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Post by mumf14 on Mar 2, 2008 23:44:04 GMT
Following our last two results do you still think we will achieve automatic promotion or has the bubble burst..? As usual I'll start.... Yes. (But we need to play two goalscorers up front....  |
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Post by tawafij70 on Mar 2, 2008 23:45:43 GMT
Yes , we will be fine when Nugent arrives
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Post by kidsgrovepotter on Mar 2, 2008 23:45:47 GMT
yes!!!! i know we will trust me |
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 2, 2008 23:46:46 GMT
Yes
36 games on and we deserve it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2008 23:57:00 GMT
no
Sorry fellow Stokies, we're letting FAR too many goals in
we've all bigged up Cort & Shawcross but they aren't as good as we think
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Post by scfcham on Mar 3, 2008 0:00:28 GMT
it all hangs on the next few games,
if we can halt this slide, beat burnley and get a result down at watford, i think we have every chance
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Post by kinnell on Mar 3, 2008 0:00:42 GMT
Heart says auto. Head says playoffs. Don't think Pulis will EVER concede that Gally is a better option than Mama.
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Post by powchirper on Mar 3, 2008 0:05:04 GMT
If Gally starts our next few matches then yes, if not then no.
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 3, 2008 0:06:46 GMT
O.k... Honest opinions throughout....
What about the next two games..?
I think on our present form 3pts would be good...
What about you>?
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Post by powchirper on Mar 3, 2008 0:14:14 GMT
To be honest i thought we would get at least a point at Preston and nowt at qpr so am not that down hearted at the mo,the next two games could make or break our season and would be over the moon with 4pts.
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 3, 2008 0:35:00 GMT
The last two games were difficult...the next two games even more so...3pts would do me.!!
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Post by scfclifer on Mar 3, 2008 0:38:45 GMT
yes we can go up auto we still got play brizzle and watford so i aint that worried at the moment i just wish we could have top 10 teams in our last games???
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 0:39:06 GMT
4 points necessery
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Post by samstoke on Mar 3, 2008 1:37:27 GMT
Honest opinion, no. We concede far too many really sloppy goals and actually have one of the worst defensive records in the Championship. I said it while we were winning, realistically we can't expect to be able to score three goals every game and that sooner or later we'll go through a drier patch in front of goal and unless we can tighten up at the back it's going to start costing us. Unfortunately the chickens have come home to roost and that time is now   Our only hope now for automatic in my opinion is if Pulis drops Cort NOW (I think he's a huge defensive liability, backs off too much doesn't keep tight to his man and the number of goals his presence in the team costs outweighs the goals he scores) and Riggott comes in and instantly makes a huge difference. Also Griffin needs to be switched to left back, with Wilko or possibly even Delap going to right back. Pugh needs to be dropped, or moved to central midfield if Delap drops into right back. Unfortunately though, I can't see Pulis having the balls to drop a £1.2m player  |
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Post by luke45 on Mar 3, 2008 9:41:54 GMT
Yes.
Gooaarrnnnn Stoke
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Post by barndoorbanjo on Mar 3, 2008 9:50:39 GMT
YES!
but we need to tighten up at the back.
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Post by u2oxeterstokie on Mar 3, 2008 9:56:54 GMT
Sorry but it's a no from me. Defence is looking weak and our attack even weaker!
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Post by leeklad on Mar 3, 2008 10:05:16 GMT
gally fuller nugent!i say yes
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Post by PONTAFCE on Mar 3, 2008 10:07:29 GMT
As much as i would love us to go up i can honestly say that we wont.We will get in the play-offs and fuck it up.
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Post by mumf14 on Mar 3, 2008 10:25:13 GMT
The thought of the play-offs is a definate no no...
We should concentrate on automatic promotion and nothing else.The whole side is under performing at the moment .....Pulis needs to shake them up a bit.
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Post by PONTAFCE on Mar 3, 2008 10:29:32 GMT
gotta agree with you mumf the defence was shocking yet again and pulis really needs to give them a good kick up the arse.
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Post by ruts66 on Mar 3, 2008 10:48:06 GMT
A CONVINCING win on Saturday and a good point at Watford, Yes
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Post by troj on Mar 3, 2008 10:59:56 GMT
Not sure at the mo' - Saturday is a must win (from a confidence perspective). If we don't win I think we'll have major probs next week Norwich and Watford.
Look at it like this, and yes I know its negative...but if we did lose Saturday there's every chance we'd lose the next two as well .... or put it more succinctly lose five on the trot .....:-(
However, knowing Stoke we'll lose Saturday and then go and beat Norwich and Watford.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 3, 2008 11:06:25 GMT
we should limp into the playoffs.....but wouldn't fancy our chances.Quick passing sides will expose us
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Post by jezzascfc on Mar 3, 2008 11:29:14 GMT
When this question was asked just after we hit top spot, I said play-offs as we were leaking too many soft goals and it would eventually catch up with us.
Two weeks on, we are still doing so and it has caught up with us: ergo, play-offs.
We need 7/8 wins out of 10 to get into the top two IMHO - I'd love us to do so, but just can't see it on present form.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Mar 3, 2008 11:36:25 GMT
Yes, we can still achieve promotion either automatic or via the play-off's, but we have simply got to find a way of stopping the hemmoraging of goals and the best way to do that is stop playing a midfielder (Pugh) at full back, play BOTH Wilkinson and Dickenson in the full back positions (those lads would die for the cause), give Leon of Ryan a rest and bring in Riggott.
Delap will surely take over from Salif for the forseeable future AND mamma needs to be sidelined to be replaced by Gally or Nugent if we do sign him.
My team would be -
Simmo,
Wilkinson, Shawcross or Cort, Riggott, Dickenson,
Lawrence, Whelen, Delap, Pugh,
Fuller, Gally or Nugent.
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Post by potter84 on Mar 3, 2008 11:39:47 GMT
YES YES YES YES YES............WE ARE GOING UP SAY WE ARE GOIN UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2008 11:41:01 GMT
not a chance UNLESS we sort the defence out
we need dicko or griffin at left back and wilko at right back - did someone mention on here that riggots can play right back?
offensively we have enough in the locker to compete
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Post by stokemark on Mar 3, 2008 11:42:23 GMT
No for me though I always adopt the old adage of 'Prepare for the worst, hope for the best' with Stoke. We seem to lack a bit of character in the team at the moment, lack the wise old head who's been there, done it and seen it all before.
Truly hope Im wrong
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Post by actionjackson on Mar 3, 2008 11:42:34 GMT
wheres all the nugent talk coming from or is it just a rumour? hope not,would be a good signing.
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