/racism/swearing from all away fans, absolutely every away team i have experienced, some sort of abuse whether it be a wanker sign or somebody shouting insults, it is part of the game... it isn't going away, like it or lump it, you find yourself just reacting in the heat of the moment, i have dished out my fair share of abusive signs and chants, i am not saying it was the right thing to do, but believe me when someone calls you a name, whatever it may be, it is only natural to react to something when you feel threatened, i absolutely love the banter from the southstand and i don't care what you say about it! RANT OVER
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Post by meirstoke on Feb 28, 2010 20:36:01 GMT
i applauded the lad of so their  |
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Feb 28, 2010 20:46:57 GMT
So easy to take the moral high ground here. I'm not condoning the chanting that went on yesterday but everyone who's posted on here demanding these people be banned can you honestly say you've never sang a song like who's that dying on the runway, 10 German bombers at an England game? What's the point anyway Whelan's actions after the incident didn't even warrant a thankyou from anyone from Arsenal FC which in itself is more of a disgrace than anything else surrounding this incident. I agree with that mate particularly about Whelan. No mention of that at all. What Whelan did in caring for a fellow professional is worthy of more comment than its got. For a team full of "thugs" as Arsene would have it, it was out of context wouldnt you think. In fact no other Arsenal player but Bendtner had the guts or interest to care for the player. |
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Post by salopstick on Feb 28, 2010 20:50:31 GMT
So easy to take the moral high ground here. I'm not condoning the chanting that went on yesterday but everyone who's posted on here demanding these people be banned can you honestly say you've never sang a song like who's that dying on the runway, 10 German bombers at an England game? What's the point anyway Whelan's actions after the incident didn't even warrant a thankyou from anyone from Arsenal FC which in itself is more of a disgrace than anything else surrounding this incident. I agree with that mate particularly about Whelan. No mention of that at all. What Whelan did in caring for a fellow professional is worthy of more comment than its got. For a team full of "thugs" as Arsene would have it, it was out of context wouldnt you think. In fact no other Arsenal player but Bendtner had the guts or interest to care for the player. only because whelan gripped him |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 28, 2010 20:51:20 GMT
I wrote in the mag re Shawcross' attitude towards Alan Wiley last week after his goal was chalked off.
Yet again, Stoke City players acted superbly yesterday. Shame the same conna be said for snide Fabregas whose actions towards our manager were an absolute disgrace.
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Post by trigger on Feb 28, 2010 21:19:01 GMT
Or the 100 or so Arsenal fans who tried to get at Shawcross, one of which was dragged over the advertising boards by the stewards for his attempt to get at Shawcross.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2010 21:25:15 GMT
Or the 100 or so Arsenal fans who tried to get at Shawcross, one of which was dragged over the advertising boards by the stewards for his attempt to get at Shawcross. They were trying to get across the netting as well. Coins were hurled but no-one wanted to take any action. The chanting was wrong but for fucks sake tensions were high. Let it lie. |
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Post by spangle on Mar 1, 2010 20:37:14 GMT
Never felt so ashamed at a football match in all my life, people around them know who they are, shop the Bastards and hope the club bans um, better still fuck um off to Afghanistan.
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Post by bunnyscfc on Mar 1, 2010 21:12:28 GMT
shop them for what? Non-racist chanting? Non-homophobic chanting?
Who made you god? Never felt so ashamed? I trust you weren't around two or three decades ago? Did you join in the whole ground singing about Adebayor's mates dying. That offends me far more than Saturday. Or how about the anti-gay posts about Sol Campbell?
Christ, the singing was insensitive, but hardly a reason for a ban or sending them to war was it?
Don't go Sunday mate as I'm sure there will be anti-Terry and Cole songs too. And I'd hazard a guess there will be anti-Man U songs last game of the season too.
I agree the singing was heartless, but many supporters were so wound up about the stupid red card that everyone makes errors of judgement. I'm not castigating anyone, as I've done some stupid things in my life. But I'm glad for those spotless Stokies who have never done owt wrong or immoral who can so easily judge others.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 1, 2010 21:14:23 GMT
i wish ramsey all the best
i also laughed hysterically when i recieved an aaron ramsey text
two different things im afraid
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